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@  Shrug : (21 July 2018 - 02:11 PM)

Anyone have experience with HFTD Seaspray? I just bought a used one (for a buck!) and all his hip ratchets broke on first movement. Does he just generally have fragile ratchets or is GPS starting?

@  Paladin : (20 July 2018 - 09:24 PM)

Remember it, for it is the last thing you will hear before I *shuffle* EXPRESS MY FEELINGS IN SONG!!!!!!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 July 2018 - 08:46 PM)

Blitzwing, eh?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 July 2018 - 08:46 PM)

Huh.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 July 2018 - 06:29 PM)

He leaks his crankcase, then we all catch a few new dents.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2018 - 02:58 PM)

Quick, somebody put his hand in some warm oil and see what happens.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 July 2018 - 02:25 PM)

Guys, SSSHHHHH. Megatron is passed out right over there, and dude is a MEAN drunk. Don't wake him up.

@  Paladin : (20 July 2018 - 02:04 PM)

*checks Hasbro's offerings* so, never. :(

@  Jetstream C-18 : (20 July 2018 - 01:26 PM)

They're all hugged when Omega Supreme gets back

@  unluckiness : (20 July 2018 - 10:00 AM)

Megatron is hammered! Now, I, Starscream am leader of the Decepticons!

@  wonko the sane? : (20 July 2018 - 09:47 AM)

And megatron is so confused as to why no one is shooting at him anymore that he starts binge drinking.

@  unluckiness : (20 July 2018 - 08:46 AM)

Grimlock eats them for lunch.

@  Paladin : (20 July 2018 - 08:09 AM)

Optimus wants to free the Minicons. Ultra Magnus says it infringes states' rights.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 July 2018 - 08:07 AM)

So... the nicest beings in the universe are fighting with each other?

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2018 - 08:01 AM)

No Decepticons. It's Autobots Civil War.

@  Gryllid : (20 July 2018 - 07:55 AM)

New York Comic Con is in October, maybe there?

@  Nevermore : (20 July 2018 - 05:49 AM)

So.. thus far, Hasbro only revealed Autobots for Siege. Any ideas which show they will reveal the Decepticons at?

@  Nevermore : (20 July 2018 - 05:44 AM)

So where did the "Stege" logo come from? All I can find is Sipher posting it an making fun of it. Where did that inconvenient version originate?

@  Sabrblade : (19 July 2018 - 11:53 PM)

True. But it was due to Transformers' use of the name that Saban at the time couldn't use it.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2018 - 11:38 PM)

But that's not necessarily a reference, just an attempt to use "Technobable" name.

@  Sabrblade : (19 July 2018 - 10:57 PM)

It's not Power Rangers, but Saban's VR Troopers was originally going to be titled "Cybertron".

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2018 - 09:26 PM)

@paladin Energon would be too obvious. That's why I like Ore-13. It's not overt.. but still a nice nod.

@  Paladin : (19 July 2018 - 08:05 PM)

the original Sentai called it "Enetron." all they have to change is ONE LETTER.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2018 - 06:26 PM)

@saberblade True.. But I don't know.. I just want something simple like the "Energy source" in Beast Morphers to be Ore-13 or something like that.

@  Sabrblade : (19 July 2018 - 05:41 PM)

@Tm_Silverclaw: Operation Overdrive did have a weapon called the "Transtech Armor" ;)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 July 2018 - 04:49 PM)

*sigh* This is going to be a long subline.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 July 2018 - 04:49 PM)

I already hate the overuse of "STEGE".

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2018 - 04:16 PM)

I just want Power Ranger refferenes in TF and Vice versa now.

@  Onyxstrike : (19 July 2018 - 11:32 AM)

I think Hasbro might be after more than just my money this time around with these reveals.

@  Otaku : (18 July 2018 - 02:39 PM)

@TheMightyMollusk Thanks for clarifying.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 July 2018 - 12:34 PM)

@Otaku, most people were oblivious. The smart ones did their emergency shopping the day before, so there wasn't much left anyway.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2018 - 09:37 AM)

@wonko Only happened a few times and I don't remember the exact details, but yeah.

@  Otaku : (18 July 2018 - 08:06 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Is that really the same thing? I mean, it is if the people were casually shopping and oblivious to the danger to them or the employees of the store, but if they were desperately trying to get needed supplies themselves... or am I just supposed to be smart enough to know you wouldn't have brought it up if it wasn't the former? >_<

@  wonko the sane? : (18 July 2018 - 07:59 AM)

Okay, what? I've had to explain why the TV wouldn't work when the power is out to children, but never to an adult in their right mind.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2018 - 07:44 AM)

*When I worked at the cable call center, some people wondered why their TV wouldn't work when there was an outage...

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2018 - 07:43 AM)

w

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 July 2018 - 03:11 AM)

We had people still trying to shop while we were being pushed by state police to shut the store down due to flooding. The police finally had to help herd them out.

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2018 - 07:36 PM)

Or working for an airline and people complaining about not being able to take off in severe weather, and expecting us to know when the bad weather will end. *points at window*

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Outages/fire alarms are fun when you work retail and people complain that they can't keep shopping.

@  Echowarrior : (17 July 2018 - 07:11 PM)

Outages occasionally happened at the fulfillment center I used to work at. Never fun.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2018 - 04:51 PM)

Apparently the early shift (i.e. those who didn't participate in the walkout) were sitting in the cafeteria, waiting for power to return, while the late shift couldn't even enter the building.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 July 2018 - 04:18 PM)

Oh, wow. I thought the news about the website outtage would have been the topper, but that pretty much wins.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2018 - 04:14 PM)

Whoopsie.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2018 - 04:14 PM)

First the union called for a two-day strike yesterday, and then today the entire city where the Amazon warehouse I work at is located apparently had a power outage.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2018 - 04:14 PM)

So,uh. Seems like Amazon's Prime Day really didn't go well this year.

@  unluckiness : (17 July 2018 - 09:55 AM)

It wasn't just blander and more polite bacon like I was expecting

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 July 2018 - 09:51 AM)

Canadian bacon.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 July 2018 - 09:15 AM)

And the even more important question is: is that ballpit deep enough to conceal a body... what?

@  unluckiness : (17 July 2018 - 05:35 AM)

THe more important question is if they have a ball pit

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2018 - 10:18 PM)

How many attendees on average does TFcon get? And how about TFNation?


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#161 Benbot

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

I can?t believe people actually prefer Animated over Prime. To me, Animated always seemed like a program for kindergarteners. Bumblebee learns a valuable lesson! and lame human villains dominated the show. The characters acted more like whiny, spoiled children than warriors or technicians or whatever they were supposed to be. I despised the design aesthetic of super simplicity and bizarre exaggerated proportions. I can?t give credit to the writing everyone is praising because it?s full of terrible overplayed stereotypes, awful clich?s, and Sari?s fixes-everything key. I know it is a cartoon, but its ?cartooniness? didn?t fit the Transformers mythos at all. Animated had its moments, and I didn?t hate it, but I was glad when it died and was buried.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

(This is an honest question, I'm not being mean or snarky.)

Edited by NightViper, 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:43 AM

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There's a Lovecraft Anime? Like, actual Cthulhu and Shoggoths and stuff? If so... TELL ME MORE.

Are you kidding? Lovecraft and Japan go back decades. Admittedly, it's not exactly super-mainstream, but there's stuff out there!

Hell, Lovecraft pretty much invented tentacle rape. icon-arcee.gif

QUOTE(Sharpfinger @ May 10 2012, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some people like dark tones and slow pacing shows. For those people Prime is an amazing show.

Actually, as one of those people who love slow-burning "conspiracy" stories, I think the problem with Prime is that it's trying to be both a slow-burn serial and an episodic action-show --and thus failing at both. It ends up looking more like what an action-show writer thinks a slow-burn series looks like (using the tropes without really understanding the underlying principles).

#164 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

Clearly this show is meant to be held to the bellies of pregnant women.
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#165 Dake

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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gutspa


chutzpa maybe?

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#166 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.

That alone set a pretty high bar yet Animated is still considered a children's show by some? I really think people just can't get past the art style.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

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people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons


[citation needed]

As always in cases like this, any "evidence" is going to be anecdotal at best, but I can tell you that when BTAS came out and I was in love with it, the majority of my friends and classmates thought it looked weird and stupid and should have looked more like the totally rad comic-book-detailed Fox X-Men.


I second this. BTAS was a *groundbreaking* and *daring* art style. It didn't look like anything else that had been animated in decades. Why? Because it had the balls to render its characters in half the lines that folks were used to. And at first, everyone was aghast. Fans complained that it wasn't what cartoons should look like, that Batman should be "realistic," and that the lack of lines made it look like a dumb kiddie cartoon. Executive producers had the same complaints, and it was an uphill battle to implement! Some fans complained that it looked "too anime," because anything that doesn't look like Jonny Quest is "anime."

Of course, the reason Bruce Timm designed the show this way was so it would look good animated. Lots of lines in your character models makes it harder to animate so it looks good. The more details and curves and greebles, the grosser it's going to look when animated on an average TV animation budget. (See Fox X-Men.) Timm cut his chops drawing He-Man and G.I. Joe, and he thought it was ridiculous how anti-animation those designs were. And so as soon as he got control of a cartoon, and one on a subject he cared about, he pushed for a revolutionary look.

And it worked.

And when he got to redesign Batman again a few years later, he pushed a bit more.

Citations: The "Batman Animated" art book and "Modern Masters: Bruce Timm."

#168 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

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#169 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*

Edited by Cheetimus Primal, 10 May 2012 - 11:10 AM.

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#170 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:20 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*



Actually I wasn't paying attention and thought the quote was from someone else.... x.x;

#171 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:22 AM

Well that makes more sense icon-waspy.gif
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#172 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:24 AM

I don't want to! I'm tired.. I worked all night, and I still haven't found new toys!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:25 AM

Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.


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#174 Vestras

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:34 AM

Animated's potential was seen, and to an extent, explored especially in the 3rd season. Prime thus far has had a few great fights, and some truly good characters here and there, but a lot of it feels VERY same-y. Plots blur together, not much yet to really "define" the season (not necessary per-se, but it certainly helps) and so on.

Prime has a lot of potential, but the budgetary limitations of CG will never hit certain buttons that animated by virtue of being hand drawn was able to achieve.
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#175 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

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Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.

For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.
Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.
But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!

Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

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For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.


Hey hey, I was just pointing something out!

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Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.


Yes. So. It's not anything new or groundbreaking. It comes with the territory, said territory being children's programming. I guess if you mean Transformers, it has been explored before there too:

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

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Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.


Okay. I agree with you on the toddler stuff.

But, it's still a common theme in children's programming. It's not that animated or prime are bad, it's just that Transformers in general has never really had brilliant storytelling.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

It was a Constructicon origin story, so it might not have actually happened! icon-fire.gif icon-blitz.gif

...okay, yeah it was one of the emotionally stronger things from the G1 'toon. But well, Constructicons...

#178 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

You can say it has been done before but, as I said, not with the same emotional weight. G1 was fluff as it was meant to be. Ratchet's issues were pretty damn severe and they above and beyond to show that. Now Prime is picking up the ball and doing the same with Arcee.

TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:23 PM

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TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.




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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:26 PM

Here we go...

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