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@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 02:14 AM)

Youtube was gone?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 11:53 PM)

I actually agree with you MEDdMI, or at least be creative. x.x

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2018 - 11:29 PM)

Death threats are boring. Get to know the person, then torment them with stuff that really gets under their skin. *evil grin*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2018 - 10:18 PM)

YouTube is back!

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 09:55 PM)

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 October 2018 - 09:27 PM)

BTW for the three of you who haven't discovered yet, YouTube is down.

@  Telly : (16 October 2018 - 08:05 PM)

maybe this is that persons first death threat, and the creativity will come with more experiance

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Nah. Or at least not near as creative as some of them I've got. This one was a basic "If I ever see you IRL I'll slit you're throat."

@  wonko the sane? : (16 October 2018 - 06:00 PM)

was it at least a creative threat?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 01:07 PM)

Speaking of which.. Got a deaththeat today on an other messageboard. :D

@  Shockwave 75 : (16 October 2018 - 07:14 AM)

Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pidgeon; no matter what you do it's going to shit on the board and strut around like it won.

@  Pennpenn : (16 October 2018 - 05:48 AM)

Well, there is also the fact that the person you're arguing against won't accept the authority as neutral (or valid or credible) unless they agree with everything that person says.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 05:35 AM)

Never argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:21 AM)

Anyone who's ever argued with dumbasses on the internet knows how stubborn and persistent they can be. Dozens of people can tell them they're wrong, and they' just stick their fingers in their ears and go "na na can't hear you!"

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:19 AM)

Especially if its a bet about an objective truth. Chances are, you provide overwhelming evidence for your position, the dumbass won't accept your evidence or will just change the rules and then claim the money you allegedly owe him.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:17 AM)

I've just been reminded of a life lesson: Never take a bet with a dumbass unless there's a neutral authority accepted by both sides that will decide on the winner.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 03:42 AM)

Peace was never an option.

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

The war between the cerapods and the theropods continues to the modern era

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:51 PM)

The parrot, once I stopped pressing the button on the toy. It might have gone on forever otherwise.

@  Foffy : (15 October 2018 - 11:43 PM)

Depends. Who won?

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:37 PM)

Should I be worried that my 40-year-old parrot got into a roaring contest with a Jurassic World toy?

@  Paladin : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

was the bride's name Sarah Connor?

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

A sawed off shotgun is fairly easy to conceal. Of course, they're also illegal.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 October 2018 - 04:19 PM)

Maybe they wear a really, really baggy coat.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 04:10 PM)

I don't wanna think about the body type where a SHOTGUN is concealed carry.

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2018 - 04:08 PM)

"If there any objections-" *Both sides pull out ridiculous amounts of weapons against each other*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

Someone else quips in the comments, "I have heard of a shotgun wedding, but this is ridiculous!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

I saw a random shipost on Facebook. Evidently, there are people in the U.S. who have to ask wedding guests not to bring their concealed-carry weapons.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 October 2018 - 07:09 AM)

Hey.. I tried to say that google game streaming actually works pretty good... Now if that's depressing, that's a WHOLE nother ball of wax. ;D

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 06:29 AM)

The box is being used exactly as it was meant to: for random conversation. If it's depressing it's because the group whom use it is neither oblivious or stupid and we happen to be discussing depressing things.

@  fourteenwings : (15 October 2018 - 12:27 AM)

I'm starting to feel like the box is being used in lieu of actual serious threads (not to be terrible but seeing this as soon as you get on the forums is depressing).

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

It's shameful that randos in richer countries pretend like it's not happening.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

Small island countries are already sinking below sea level and being consumed by the ocean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:28 PM)

Which is why poorer countries are some of the ones most worried at this point, I imagine. Wealthy countries like the US, Canada, etc won't feel the effects nearly as soon

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 10:05 PM)

Realistically: there doesn't have to be truly catastrophic impacts to screw us all over. Frequent enough storms will disrupt our infrastructure, which will hobble our ability to rebuild quickly and cause pretty big backslides in quality of life. I don't mean "oh no, I can't charge my iphone", more like "dysentery is as common as the flu because the resources just aren't there to clean the water anymore".

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

If no, then procrastinate some more

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

Well, the most important question: is it going to stop me getting some drive thru at McDonald's?

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2018 - 09:21 PM)

It's kinda nuts seeing insurance ads tell everyone multiple 500-year storms a year is the new normal, but the general attitude over is still at best *shrug*.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 October 2018 - 08:18 PM)

Sad thing is... Boomers are still leaving their vile taint on a lot of the younger generation.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

Certainly the boomers won't live to see it, and they're the worst generation for not giving a shit

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

We're seeing some of it, yeah, but very likely all the truly catastrophic impacts will hit once most of us are dead

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 07:46 PM)

Stupid thing is: We ARE seeing results in our lifetime, but it's still slow enough that we, as a culture, are willing to ignore it despite what the scientists are saying.

@  MEDdMI : (14 October 2018 - 07:41 PM)

Captain Planet we need you

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:30 PM)

As long as nothing interrupts their morning latte and consumer-driven lifestyles, they're good

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:26 PM)

Because humans are notoriously bad at caring about things they don't see happening within their lifetimes

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:09 PM)

And no one else in my class cared. None of my teachers cared. My parents didn't care.

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:08 PM)

One of my more frustrating memories regarding Climate Change is from when I was in 2nd grade in 1996. My poor redneck middle-of-nowhere school had a decade old science textbook written so a 2nd grader could read it and it had enough about the impending Global Warming that I was worried as a 6 year old.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Plus a MUCH higher chance of lake effect snow: since milder means the great lakes will take that much longer to freeze over.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:07 PM)

Eh, really does depend on what you look for in winter. "Milder" also usually means "wetter", so... you know, MORE snow to deal with.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 02:01 PM)

It was unusually warm here as well, until 2 or 3 days ago. The temperature's a little more seasonal, now. They are predicting a milder winter than usual this year, which for Canada isn't such bad news


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#141 Flashlight

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:12 AM

I like both, but everytime I go back and watch animated I feel like im watching someones person fanon. Its just a bunch of G1 ideas kind of mixed up with questionable human interactions.

Prime isnt much better.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ May 10 2012, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because he has to talk about it all the time.

When the Autobots to go all psycho "DIS IS FER U, MORF!!!" whenever someone mentions Cliffjumper, yes I am expecting Dreadwing, who came to Earth solely to avenge his brother, to mention it more than once.

Bulkhead beat Starscream to death to avenge Cliffjumper. He smashed his head 'til it was nothing but an Energon stain on the floor. Sure, it turned out not to be the real deal, but he did it to avenge a guy who we know nothing about his relationship with. Were they friends? Begrudging rivals? Maybe they didn't even like eachother all too much, but it was either them or the 'cons, so they managed. No idea.

Edited by Fishbug, 10 May 2012 - 05:42 AM.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:40 AM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ May 10 2012, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Razorsaw @ May 10 2012, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because he has to talk about it all the time.

When the Autobots to go all psycho "DIS IS FER U, MORF!!!" whenever someone mentions Cliffjumper, yes I am expecting Dreadwing, who came to Earth solely to avenge his brother, to mention it more than once.

Just randomly, in the middle of other, more important things?

Especially considering that we haven't actually seen him interact with anyone but other Decepticons since his debut episode? All of twice? One instance of which he was kind of trying to keep the Decepticon warship from taking over, kind of more important?


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:58 AM

If only he ever had the Autobots all held at gunpoint. Then he could tell them what he really thinks.

Edited by Fishbug, 10 May 2012 - 05:58 AM.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ May 10 2012, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If only he ever had the Autobots all held at gunpoint. Then he could tell them what he really thinks.

Wasn't that in Crossfire?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#146 M Sipher

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:35 AM

Oh, right.

When he was busy trying to save his lord and master's life.

The same lord and master who had made it quite explicitly clear after Dreadwing nearly got himself killed in his little revenge ploy that this whole "MY BROTHER IS DEAD" thing wasn't going to fly and that Dreadwing has best reorganize his priorities.

Yeah, going on about your dead brother in those circumstances seems like an incredibly intelligent career move.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:38 AM

Megatron got to have a pre-retreat speech. You're telling me Dreadwing saying "This is not over" before leaving would have just been too much to handle?

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#148 Detour

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:38 AM

In other words, "Megatron tells Dreadwing to get over his brother's death, Dreadwing complies, and it's never brought up again".
Yeah, that death had meaning.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:44 AM

Or, you know, he keeps it to himself after almost being killed trying to avenge said brother.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:47 AM

Because we all know for a fact that it will never be brought up in any future episodes ever, and context of the scene is meaningless.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:49 AM

When Prime does it, it's a tired plot device.
When Animated does it, it's good writing!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:57 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ May 10 2012, 07:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because we all know for a fact that it will never be brought up in any future episodes ever, and context of the scene is meaningless.


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QUOTE(Fishbug @ May 10 2012, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Megatron got to have a pre-retreat speech. You're telling me Dreadwing saying "This is not over" before leaving would have just been too much to handle?


He doesn't need to be on a constant roaring rampage of revenge for the death to have meaning. But jesus, it's his entire reason for being on Earth to begin with, let's see something about his brother's death come up! It's been six episodes since his debut! Are the MacGuffins Of The Week really that much more important than character dynamics?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

A very difficult choice to make in a lot of ways. I guess pro-con it out.

Animated
PRO
* Huge recurring cast, tons of background cameos
--Including references across the entire spectrum (Beast Wars, Japan's G1, and so on)
*Stellar voice cast (Kaye, Bennett, Summers, Burton, Henrickson, etc)
--Up to an including casting Weird Al as Wreck-gar and Judd F'in Nelson as Rodimus
* Original characters added to the mythos (Lugnut, Bulkhead, Sentinel Prime, Yoketron)
* Great reinterpretations of older characters to give them new life (Arcee the teacher, Blitzwing the insane, Shockwave the infiltrator, Prowl the ninja, and so on)
* Strong continuity
* Great sense of humor most of the time.
* The second most threatening Megatron, THE most successful Starscream
* Finally remembering that the universe goes far beyond just our tiny core cast
* A semi-lovable supporting cast of squishies. Varied from story to story.
* Examining Cybertronian society and giving them a sense of history
* Great Original Soundtrack (Omegatron being a personal favorite)
* The first 5 minutes of "Transwarped Pt. 1" Nuff said

CON
* Human villains (uhg. In small doses fine, but the first season is far less good on repeat viewings)
* Character designs take a lot of getting used to (Both on show and as figures. Not to say they are bad, just a drastic departure.)
* MacGuffin do anything All-Spark plot device/Key
* Cut criminally short to make way for yet another poor movie/toyline.


PRIME
PROS
* Mostly great character designs, including some of the most expressive work done to date
* Gorgeous backgrounds
* Takes itself seriously in a well balanced way
* Insanely good action and fight scenes, some of the finest in the franchise period.
--Special Mention for One Shall Fall, easily the best fight since TFTM.
* Great Original Soundtrack
* Surprisingly good Squishy cast
--Special mention for June and Jack, Fowler is a lot more fun than Fanzone, and I actually like Miko.
* Amazing voice cast (KMR, Welker and Cullen together again, Steven Blum, Tony Todd, Gina Torres and Adam Baldwin and so on)
* Original/Expanded Characters (KnockOut and Airachnid being incredible, and the new Arcee is great~)
* THE most Threatening Megatron in TF history
* Solid stories (even with their MacGuffins), and a good job at history building.
* Lots of great callbacks across the spectrum
* Effective Human Villains

CONS
* Pointed nose/crests look poor on some designs.
--Baby Face Optimus prime <shudder>
* Recycled models (par for any CG series, not show specific), occasionally very dull scenery (any times in town)
* MacGuffin of the week plot, and ALL of Cybertrons history landed here (up to an including Big U)
* Certain character weirdness (Wheeljack is Drift, Arcee not being named Chromia~, High Turn over of 'Con cast)
* Raf.... Hug the hugging hug out of Raf. (Boy genius, Hollywood hacker, Oh I understand bee BS...Hug him)
* Shrill beeping Bee (with continued Bee oversaturation, and the idea that he is still a scout when he is clearly a striker)
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Overall, I like Animated's universe a lot more, but if I want to see something epic, I'm watching Prime.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:13 AM

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THE most successful Starscream

I kinda disagree with that for TFA Starscream, considering how Cybertron Starscream needed to be beaten by Primus himself.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

A lot about Prime feels like it was designed by committee. It just feels too safe, too solid. Theres nothing wrong with it, except a few things, but it all feels too prepared. for all of Animated faults, like animation not being the best or writing being off or whatever, the finished product felt more "warm" to me. If you saw a crappy episode, or a good one, it felt like they were having fun with it. In comparison,watching Prime really does feel like a chore. Maybe it's partially budget, and maybe it's because they have no risk of cancellation, but they have to continue upping the stakes. So many episodes begin to blur in my head, and it feels like they could use a loooot of brevity.

And man, am I tired of hearing Animated's design style was icky or whatever. Was it very template based? yeah, but honestly, so were a lot of other series. And people hating it because "lack of detail" Have those people never watched cartoons past the 80's? That generic, detailed, 80's design work bogs down animation because it's hard to keep on model. It's funny that Batman TAS was mentioned, because at the time, people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:26 AM

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people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons


[citation needed]

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:40 AM


Animated was a noticeably better, more even, more polished show all throughout, and in 3 seasons it only had maybe 2 really bad episodes (Velocity and Sari No One's Home).

Prime is great... NOW. But at least half of season one is unwatchable and there are still clunkers every four or five eps or so, and after having squandered all that time at the beginning they had to make up for it by basically fast-narrating a ton of backstory at us. It simply is not as well-planned or well-structured as Animated was.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:59 AM

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people thought it looked weird because it was far less detailed and looked nothing like past action cartoons


[citation needed]

As always in cases like this, any "evidence" is going to be anecdotal at best, but I can tell you that when BTAS came out and I was in love with it, the majority of my friends and classmates thought it looked weird and stupid and should have looked more like the totally rad comic-book-detailed Fox X-Men.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:29 AM

It does seem like Animated is getting a bit overrated here. It's a great show that I really enjoyed overall. I wish it would have continued, and I hate that we missed out on several toys and that S3 still hasn't been released on DVD. But like every show, it was far from perfect.

Right off the top of my head, the single thing that absolutely killed the series for me were the damn stasis cuffs. The show went to great lengths to limit exposure to the Decepticons in order to enhance their threat. Then the show absolutely cuts itself off at the knees by introducing an instant-win plot device. Any Decepticon, no matter how powerful, could suddenly be defeated instantly by slapping a pair of cuffs on them. Unless the fight needed to be epic, in which case the Autobots simply forget they exist. It reeks of incredibly poor writing. They built the villains up so high that they couldn't figure out how to have the heroes deal with them, so they just threw in a deus ex machina. For all the MacGuffins Prime has had, none have so unbalanced the show as stasis cuffs did. As if the key wasn't already enough...

Speaking of the Decepticons, where was Animated's great character work on the other side? Every Decepticon, aside from the one that was a converted Autobot, were extremely shallow characters. By keeping them out of sight, they are left very underdeveloped. It again sheds a poor light on the writers, implying they couldn't manage developing these characters while still making them credible threats. Prime isn't the best example of doing this right, but it's done better than Animated thus far.

I really like both shows. A lot. I can't pick between the two. I just get the sense that a lot of people here are focusing a lot on Prime's faults while pretending Animated's don't exist.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:22 AM

The show: Animated was fun, but Prime is entertaining.

The toys: Animated was fun, but Prime is entertaining.

Something to me that is fun is something distracting to indulge in to take your mind off the worries of the world for a short period of time, but then grows old and stale and you need to move on to other things.

Something that is entertaining is something to keep up with for longevity's sake, and has the gutspa to last a long time.

So I'd probably watch Animated in the privacy of my room, but I'd show off Prime to my friends. I'd play with Animated toys, but I'd collect Prime toys.

But I don't think these two can be accurately compared yet until the Prime series is over. It's like comparing a finished painting to a half-finished sculpture. Not only are the mediums of art (in this case, the intent of the series) significantly different, one isn't even finished yet.

But that's typical of fangasm circle-jerking.

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