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@  wonko the sane? : (28 October 2020 - 08:03 AM)

Twilight zone. Duh.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 October 2020 - 07:52 AM)

Um.... what did I log in on...

@  Paladin : (28 October 2020 - 06:17 AM)

have they actually gotten worse than the one where Homer gets paralyzed by a spider and has to learn to communicate through his farts?

@  unluckiness : (28 October 2020 - 05:53 AM)

It's only fitting that SImpsons have halloween specials since it's been a shambling corpse of its former self since its teens.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 04:12 AM)

No I caught one of the latest one with parodies of Stranger Things which admittedly is horror series but Heaven Can Wait and The Shape of Water are Fantasy films. Plus implications of the characters being sociopaths or twisted has become a norm these days.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

Which probably adds to the "reasons they should just stop making more of The Simpsons" pile.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 October 2020 - 02:58 AM)

You make it sound like The Simpsons becoming less repetitive is a bad thing.

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 October 2020 - 02:48 AM)

Remember when Simpsons Halloween specials parodied horror movies and would have the characters make off out of character remarks like "we chucked donuts at a old man for kicks."? they don't and can't do that any more.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 08:00 PM)

Tired of the same old Halloween stuff? Check out Tubi. The depths of the schlock available is astounding.

@  Donocropolis : (27 October 2020 - 11:51 AM)

Not sure if it's news or not, but I'm at Ross right now and they have Masterpiece Movie Ironhide for $24.99

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 October 2020 - 12:45 AM)

Final Fantasy 7 Remake’s Best Buy exclusive deluxe version is available for $10 as one of today’s daily deals

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 October 2020 - 08:50 PM)

We can play the "Is it a real headline or an Onion headline" game.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 October 2020 - 08:22 PM)

It's weird to see how much of Larry Hama's "satire" from the old GI Joe comic has no longer become satire in the past few years.

@  Maximus Ambus : (26 October 2020 - 11:29 AM)

Funny how 2020 gave me new appreciation for Dawn of the Dead 1978.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 07:43 PM)

@Fenix Twilight Sure. Just not a good one.

@  Fenix Twilight : (25 October 2020 - 04:02 PM)

@Sukoshiko Well his clothes left an impression on you didn't they?

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 October 2020 - 06:09 AM)

I just read "Tesla Cybertruck" like AC/DC's "Thunderstruck", now it won't get out of my head, so I inflict it on all of you as well.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Tesla Cybertruck: amazing or just silly looking? I can't decide.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:24 AM)

Weird question: I had to deal with a guy today... I'm not exactly up on modern fashions... or even archaic fashions... But this guy... Tuxedo Jacket and shirt, studs in all the button holes except the bottom one, blue jeans, and cowboy boots... Take a moment to imagine that get up. And this was to a business meeting, trying to impress someone. What look is that? Who on earth would dress that way? (I mean on purpose)

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:04 PM)

I think the few up here were lost to bad placement, poor weather, and the usual language trap.

@  TM2-Megatron : (24 October 2020 - 04:25 PM)

There are 5 spread around southwestern Ontario, all run by the same company. I've only been to the one in my area, but it seems to do good business even in non-pandemic times. On long weekends, when they do triple features, there's a normally a lineup to get in Friday and Saturday nights

@  Telly : (24 October 2020 - 01:51 PM)

there been one outside of my town for as long as ive been alive at least. its gone through its share of owners and periods of being closed down, but its been open for the past decade at least

@  Otaku : (24 October 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Bias from personal experience, but drive-in theaters are nearly extinct.  I grew up near one but it went out of business in the late 80s, and was torn down and replaced with some other business by the early 90s.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Out here, I mean. Couldn't comment on their popularity in place where they actually exist.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:44 AM)

I wouldn't know. They've only come back into vogue with the social distancing from the plague, and while some places have made an effort to shoestring the places together, it's all largely too distant to be accessible.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:46 PM)

I'd hate to see ours replaced by condos. They're a great way to spend an evening, whether with family or on a date. And they've never been as common in Canada as the US, so we cna't afford to lose as many

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:45 PM)

Largely they were either poorly placed or bought out and torn down to be replaced by something other than over priced short term parking. Mostly condos.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:14 PM)

I guess your winters are worse, so they have a shorter operating season. Drive-ins in the Toronto area can usually operate until early or mid-December; maybe even into early January if there's no real snowfall, and open up again sometime in March.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:13 PM)

THere's really only 1 left in the entire province?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Ha! It's probably faster for me to drive to your drive in than to make my way to the only one left in quebec.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Fortunately we still have a drive-in theatre that's exempt from the closures about a 10 minute drive away

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Theatres around here are closed again for at least another couple weeks (wouldn't be surprised if it's extended by another month or so, either), but that's what they've been doing here as well. Playing the old classics

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 October 2020 - 02:36 PM)

I got Earthrise Megatron, he's better then I thought he'd be though Netflix Megatron is still tops.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:44 AM)

The original Rocky movie is also showing. May go next weekend. That’s how you get people back in the theatres - show the old classics every adult loves.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 10:35 AM)

They did a limited run showing of it up here too, back when the theaters were open... red zones suck.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:13 AM)

The original Back To The Future is showing in the Odeon in the UK now. I think I will go see it tomorrow.

@  Donocropolis : (23 October 2020 - 05:51 AM)

It was either the Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Can't remember the colors.

@  Kalidor : (22 October 2020 - 06:43 PM)

What did it look like?

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 01:34 PM)

I swear I remember getting the Happymeal G1 minibot as a child, but I live 2.5 hours from St. Louis, which is the only place they apparently came out. It's possible that I got it on a family vacation, though, as we went to Six Flags pretty often.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 October 2020 - 01:07 PM)

Conversely, I had the Gobot helicopter from Wendy's and I was absolutely convinced it was an actual Transformer.

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 08:13 AM)

I used to rubber-band Hot-Wheels style construction vehicles together and pretend it was Devestator.

@  Bass X0 : (21 October 2020 - 05:26 PM)

When I was about four years old, my parents bought me Bugbite and tried to tell me it was Bumblebee. I was not yet a fan of Transformers, but I knew that wasn't Bumblebee. I didn't even have the real Bumblebee at that time.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 01:39 PM)

It would come with two soundtracks: the eighties classic and one featuring dubstep and the VAs are popular Youtubers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 12:13 PM)

But yeah, reading it: I came off as a bit of an ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:52 AM)

I just couldn't think of worse music than disco...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 11:35 AM)

What were you trying to imply with the mocking sarcasm, though? Nobody suggested that '80s music was any more "of it's time" than '70s music.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:18 AM)

I said that disco wouldn't fare much better with the same context: media is property of it's time; biases, culture and limitations are all inherent in that. Some stuff can be brought forward because of an inherently timeless nature or the simplicity with which it was made but lots of media is a time capsule of the period of when it was made.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 08:46 AM)

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, or what you even think I said.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 08:11 AM)

Yeah, cause disco would make the transition so much better...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 07:17 AM)

I feel the '80s music would be jarring when running over current-day CGI instead of well, '80s visuals.


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Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

It's probably just a nod to the comics and means nothing beyond a few shots of the thing.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:52 PM


Yeah... they've already supposedly cast 2 nobodies as 2 Z-list Marvel Comics Presents quality techno-villians, both with ties to the Army/Government IIRC. Now this. It can't be Osborne of course. Or John Jameson. Or any of the obvious guesses...

I know they're doing "Extremis" but this casting feels like they're doing a "nobody villian" take on Armor Wars instead...

Iron Man has a decent rogues gallery. Wish they were mining it rather than the 5cent bin at a flee market.


-ZacWilliam, also not against Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin, but being Chinese is kinda who the Mandarin is. I mean his name IS "the Mandarin". Maybe Kingsley's character really likes oranges?
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 30 2012, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Iron Man has a decent rogues gallery.


He really doesn't. It's probably the worst rogue's gallery of any high-profile comic book character. I can't blame them for struggling to pick good ones for the films. Iron Monger was a smart first-movie choice, but as modified as Whiplash was for the second movie, literally any of his armour-using baddies could have slotted into that role. I swear to CHRIST Ben Kingsley had better be the Mandarin - I could give less than two jives about ethnicity at this point, because not using his arch-bastarding-enemy after actively planting the seeds for him in the first film is like doing a Superman trilogy without Lex Luthor.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:04 PM


Is it wrong that I REALLY want him to have 10 Alien Power Rings?

I know there's almost no change. I know it'd be REALLY hard to make them work in Iron Man's more grounded techno corner of the MFU (Marvel Film Universe) but STILL... I'd just really like a Mandarin who WAS the Mandarin power-wise. AND I'd love someone for Tony to fight that wasn't another dude in an armor suit.


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#6 Chris McFeely

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:08 PM

I think after Avengers the universe is suitably opened up enough for the rings to be alien, and if it were just the Mandarin alone I don't think it'd cause much issue. But with all the other techno-powered characters this film seems to be heaping on (which can't surely be anything other than a "they stole my designs!" Armour Wars riff) it'd certainly come off as out of place that their boss is using alien tech.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ May 30 2012, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 30 2012, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Iron Man has a decent rogues gallery.


He really doesn't.


I disagree.

He's not Batman, Spider-man, or the Flash, with their great Enemy galleries, no. But niether is he Superman.

He's got, off the top of my head:

Mandarin
Whiplash
Blizzard
Cyclone
The Ghost
Fin-Fang-Foom
Crimson Dynamo
Titanium Man
Modok
Aim
Madam Mask
Radioactive Man

That's just the one's I could think of without looking anything up. It's definately decent fodder for a number of films.


-ZacWilliam, And while there's a bunch of "techno" there very few are Just another guy in a generic steel grey robo-suite.

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#8 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:13 PM

Seeing Batman hyphenated is really, really weird.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

AIM and MODOK would be really good film material. A terrorist group focused on super sciences is right up Iron Man's alley for these movies, plenty of material for special effect fights with any number of super weapons or other tech they've stole or devolped, before revealing their greatest creation: MODOK a human super computer that can easily out think anyone with access to tech that would give anyone trouble in straight fight.

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#10 Chris McFeely

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 30 2012, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mandarin
Whiplash
Blizzard
Cyclone
The Ghost
Fin-Fang-Foom
Crimson Dynamo
Titanium Man
Radioactive Man
Modok
Aim
Madam Mask

That's just the one's I could think of without looking anything up. It's definately decent fodder for a number of films.


Radioactive Man's a Thor baddie and I think you're thinking of someone else when you say Cyclone. But look at how many of those villains are "grunt"-level. Almost none of them are movie-carriers. Mandarin, AIM, and *maybe* Madame Masque could hack it, but the rest are on a level that are going to require them to share the movie with at least one other guy in order to sell it (even Triple-F would have to share with the Mandarin to work in a story in any disbelief-suspending way), like Whiplash had to share with Justin Hammer to make the grade. "The guy with the freeze rays" can carry 22 pages, or 22mins of cartoon, but he's not a movie mastermind. Now, you get me Spymaster, and you kit him out with a couple of B-list Iron Man baddies as his goon squad destroying Stark's life from all sides, then we'll be getting somewhere.

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QUOTE(DrSpengler @ May 30 2012, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ May 30 2012, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think after Avengers the universe is suitably opened up enough for the rings to be alien, and if it were just the Mandarin alone I don't think it'd cause much issue. But with all the other techno-powered characters this film seems to be heaping on (which can't surely be anything other than a "they stole my designs!" Armour Wars riff) it'd certainly come off as out of place that their boss is using alien tech.


Personally, I'd dig an Armor Wars movie, truncated as it might be.

It's not like he fought many A-listers in that story, anyway. I mean, the Beetle? Really? Some nobody like "Coldblood" is about on that level. And Iron Man 2, having the War Machine suit handed over to the army, sort of set up an Armor Wars scenario with Tony's designs being liberated for abuse.


Nah, Beetle is C list, but he's a long time Spidey villian and Thunderbolts founder that's way above a Z-list, even hardcore fans never heard of him, guy like Coldblood.

But I agree, I would have been much more on board with this film being inspired by Armor Wars than Extremis.


-ZacWilliam, almost feels they picked it because it was the "cool modern Warren Ellis thing" rather than because it was a really good basis for an Ironman film...
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:38 PM

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I was more diappointed that they decided to basically make him Crimson Dynamo but didn't make him Crimson Dynamo. And now they can't use Crimson Dynamo. Booooooo!


There was plenty of time between activation of the bomb and detonation for Vanko to slip away. Not to mention, nothing stated implied his suit was rigged to blow and it wasn't just the Hammeroids.

Simply put, in these actual Marvel backed movies, unless we actually see the body, I'm not counting anyone as officially dead. As an aside, as much as I adored the first Iron Man film, the failure to have Stane perform his iconic suicide was extremely disappointing. I mean, yeah, on-screen suicide would have been a bit much and they at least gave us the fact Stane needed computer assistance to run the suit, but it was a huge let down just to have him be knocked unconscious and fall into the Reactor.

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Betcha they'd just do what the Nickelodeon cartoon did with them; make Blizzard and Ghost guys in armor suits.


Um...Ghost and Blizzard always were tech-villains. They've always been in armor, it's just that in comics, armor often looks like spandex.


Speaking of Ghost, I'm disappointed. If they're still squeamish to be using the Mandarin, then go with Ghost and the Spymaster instead. Strikes me you could easily use the Extremis plot with those two, without having to tie in Mandarin.

Speaking of the Mandarin, and speaking as a long time Iron Man fan, I hope he doesn't show up in the films. Mandarin is Iron Man's iconic villain...but his motivations are hopelessly undefined. If he isn't trying to conquer China with Missiles and Dragon God-Aliens, he's trying to destroy technology and pave way for a world of magic...except when he's using technology to create a giant sky dragon red herring for some convoluted rationale to pass the Rings to his son for awhile...only to re-emerge as a businessman? (I don't know. I stopped reading Iron Man when he killed a boat load of people and was saved by a literal angel)

Seriously. Joker has a MO. Lex Luthor has a MO. Mandarin started as a semi-racist caricature in the vein of the Yellow Claw that has managed to endure longer then memory of Christopher Lee's portrayal of Fu Manchu all the while his entire character is constantly overhauled and altered with every appearance he makes.

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QUOTE(Rust @ May 30 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As an aside, as much as I adored the first Iron Man film, the failure to have Stane perform his iconic suicide was extremely disappointing. I mean, yeah, on-screen suicide would have been a bit much and they at least gave us the fact Stane needed computer assistance to run the suit, but it was a huge let down just to have him be knocked unconscious and fall into the Reactor.


You may know this, but an alternate version of that scene included on the DVD has him preparing to commit suicide so he can take Tony with him.

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Speaking of the Mandarin, and speaking as a long time Iron Man fan, I hope he doesn't show up in the films. Mandarin is Iron Man's iconic villain...but his motivations are hopelessly undefined.


Well, wouldn't his appearing in a film allow his motives to be untangled and defined better? It would probably give the comics character a real shot in the arm in the process and help redefine him going forward.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ May 30 2012, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(DrSpengler @ May 30 2012, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was more diappointed that they decided to basically make him Crimson Dynamo but didn't make him Crimson Dynamo. And now they can't use Crimson Dynamo. Booooooo!


There was plenty of time between activation of the bomb and detonation for Vanko to slip away. Not to mention, nothing stated implied his suit was rigged to blow and it wasn't just the Hammeroids.

Simply put, in these actual Marvel backed movies, unless we actually see the body, I'm not counting anyone as officially dead. As an aside, as much as I adored the first Iron Man film, the failure to have Stane perform his iconic suicide was extremely disappointing. I mean, yeah, on-screen suicide would have been a bit much and they at least gave us the fact Stane needed computer assistance to run the suit, but it was a huge let down just to have him be knocked unconscious and fall into the Reactor.

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Betcha they'd just do what the Nickelodeon cartoon did with them; make Blizzard and Ghost guys in armor suits.


Um...Ghost and Blizzard always were tech-villains. They've always been in armor, it's just that in comics, armor often looks like spandex.


Speaking of Ghost, I'm disappointed. If they're still squeamish to be using the Mandarin, then go with Ghost and the Spymaster instead. Strikes me you could easily use the Extremis plot with those two, without having to tie in Mandarin.

Speaking of the Mandarin, and speaking as a long time Iron Man fan, I hope he doesn't show up in the films. Mandarin is Iron Man's iconic villain...but his motivations are hopelessly undefined. If he isn't trying to conquer China with Missiles and Dragon God-Aliens, he's trying to destroy technology and pave way for a world of magic...except when he's using technology to create a giant sky dragon red herring for some convoluted rationale to pass the Rings to his son for awhile...only to re-emerge as a businessman? (I don't know. I stopped reading Iron Man when he killed a boat load of people and was saved by a literal angel)

Seriously. Joker has a MO. Lex Luthor has a MO. Mandarin started as a semi-racist caricature in the vein of the Yellow Claw that has managed to endure longer then memory of Christopher Lee's portrayal of Fu Manchu all the while his entire character is constantly overhauled and altered with every appearance he makes.


Actually, that kinda why I think he SHOULD appear. The movies bring in a new audence, and when things really work they get incorporated into the comics. So maybe if we get a movie Mandarin, we will get something that finally and definatively sticks with him, if they do a good job with him.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ May 30 2012, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You may know this, but an alternate version of that scene included on the DVD has him preparing to commit suicide so he can take Tony with him.


I honestly didn't. As much as I loved the movie, I actually only ever did see it in theaters. I retract that previous statement then - if a shot was filmed invoking that scene, I've got no bone to pick.

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Well, wouldn't his appearing in a film allow his motives to be untangled and defined better? It would probably give the comics character a real shot in the arm in the process and help redefine him going forward.


Why bother though? Yes a total re-invention would probably help the character, but like I said his motives already bounce around like a ping pong ball. There's no guarantee a totally fresh take on the Mandarin would stick - I mean, the dude was part dragon in the 90s. They've tried this before. Mandarin is one of those characters that is often used but is only what the story calls for, never a driver of the story.

His Heroes Return debut was a prime example of this. A year's worth of build up and hints all culminating in a fight over Russia in a giant mechanical sky dragon. With Tony half dead in order to make it even a fight. And then Mandarin doesn't even do anything except be shot out of the sky.

That was the story that convinced me the Mandarin just isn't villain material. He's the go-to Plot Device when a story falls to pieces or they just need filler. If I want Tony to match wits with a evil genius, I'll stick to his tussles with Doctor Doom.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:15 PM

The Mandarin is ALWAYS gonna be Ironman's top villian though. Like Doom (who they don't have the rights to for the MFU and probably wont in the foreseeable future) will always be the top match of the FF and the Red Skull of Cap. That's not going away at this point, and so HE's not.

So if he's always gonna be there, as the Arch-Foe OR as the unspoken Elephant in the room (with everyone constantly asking "When they gonna do the Mandarin?") then why NOT try to turn him into a good actual match for Tony. If he's been a poor arch-foe in the past then remold him into a foe who WOULD BE a great arch foe. That makes perfect sense to me, if you have a writter who is up to it. And if it worked in the film really well it certainly would be sucked back into the books I think.

-ZacWilliam, if we can get Colson and Samuel L Fury in the 616 a sucessful movie Mandarin could certainly cross over.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ May 30 2012, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Mandarin is ALWAYS gonna be Ironman's top villian though. Like Doom (who they don't have the rights to for the MFU and probably wont in the foreseeable future) will always be the top match of the FF and the Res Skull of Cap. That's not going away at this point, and so HE's not.

So if he's always gonna be there, as the Arch-Foe OR as the unspoken Elephant in the room (with everyone constantly asking "When they gonna do the Mandarin?") then why NOT try to turn him into a good actual match for Tony. If he's been a poor arch-foe in the past then remold him into a foe who WOULD BE a great arch foe. That makes perfect sense to me, if you have a writter who is up to it. And if it worked in the film really well it certainly would be sucked back into the books I think.

-ZacWilliam, if we can get Colson and Samuel L Fury in the 616 a sucessful movie Mandarin could certainly cross over.


You know, maybe they could make Mandarin into their Doom, since as Zac says we may NEVER see Doom in the MFV. As even epoxy of Doom is better then what they usually do with him. They're going to need more large scale villains; And they can't use Osborn or Doom which already removes about half the potential big players they can use. So best to use the guy they is always reinvented, to kill two birds with one stone. A successful movie intervention will reinvigorate the character becuase Movies are so high profile that they trump about everything when done right, and it gives them someone other then Loki to be a big player on the villain scale.

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#19 Bainreese

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE(Big Show @ May 30 2012, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TOTALLY sweet spoiler that's visible on the General Discussion page. Thanks!


My apologies. I changed it.

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#20 Big Show

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(Bainreese @ May 30 2012, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Big Show @ May 30 2012, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TOTALLY sweet spoiler that's visible on the General Discussion page. Thanks!


My apologies. I changed it.


I'll forgive it. This time. icon-arcee.gif
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