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@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 07:33 AM)

I was at work when it happened I guess.

@  Paladin : (17 October 2018 - 07:18 AM)

disappeared completely up its own asshole.

@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 02:14 AM)

Youtube was gone?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 11:53 PM)

I actually agree with you MEDdMI, or at least be creative. x.x

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2018 - 11:29 PM)

Death threats are boring. Get to know the person, then torment them with stuff that really gets under their skin. *evil grin*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2018 - 10:18 PM)

YouTube is back!

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 09:55 PM)

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 October 2018 - 09:27 PM)

BTW for the three of you who haven't discovered yet, YouTube is down.

@  Telly : (16 October 2018 - 08:05 PM)

maybe this is that persons first death threat, and the creativity will come with more experiance

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Nah. Or at least not near as creative as some of them I've got. This one was a basic "If I ever see you IRL I'll slit you're throat."

@  wonko the sane? : (16 October 2018 - 06:00 PM)

was it at least a creative threat?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 01:07 PM)

Speaking of which.. Got a deaththeat today on an other messageboard. :D

@  Shockwave 75 : (16 October 2018 - 07:14 AM)

Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pidgeon; no matter what you do it's going to shit on the board and strut around like it won.

@  Pennpenn : (16 October 2018 - 05:48 AM)

Well, there is also the fact that the person you're arguing against won't accept the authority as neutral (or valid or credible) unless they agree with everything that person says.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 05:35 AM)

Never argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:21 AM)

Anyone who's ever argued with dumbasses on the internet knows how stubborn and persistent they can be. Dozens of people can tell them they're wrong, and they' just stick their fingers in their ears and go "na na can't hear you!"

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:19 AM)

Especially if its a bet about an objective truth. Chances are, you provide overwhelming evidence for your position, the dumbass won't accept your evidence or will just change the rules and then claim the money you allegedly owe him.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:17 AM)

I've just been reminded of a life lesson: Never take a bet with a dumbass unless there's a neutral authority accepted by both sides that will decide on the winner.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 03:42 AM)

Peace was never an option.

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

The war between the cerapods and the theropods continues to the modern era

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:51 PM)

The parrot, once I stopped pressing the button on the toy. It might have gone on forever otherwise.

@  Foffy : (15 October 2018 - 11:43 PM)

Depends. Who won?

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:37 PM)

Should I be worried that my 40-year-old parrot got into a roaring contest with a Jurassic World toy?

@  Paladin : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

was the bride's name Sarah Connor?

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

A sawed off shotgun is fairly easy to conceal. Of course, they're also illegal.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 October 2018 - 04:19 PM)

Maybe they wear a really, really baggy coat.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 04:10 PM)

I don't wanna think about the body type where a SHOTGUN is concealed carry.

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2018 - 04:08 PM)

"If there any objections-" *Both sides pull out ridiculous amounts of weapons against each other*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

Someone else quips in the comments, "I have heard of a shotgun wedding, but this is ridiculous!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

I saw a random shipost on Facebook. Evidently, there are people in the U.S. who have to ask wedding guests not to bring their concealed-carry weapons.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 October 2018 - 07:09 AM)

Hey.. I tried to say that google game streaming actually works pretty good... Now if that's depressing, that's a WHOLE nother ball of wax. ;D

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 06:29 AM)

The box is being used exactly as it was meant to: for random conversation. If it's depressing it's because the group whom use it is neither oblivious or stupid and we happen to be discussing depressing things.

@  fourteenwings : (15 October 2018 - 12:27 AM)

I'm starting to feel like the box is being used in lieu of actual serious threads (not to be terrible but seeing this as soon as you get on the forums is depressing).

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

It's shameful that randos in richer countries pretend like it's not happening.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

Small island countries are already sinking below sea level and being consumed by the ocean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:28 PM)

Which is why poorer countries are some of the ones most worried at this point, I imagine. Wealthy countries like the US, Canada, etc won't feel the effects nearly as soon

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 10:05 PM)

Realistically: there doesn't have to be truly catastrophic impacts to screw us all over. Frequent enough storms will disrupt our infrastructure, which will hobble our ability to rebuild quickly and cause pretty big backslides in quality of life. I don't mean "oh no, I can't charge my iphone", more like "dysentery is as common as the flu because the resources just aren't there to clean the water anymore".

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

If no, then procrastinate some more

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

Well, the most important question: is it going to stop me getting some drive thru at McDonald's?

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2018 - 09:21 PM)

It's kinda nuts seeing insurance ads tell everyone multiple 500-year storms a year is the new normal, but the general attitude over is still at best *shrug*.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 October 2018 - 08:18 PM)

Sad thing is... Boomers are still leaving their vile taint on a lot of the younger generation.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

Certainly the boomers won't live to see it, and they're the worst generation for not giving a shit

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

We're seeing some of it, yeah, but very likely all the truly catastrophic impacts will hit once most of us are dead

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 07:46 PM)

Stupid thing is: We ARE seeing results in our lifetime, but it's still slow enough that we, as a culture, are willing to ignore it despite what the scientists are saying.

@  MEDdMI : (14 October 2018 - 07:41 PM)

Captain Planet we need you

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:30 PM)

As long as nothing interrupts their morning latte and consumer-driven lifestyles, they're good

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:26 PM)

Because humans are notoriously bad at caring about things they don't see happening within their lifetimes

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:09 PM)

And no one else in my class cared. None of my teachers cared. My parents didn't care.

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:08 PM)

One of my more frustrating memories regarding Climate Change is from when I was in 2nd grade in 1996. My poor redneck middle-of-nowhere school had a decade old science textbook written so a 2nd grader could read it and it had enough about the impending Global Warming that I was worried as a 6 year old.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Plus a MUCH higher chance of lake effect snow: since milder means the great lakes will take that much longer to freeze over.


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#161 Benbot

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

I can?t believe people actually prefer Animated over Prime. To me, Animated always seemed like a program for kindergarteners. Bumblebee learns a valuable lesson! and lame human villains dominated the show. The characters acted more like whiny, spoiled children than warriors or technicians or whatever they were supposed to be. I despised the design aesthetic of super simplicity and bizarre exaggerated proportions. I can?t give credit to the writing everyone is praising because it?s full of terrible overplayed stereotypes, awful clich?s, and Sari?s fixes-everything key. I know it is a cartoon, but its ?cartooniness? didn?t fit the Transformers mythos at all. Animated had its moments, and I didn?t hate it, but I was glad when it died and was buried.

#162 NightViper

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

(This is an honest question, I'm not being mean or snarky.)

Edited by NightViper, 10 May 2012 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:43 AM

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There's a Lovecraft Anime? Like, actual Cthulhu and Shoggoths and stuff? If so... TELL ME MORE.

Are you kidding? Lovecraft and Japan go back decades. Admittedly, it's not exactly super-mainstream, but there's stuff out there!

Hell, Lovecraft pretty much invented tentacle rape. icon-arcee.gif

QUOTE(Sharpfinger @ May 10 2012, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some people like dark tones and slow pacing shows. For those people Prime is an amazing show.

Actually, as one of those people who love slow-burning "conspiracy" stories, I think the problem with Prime is that it's trying to be both a slow-burn serial and an episodic action-show --and thus failing at both. It ends up looking more like what an action-show writer thinks a slow-burn series looks like (using the tropes without really understanding the underlying principles).

#164 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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Tell us then, what do you think of Rescue Bots?

Clearly this show is meant to be held to the bellies of pregnant women.
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#165 Dake

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

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gutspa


chutzpa maybe?

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#166 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.

That alone set a pretty high bar yet Animated is still considered a children's show by some? I really think people just can't get past the art style.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

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people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons


[citation needed]

As always in cases like this, any "evidence" is going to be anecdotal at best, but I can tell you that when BTAS came out and I was in love with it, the majority of my friends and classmates thought it looked weird and stupid and should have looked more like the totally rad comic-book-detailed Fox X-Men.


I second this. BTAS was a *groundbreaking* and *daring* art style. It didn't look like anything else that had been animated in decades. Why? Because it had the balls to render its characters in half the lines that folks were used to. And at first, everyone was aghast. Fans complained that it wasn't what cartoons should look like, that Batman should be "realistic," and that the lack of lines made it look like a dumb kiddie cartoon. Executive producers had the same complaints, and it was an uphill battle to implement! Some fans complained that it looked "too anime," because anything that doesn't look like Jonny Quest is "anime."

Of course, the reason Bruce Timm designed the show this way was so it would look good animated. Lots of lines in your character models makes it harder to animate so it looks good. The more details and curves and greebles, the grosser it's going to look when animated on an average TV animation budget. (See Fox X-Men.) Timm cut his chops drawing He-Man and G.I. Joe, and he thought it was ridiculous how anti-animation those designs were. And so as soon as he got control of a cartoon, and one on a subject he cared about, he pushed for a revolutionary look.

And it worked.

And when he got to redesign Batman again a few years later, he pushed a bit more.

Citations: The "Batman Animated" art book and "Modern Masters: Bruce Timm."

#168 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

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#169 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*

Edited by Cheetimus Primal, 10 May 2012 - 11:10 AM.

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#170 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:20 AM

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Seriously, a show where a character has physical and mental scars due to the war he's seen. He has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the patient he couldn't save and even had to mind wipe.


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Seriously, a show where a character has mental scars due to the war she's seen. She has flashbacks in the midst of battle over the Partners she couldn't save.


Yeah.. Not getting very far with that one.

With what one? I wasn't comparing the two, I was just defending Animated.

What, now we have to choose sides in this thread?

Because I CLEARLY hate prime SOOOO much. *looks at his recent history of sigs*



Actually I wasn't paying attention and thought the quote was from someone else.... x.x;

#171 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:22 AM

Well that makes more sense icon-waspy.gif
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#172 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:24 AM

I don't want to! I'm tired.. I worked all night, and I still haven't found new toys!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:25 AM

Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.


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#174 Vestras

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:34 AM

Animated's potential was seen, and to an extent, explored especially in the 3rd season. Prime thus far has had a few great fights, and some truly good characters here and there, but a lot of it feels VERY same-y. Plots blur together, not much yet to really "define" the season (not necessary per-se, but it certainly helps) and so on.

Prime has a lot of potential, but the budgetary limitations of CG will never hit certain buttons that animated by virtue of being hand drawn was able to achieve.
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#175 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

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Pretty sure "character has dark past/skeletons in closet" is pretty stock standard.

For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.
Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.
But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!

Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

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For someone that gets sick of people using broad brush tactics you sure do like to trot them out.


Hey hey, I was just pointing something out!

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Who effing cares if it's been done before. EVERYTHING has been done before.


Yes. So. It's not anything new or groundbreaking. It comes with the territory, said territory being children's programming. I guess if you mean Transformers, it has been explored before there too:

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

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Calling it a show for only made for toddlers is ignoring the much more mature themes that ran through that show on a regular basis. That's the point I was making. Period.


Okay. I agree with you on the toddler stuff.

But, it's still a common theme in children's programming. It's not that animated or prime are bad, it's just that Transformers in general has never really had brilliant storytelling.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

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But have war flash backs as detailed and emotional as these been done in TF animation before? No. And that's not even the point I was making so what the hell?!


I dunno, Omega Supreme having his only friends brainwashed permanently and then they destroy his home before tricking him and scarring him for good was pretty heartbreaking. Poor big lug.

It was a Constructicon origin story, so it might not have actually happened! icon-fire.gif icon-blitz.gif

...okay, yeah it was one of the emotionally stronger things from the G1 'toon. But well, Constructicons...

#178 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

You can say it has been done before but, as I said, not with the same emotional weight. G1 was fluff as it was meant to be. Ratchet's issues were pretty damn severe and they above and beyond to show that. Now Prime is picking up the ball and doing the same with Arcee.

TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:23 PM

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TF shows got pretty damn heavy with the Beast series and then we lost that for a long time. Now it's back and it started with Animated.




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Coby: ... I-it's your eyes, Hot Shot.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:26 PM

Here we go...

"Disabled people donít have special needs. We have very reasonable human needs. Our needs include freedom from abuse, violence, and mistreatment, the right to autonomy and self-direction, the right to represent ourselves, equal opportunity for education and employment, the right to accommodation, and societal inclusion and acceptance.

The need for accommodation isnít a ďspecial needĒ. Itís a basic human right. Itís a leveling of the playing field that allows us the same opportunities and chances as non-disabled people."


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