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@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:52 PM)

Just a few more days until my Battletech key goes live on GOG...

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 April 2018 - 08:51 PM)

The first Transformers live action film really IS a lot better than what popular culture has made it out to be.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 April 2018 - 08:27 PM)

I dunno if I'd go that far. I enjoyed the first Bayformers more than the MMPR Movie remake

@  RichardT1977 : (21 April 2018 - 08:22 PM)

For the record, it was better than the (live-action) Transformers movies.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 08:21 PM)

No, I wasn't at the krispy kreme when I beat them. Wait, what?

@  Paladin : (21 April 2018 - 08:13 PM)

go back to Krispy Kreme

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 07:08 PM)

I beat five teenagers with attitude before, I can do it again.

@  Pennpenn : (21 April 2018 - 07:02 PM)

Great, after ten thousand years Wonko is free again. Does this mean more Power Rangers are needed? Again?

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 April 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Ah, the layer of ice that froze it shut finally melted?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 April 2018 - 09:14 AM)

Oh my god! GUYS! It's actually warm enough I was able to open my window!

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 11:14 PM)

Eh, I guess. He did fairly well on his own as an independent in his first appearance and such.

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 10:04 PM)

@Sabrblade Vulture tends to fare poorly as his own boss. Working for a great version of Doc Ock ain't a bad gig... and I did ask if about "bad" as opposed to "not the best". ;)

@  Plokatron : (20 April 2018 - 09:53 PM)

@Egon1982 No my friend Mutator Spiders as in get caught in their web and you are mutated into a even more animalistic creature than you were. Hordika were Half Sentient beings half Wild animal and unlike Spiderman it affected each race slightly differnt with Toa being of a similar mutation to each other. My guess for Spiderman is he would become more spider like but with a inside skeletal structure hmm wonder what Visorak Venom would do to CNA make Dinobot Predacon like monsters or something wild?!

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 04:15 PM)

compared to the "youth-sucking" gimmick from the other series? BIG step up.

@  Sabrblade : (20 April 2018 - 03:57 PM)

@Otaku: What about that show's take on Vulture? He had potential at first but he eventually just settled into being a lackey rather than his own boss.

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:44 PM)

Did anyone else thought Thunder in Big Trouble in Little China when he was inflating looked like a garbage pail kid before he blew up into salad? I always thought that since seeing the movie in theaters at age 5. 

@  Egon1982 : (20 April 2018 - 02:25 PM)

Mutator spiders as in man-spider?

@  Otaku : (20 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

Shocker was a pretty good villain in The Spectacular Spider-Man animated series. Wait, does that count since I can't think of a bad take on any character from that series? ;)

@  Arazyr : (20 April 2018 - 09:26 AM)

Ontario/Detroit area? Yeah. Supposedly, you could feel it from where I live, but I didn't notice. I never feel these things. 8(

@  Paladin : (20 April 2018 - 07:08 AM)

so that WAS an earthquake last night...

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 09:43 PM)

Webhead Vs. Mutater Spiders. Hmmm I can see this ending badly with HordikaMan Hey maybe it'd make Venom catchable with spider sense.

@  Broadside : (19 April 2018 - 09:16 PM)

Can't wait for Spider-Man to fight the Visorak

@  RichardT1977 : (19 April 2018 - 05:32 PM)

Aw, man!

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 April 2018 - 04:47 PM)

SNIPER NO SNIPING

@  Bass X0 : (19 April 2018 - 04:33 PM)

SNIPERER!

@  Paladin : (19 April 2018 - 10:34 AM)

hated that game. damn sniper level's insane.

@  Plokatron : (19 April 2018 - 08:21 AM)

You know what's funny? Both Spiderman and Bionicle have a title in common. Web of Shadows. :p

@  Liege : (19 April 2018 - 08:03 AM)

Don't mocks the Shocker!

@  unluckiness : (19 April 2018 - 04:46 AM)

But he's the second lamest Spider-Man villain

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 April 2018 - 10:56 PM)

You know.. for all intents and purposes, Shocker should have won in Kamen Rider 71.

@  Plokatron : (18 April 2018 - 06:55 PM)

:wtf :D :wtf Can't wait can't wait just a couple more days and I'm at Comiccon Cape! Gonna be a blast! I hope they have that freaking proper Master Sword Replica this year with the black handel (I love the one from the old comic drawn by the guy who did Cyborg 009)!!!

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 April 2018 - 05:55 AM)

Found on Cranialtome.

@  unluckiness : (18 April 2018 - 05:32 AM)

Oh, so MP-scaled Bill Cypher with stupidly fiddly hands.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 April 2018 - 08:47 AM)

through a third party on facebook.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 April 2018 - 11:30 PM)

Did the Vok know Bill Cipher?

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 April 2018 - 08:09 PM)

See my thread ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (16 April 2018 - 01:32 PM)

Do you mean physically without actually wiring them up?

@  wonko the sane? : (16 April 2018 - 01:32 PM)

Uh... how do you not know?

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 April 2018 - 12:46 PM)

I'm wondering if HP stuck in an extra 128SDD + 3TB HDD into the computer I bought for $850

@  Benbot : (16 April 2018 - 11:58 AM)

"OH"

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2018 - 11:06 AM)

"Semper Fi"

@  EShadowP : (16 April 2018 - 10:36 AM)

"Simper-Fi" :thumbsup

@  Plokatron : (16 April 2018 - 12:31 AM)

Oh my word it is true. The greatest Gunnery Sargent to live is now gone. Gunny I know I'd of never cut the mustard if you were my CO but as I friend I would of been humbled and honored to know a man who truly knew the corp. May the jackets always be full metal and no watermelon left standing. Forgive the jokes there but you made it clear you hated watermelons with how many you sliced, blasted and plain disintegrated on Tv. :thumbsup  (Why do we not have a Wheeljack salute emot?)  Simper-Fi Carry on Gunny see you up there in the great kingdom one day hope you enjoy the company of my great uncles and everyone who you saw last on that field of honor.

@  Plokatron : (16 April 2018 - 12:21 AM)

Wait what!!!!!!! Gunny is dead!!!!

@  Sabrblade : (15 April 2018 - 09:37 PM)

RIP, R. Lee Ermey :(

@  B-Fox : (15 April 2018 - 02:06 PM)

If yer yellah!

@  Otaku : (15 April 2018 - 07:55 AM)

@fourteenwings If not, it is really, really close. Then again, maybe you shouldn't trust me. I liked the jacket. XD

@  fourteenwings : (15 April 2018 - 05:32 AM)

Bill Maher?

@  Bass X0 : (15 April 2018 - 03:52 AM)

Should we as a society change our way of life, culture and general thinking to that which people fifty years from now could look back without being judgemental of our ways? Today we look back at people from fifty years ago and openly criticise things that were considered acceptable and normal back then as not fitting in with our modern day standards that we have to censor them, or have the disclaimer that's just how it was back then. So surely things we as a population consider normal and acceptable today may not fit in with the standards of fifty years from now. But how do we know what would be acceptable and normal fifty years from now that we are supposedly doing wrong today? We don't. That's the point when we are applying modern day standards and way of thinking to a time fifty years ago.

@  Plokatron : (14 April 2018 - 11:09 PM)

Thank you my friend. I hope so too.


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#161 Benbot

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

I can?t believe people actually prefer Animated over Prime. To me, Animated always seemed like a program for kindergarteners. Bumblebee learns a valuable lesson! and lame human villains dominated the show. The characters acted more like whiny, spoiled children than warriors or technicians or whatever they were supposed to be. I despised the design aesthetic of super simplicity and bizarre exaggerated proportions. I can?t give credit to the writing everyone is praising because it?s full of terrible overplayed stereotypes, awful clich?s, and Sari?s fixes-everything key. I know it is a cartoon, but its ?cartooniness? didn?t fit the Transformers mythos at all. Animated had its moments, and I didn?t hate it, but I was glad when it died and was buried.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

(This is an honest question, I'm not being mean or snarky.)

Edited by NightViper, 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ May 9 2012, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ May 9 2012, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's a Lovecraft Anime? Like, actual Cthulhu and Shoggoths and stuff? If so... TELL ME MORE.

Are you kidding? Lovecraft and Japan go back decades. Admittedly, it's not exactly super-mainstream, but there's stuff out there!

Hell, Lovecraft pretty much invented tentacle rape. icon-arcee.gif

QUOTE(Sharpfinger @ May 10 2012, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some people like dark tones and slow pacing shows. For those people Prime is an amazing show.

Actually, as one of those people who love slow-burning "conspiracy" stories, I think the problem with Prime is that it's trying to be both a slow-burn serial and an episodic action-show --and thus failing at both. It ends up looking more like what an action-show writer thinks a slow-burn series looks like (using the tropes without really understanding the underlying principles).

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

Clearly this show is meant to be held to the bellies of pregnant women.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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gutspa


chutzpa maybe?

Anyway - good points. icon-hotrod.gif
 
 
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#166 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.

That alone set a pretty high bar yet Animated is still considered a children's show by some? I really think people just can't get past the art style.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

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people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons


[citation needed]

As always in cases like this, any "evidence" is going to be anecdotal at best, but I can tell you that when BTAS came out and I was in love with it, the majority of my friends and classmates thought it looked weird and stupid and should have looked more like the totally rad comic-book-detailed Fox X-Men.


I second this. BTAS was a *groundbreaking* and *daring* art style. It didn't look like anything else that had been animated in decades. Why? Because it had the balls to render its characters in half the lines that folks were used to. And at first, everyone was aghast. Fans complained that it wasn't what cartoons should look like, that Batman should be "realistic," and that the lack of lines made it look like a dumb kiddie cartoon. Executive producers had the same complaints, and it was an uphill battle to implement! Some fans complained that it looked "too anime," because anything that doesn't look like Jonny Quest is "anime."

Of course, the reason Bruce Timm designed the show this way was so it would look good animated. Lots of lines in your character models makes it harder to animate so it looks good. The more details and curves and greebles, the grosser it's going to look when animated on an average TV animation budget. (See Fox X-Men.) Timm cut his chops drawing He-Man and G.I. Joe, and he thought it was ridiculous how anti-animation those designs were. And so as soon as he got control of a cartoon, and one on a subject he cared about, he pushed for a revolutionary look.

And it worked.

And when he got to redesign Batman again a few years later, he pushed a bit more.

Citations: The "Batman Animated" art book and "Modern Masters: Bruce Timm."

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ May 10 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*

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#170 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:20 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*



Actually I wasn't paying attention and thought the quote was from someone else.... x.x;

#171 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:22 AM

Well that makes more sense icon-waspy.gif
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#172 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:24 AM

I don't want to! I'm tired.. I worked all night, and I still haven't found new toys!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:25 AM

Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:34 AM

Animated's potential was seen, and to an extent, explored especially in the 3rd season. Prime thus far has had a few great fights, and some truly good characters here and there, but a lot of it feels VERY same-y. Plots blur together, not much yet to really "define" the season (not necessary per-se, but it certainly helps) and so on.

Prime has a lot of potential, but the budgetary limitations of CG will never hit certain buttons that animated by virtue of being hand drawn was able to achieve.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

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Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.

For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.
Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.
But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!

Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

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For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.


Hey hey, I was just pointing something out!

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Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.


Yes. So. It's not anything new or groundbreaking. It comes with the territory, said territory being children's programming. I guess if you mean Transformers, it has been explored before there too:

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

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Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.


Okay. I agree with you on the toddler stuff.

But, it's still a common theme in children's programming. It's not that animated or prime are bad, it's just that Transformers in general has never really had brilliant storytelling.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

It was a Constructicon origin story, so it might not have actually happened! icon-fire.gif icon-blitz.gif

...okay, yeah it was one of the emotionally stronger things from the G1 'toon. But well, Constructicons...

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

You can say it has been done before but, as I said, not with the same emotional weight. G1 was fluff as it was meant to be. Ratchet's issues were pretty damn severe and they above and beyond to show that. Now Prime is picking up the ball and doing the same with Arcee.

TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:23 PM

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TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.




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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:26 PM

Here we go...

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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