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@  Robowang : (21 September 2017 - 10:06 PM)

Ok, I can't find the "Savage on a Ravage" pic that soneone pisted. Can anyone link me to it?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 12:47 PM)

I'm also sure you don't sparkle like a disco ball, otherwise someone woulda run you over by now.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

anyway I don't die in sunlight, I just get tired.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

correct

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 11:46 AM)

I'm pretty sure most vampires would cause a gremlin infestation just for the giggles.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 September 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Hmm, a vampire would have a hell of a hard time getting rid of a Gremlin infestation, wouldn't he?

@  OrionPax44 : (21 September 2017 - 11:13 AM)

Well then there's yellowing but isn't that all of them. I like to leave all my TF's in a hot car all day long to let all their joints turn to jelly.

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 11:12 AM)

what about sunlight??

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:50 AM)

KAIJU NOT FOR SALE

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 10:49 AM)

don't get any water on your trypticon, and don't feed him after midnight.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:42 AM)

I've had mine for two weeks with no problems. Just don't be a hamfist with it.

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 08:36 AM)

assuming they survive transport...

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 07:37 AM)

quiet you!

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 06:46 AM)

and the hips should break by Wednesday/.

@  Telly : (20 September 2017 - 09:00 PM)

just ordered tr trypticon. should have it monday :)

@  OrionPax44 : (20 September 2017 - 04:57 PM)

@Robowang I have one somewhere and I can send it to you. Don't worry about it. Just let me find it

@  Bass X0 : (20 September 2017 - 04:43 PM)

Sometime last week, I purchased Hasbro Windblade online then a day or two later, Takara Windblade was announced for only £4.99 more making me instantly regret buying Hasbro's Windblade. Guess I'll be giving Hasbro Windblade to my nephew for Christmas then.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:24 PM)

That whole flat-rate shipping thing makes the math easy.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:23 PM)

4 bucks

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:15 PM)

Hmm. How much is shipping from BBTS?

@  NightViper : (20 September 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Set of the four is still $22 at BBTS

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:00 PM)

Ramhorn is currently available from a third party seller via Amazon for $27.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Anybody have the TR PM OP trading card they don't want? I lost mine! Will pay you for it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 September 2017 - 11:35 AM)

If you don't need her I'll take her off ya.

@  BlackMax : (20 September 2017 - 10:04 AM)

When I get that power-batteryOptimus I swear I will carry it everywhere. It'll be like having a useful tool AND being six years old again all at once.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 09:58 AM)

I guess he's gone now. Oh well.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 09:56 AM)

I saw Ramhorn all over ebay for $16 a week ago or so.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 09:02 AM)

Just ordered Arcee.  I don't need her.  But she's pink.  And a robot.  A combination I love.

@  Darknova4life : (20 September 2017 - 08:57 AM)

@ Robowang, Where is TR Ramhorn available for $16?

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 07:31 AM)

Besides spotty, this is the first time I've consistently seen reships of older waves months after the next 2/3 waves show up.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2017 - 07:29 AM)

No kidding spotty. Haven't seen of the recent waves, and I desperately want a seaspray for my brother.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 07:05 AM)

Distribution is so spotty these days that I've given in and just started ordering everything. I'm probably going to wind up with a $16 Ramhorn, too.

@  MidnightFox : (19 September 2017 - 08:51 PM)

So they've been out at regular retail hit and miss for awhile.

@  MidnightFox : (19 September 2017 - 08:50 PM)

I picked up Misfire at a Target in Mississippi in mid-August.

@  Shrug : (19 September 2017 - 05:09 PM)

I think so. I checked his post history just now and he mentions buying something in North Carolina

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 September 2017 - 05:04 PM)

A U.S. Walmart?

@  Shrug : (19 September 2017 - 04:41 PM)

Saw someone found Misfire's wave at Walmart on Reddit. First normal retail sighting I've heard. I'm more hopeful now.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 September 2017 - 04:04 PM)

I'm praying I will be able to find Misfire and Slugslinger at brick and mortar somehow.

@  Xellos : (19 September 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Getting the set of 3, myself. Figure I'll keep Hot Rod in package (still my fave character), and give Kup to my nephew to help expand his current fascination with Transformers.

@  Telly : (19 September 2017 - 11:56 AM)

i got slugslinger for $30 from amazon as well. i can imagine thatll be the standard price at most places since theyll jack up the price to cover having all those kup and hot rods sitting in their stores

@  Robowang : (19 September 2017 - 08:16 AM)

Yes, I bought the $30 one on Amazon. I'd rather just pay the $30 than pay $60 and be stuck with an extra Hot Rod and Kup I can't sell.

@  Robowang : (19 September 2017 - 07:34 AM)

Slugslinger, Misfire, and Triggerhappy look amazing together. Best of Titans Return, as far as I'm concerned.

@  Noideaforaname : (18 September 2017 - 11:32 PM)

gads, why is this site so bad at loading at times?

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 September 2017 - 08:29 PM)

Thank you Hasbro for having never reissued the 2011 City Strike Destro figure...already at $32 with a week left.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 September 2017 - 07:47 PM)

Asking someone which year of "university" they're in seems so much more sophisticated than asking which year of "college" they're in.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 September 2017 - 09:04 PM)

Hooray! It only took 8 years, but laika finally learned to NOT play with the striped kitty!

@  Bass X0 : (15 September 2017 - 04:38 PM)

It was "Take Your Laserbeak To Work Day".... well, for me it was anyway. I was getting bored of being on hold when I made calls, so wanted something to relieve the boredom.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2017 - 04:25 PM)

Can you hear me now? *CRACK*

@  MEDdMI : (15 September 2017 - 04:25 PM)

Pshaw, internet! Back in my day, we wrote notes, wrapped them around rocks, and threw them at each other's heads!

@  Benbot : (15 September 2017 - 03:32 PM)

That's why I used Napster at work


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#521 Luke

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ May 10 2012, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems kind of silly to assume that this dinosaur recognition issue is so complex considering two decades ago Dinobots kept shipping for years due to popularity despite all featuring similar colors (and selling at a higher pricepoint). Then again in Euro Classics and G2.

That is the entire problem with this idea - it has been done before and done very successfully.

Well yeah... about 20 or 30 years ago, depending on which iteration you're talking about.

It is easily observable and provable fact that every level of retail toys has changed significantly since then, and it borders on willful ignorance to claim that the the marketing and distribution of decades past somehow applies to today's market.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:06 PM

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Well yeah... about 20 or 30 years ago, depending on which iteration you're talking about.

It is easily observable and provable fact that every level of retail toys has changed significantly since then, and it borders on willful ignorance to claim that the the marketing and distribution of decades past somehow applies to today's market.


Just as it requires actual willful ignorance to ignore hugely successful lines where most of the items are much more similar than the Dinobots, such as Pixar's Cars, Thomas and Friends or virtually *all* girls lines. Heck, Power Rangers differentiates itself on nothing more than colour.

The idea that you couldn't release Dinobots in mixed colour schemes G2 style and then over time get out G1 coloured repaints is silly.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

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The idea that you couldn't release Dinobots in mixed colour schemes G2 style and then over time get out G1 coloured repaints is silly.

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I don't think anybody claimed they couldn't.

Heck, I opened this line of discussion on the basis that the best way to get a set of Dinobots out to market again is to be non-traditionalist. Getting all five, in their classic grey/red/gold colourschemes is the real hurdle in today's retailer-controlled market.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Lukeblast @ May 11 2012, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well yeah... about 20 or 30 years ago, depending on which iteration you're talking about.

It is easily observable and provable fact that every level of retail toys has changed significantly since then, and it borders on willful ignorance to claim that the the marketing and distribution of decades past somehow applies to today's market.


Just as it requires actual willful ignorance to ignore hugely successful lines where most of the items are much more similar than the Dinobots, such as Pixar's Cars, Thomas and Friends or virtually *all* girls lines. Heck, Power Rangers differentiates itself on nothing more than colour.

The idea that you couldn't release Dinobots in mixed colour schemes G2 style and then over time get out G1 coloured repaints is silly.

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Who are you arguing with?

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Lukeblast @ May 11 2012, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well yeah... about 20 or 30 years ago, depending on which iteration you're talking about.

It is easily observable and provable fact that every level of retail toys has changed significantly since then, and it borders on willful ignorance to claim that the the marketing and distribution of decades past somehow applies to today's market.


Just as it requires actual willful ignorance to ignore hugely successful lines where most of the items are much more similar than the Dinobots, such as Pixar's Cars, Thomas and Friends or virtually *all* girls lines. Heck, Power Rangers differentiates itself on nothing more than colour.

All of those having significant, wildly popular, and global media exposure to drive home the idea that the similar/repainted versions are unique. Dinobots do not currently have that benefit.

Additionally, and as I noted before, customers are practically trained to see repainted cars as unique--that's most of the diecast aisle. It also fits right into the Transformers design/repaint philosophy in a way that a bunch of dinosaurs do not. The girls' lines are similar, in that customers are trained to see various Barbies (for example) that are merely outfitted in different ways as individuals.

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The idea that you couldn't release Dinobots in mixed colour schemes G2 style and then over time get out G1 coloured repaints is silly.

The suggestion was brought up, discussed, and I don't believe anyone even attempted to counter it.

Not that ANYTHING you said has a single thing to do with one word I that I said.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 02:05 AM

Yeah, it'd be one thing if Hasbro had a show called "TERRIFIC TRANSFORMIN' SUPER DINOBOTS" about a group of teenage dinorobot ninjas with attitude taking council from a floating Grand Mal. But they don't, they have a show called Transformers, which has dozens of concepts, of which the Dinobots had increasingly become marginalized over the past decade and Grimlock increasingly becoming synedochic of the Dinobots in general. We'll see what FOC does for them.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 02:54 AM

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"TERRIFIC TRANSFORMIN' SUPER DINOBOTS" about a group of teenage dinorobot ninjas with attitude taking council from a floating Grand Mal.


NOTE: I want this as a Botcon set at some point.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:44 AM

Perhaps tangential to the overall discussion, perhaps not... I speculated that perhaps the problem with Dinobots is that they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes.

Power Rangers has been brought up a few times, and I notice that the property tends to get a lot of non-media product... motorcycles and action-feature figures and entire zords on occasion. But something they almost never do is repaint the "show-Zords" outright. I've never seen it happen outside of a few TRU-exclusives in the Lost Galaxy era, and those were themselves several years old and long off the shelves.

I wonder if that isn't in the same ballpark... they repaint the figures because "the Batman effect" says you can do all kinds of crazy variants of your main character and people will accept it as whatever you intend and/or buy multiple versions of the same character. But the robots... repainting the robot and potentially getting it on the shelf next to the original version could work against them. If it's too obvious customers will assume it's the same thing, even if it isn't. Then you run the risk of thinning out the interest in the original/primary version if/when people buy the repaint instead.

Looking at the toy aisles, the stuff that gets away with repaints tends toward vehicles and "traditional" action figures. There's plenty of "creatures" in various toylines, but even when those are reused, they tend to take a break and the previous version(s) are long off the shelves. Hasbro's desires tend toward things they can repaint immediately, not stuff they have to sit on for a few years before they can reuse.

Again, I'm just speculating here. There are probably copious examples to support and dispute me. It's merely a spitballing of ideas on how things might work based on too many visits to the toy department.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:02 AM

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"TERRIFIC TRANSFORMIN' SUPER DINOBOTS" about a group of teenage dinorobot ninjas with attitude taking council from a floating Grand Mal.


NOTE: I want this as a Botcon set at some point.

And it must be accompanied by an OVA where they fight rediculous foam rubber monsters and gesticulate wildly to communicate.



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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:07 AM

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Perhaps tangential to the overall discussion, perhaps not... I speculated that perhaps the problem with Dinobots is that they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes.

I already pointed out that there are plenty of dinos in Transformers that the Dinobots could be repainted into. Overkill and Trypticon have been done, there there is Terrorsaur, Slugfest, and plenty of Dinosaur like monsters out there for retools of the Dinobots.


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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:55 AM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.


I see that on shelves every time I close my eyes.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:57 PM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:59 PM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

Straxus and Black Shadow.

Those exist, yes. Your point? Unless there was a series of blue tank all with different names clogging the shelves that I missed entirely.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:01 PM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

Straxus and Black Shadow.


You don't know who Rorza the Rocket-Cycle Racer from Rigel III is, do you.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:23 PM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

Straxus and Black Shadow.


You don't know who Rorza the Rocket-Cycle Racer from Rigel III is, do you.

Yeah I read Shortpacked! But I was trying to point out that Hasbro is more ballsey that they use to be and if Comic only bots and Japan only bots can get a chance then maybe bots like Overkill and Trypticon and other more obscure can get toys too. But not Rorza he's a tool and no one likes him.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

Straxus and Black Shadow.


You don't know who Rorza the Rocket-Cycle Racer from Rigel III is, do you.

Yeah I read Shortpacked! But I was trying to point out that Hasbro is more ballsey that they use to be and if Comic only bots and Japan only bots can get a chance then maybe bots like Overkill and Trypticon and other more obscure can get toys too. But not Rorza he's a tool and no one likes him.


But Rorza the Rocket-Cycle Racer from Rigel III isn't a comic-only bot.

He's a comic-only alien circus performer. He's a tiny fleshy dude in a horned helmet who rides a motorcycle through hoops, for peanuts.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:28 PM

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He's a comic-only alien circus performer. He's a tiny fleshy dude in a horned helmet who rides a motorcycle through hoops, for peanuts.

See total tool.

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But we're not talking about what the fiction can support but what the market can. The fiction can support "Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III," but I've never seen it on shelves.

Straxus and Black Shadow.


You don't know who Rorza the Rocket-Cycle Racer from Rigel III is, do you.

Yeah I read Shortpacked! But I was trying to point out that Hasbro is more ballsey that they use to be and if Comic only bots and Japan only bots can get a chance then maybe bots like Overkill and Trypticon and other more obscure can get toys too. But not Rorza he's a tool and no one likes him.


We did get an Overkill toy. A repaint of Grimlock sure, but that was the best that character was going to get at this point. And Trypticon got a Classics Legends toy. He really should have gotten an Ultra toy repainted from Cybertron Scourge too.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

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Perhaps tangential to the overall discussion, perhaps not... I speculated that perhaps the problem with Dinobots is that they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes.

I already pointed out that there are plenty of dinos in Transformers that the Dinobots could be repainted into. Overkill and Trypticon have been done, there there is Terrorsaur, Slugfest, and plenty of Dinosaur like monsters out there for retools of the Dinobots.

And once again, my thought was that the MOLDS could be the issue more than the colors they come in.

For the luvva Mike, you quoted me saying "they ARE recognizable and repaints would not be viewed as new characters like cars and planes" and countered that with "they could repaint them into other characters".