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@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

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@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:55 PM

Crazy or serious, make some predictions then look back to see how close you were.

People will complain about the mold, character choice or color scheme for some of the unrevealed exclusive toys. Either because they are bad choices or Hasbro should have released them at retail.

Someone at tfw2005 will complain that the exclusives are dumb overpriced repaints.

People will be jealous that the custom class figure isn't available to everyone.

There won't be any of the proposed forty Generations 2013 toys revealed.

The Combaticons, Jazz, Shockwave, Starscream and Optimus Prime toys from WFC will be hyped a lot as if they were completely new reveals. Only the brightly colored Combaticons will be released. More of the game will be shown.

Focus will be on Prime and new Prime toys, mainly Cyberverse.

Hasbro will show attendee exclusive artwork that non-attendees won't ever get to see.

Many dumb questions will be asked to Hasbro and Hasbro won't be forthcoming with informative answers.

Edited by Bass X0, 23 April 2012 - 03:47 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:56 PM

David Willis will not wear any pants.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:58 PM

Nothing from the "No Photos Allowed" panel will EVER be released because its not Bumblebee or Optimus.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

Hasbro to reveal plans for slowly releasing the FE molds through store exclusives.
New Prime molds will be shown but mostly old characters at different size classes from their previous releases.
Monkeys will fly out of David Willis' butt.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

Some ne'er-do-wells will start a huge argument at the Hasbro panel, chaos will ensue and hate will overtake the hall until Peter Cullen walks in, opens the Matrix, and cures everyone of their hate an anger. This will mark an end to the Botcon Wars and everyone will march forward to a new era of peace, happiness, and exclusives.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 23 2012, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
David Willis will not wear any pants.

But he will keep his shorts on, I hope. Well, at least as long as they don't release another Hot Shot from AEC, then all bets would be off.

While I'm pretty certain they'll show SDCC exclusives, I wonder if they'll show any NYCC stuff as well.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

If they release another AEC Hot-Shot, Willis will likely tear through any pants he's wearing.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 23 2012, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they release another AEC Hot-Shot, Willis will likely tear through any pants he's wearing.

Playable Hot Shot to be announced for Fall of Cybertron based on Armada Hot Shot! Toy revealed! David Willis asked by Hasbro to give first impressions and given the toy to take home!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

Shattered Glass Tracks will be the manliest man-bot ever.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

Bruticus to be made in very limited quantities, available on eHobby only.

Hasbro decides there's no money in toys anymore, easier to be an entertainment media company. No more transformers forever.

Someone in the club was responsible for the security leaks, and has stolen every Botcon exclusive. No more club forever.

Brian Savage now wishes to be known as Doctor Savage, and begins carrying a purple and gray cat, is only seen from behind.

... So now when none of these come to pass, I will consider Botcon a resounding success!
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Apr 23 2012, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brian Savage now wishes to be known as Doctor Savage, and begins carrying a purple and gray cat, is only seen from behind.

I'll get you next time, Primus! Next time!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:00 PM

On the bright side:
the majority of the 40 Generations will be the WFC/FOC cast. ALL OF THEM.

Kre-O Defensor and Menasor

Prime Defensor toy revealed into two sets; Cyberverse (four legion+one commander) and Mainline (four revealers+one powerizer), alongside Prime Jazz, Sideswipe, Perceptor, and Scattorshot. Magnus will get a Mainline Powerizer AND Weaponizer, and will be in the show

Reveal that Bumblebee will get his voice back

Reveal that we get a Wheeljack level in FOC with the Wreckers, and have designs for Impactor, Rotorstorm, Pyro, and Roadbuster revealed

Reveal that some of the Protectobots are in FOC

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:16 PM

lol "bright side"

I predict - yes.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:38 PM

Someone will try to get the stupid Vehicon "Steve" nickname canonized.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

This one may actually happen: All the FoC toys will have tags that say "Now Available" to much consternation.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 23 2012, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
David Willis will not wear any pants.

Well now why would--
QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Apr 23 2012, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Monkeys will fly out of David Willis' butt.

... ah, I see. Pants would just get in the way.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

You do not want to see me with pants full of monkeys.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:29 PM

My prediction is we learn of almost nothing new, except for stuff they can't take pictures of, Hasbro saving everything for a toy more general toy convention.

Edited by mignash, 23 April 2012 - 07:29 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

Predictions -

Weekday News:

*The Con exclusives are exactly who the leaked list said. Some are pleased. Some disapointed.

* The Custom class figure is cool enough to create envy.

* A couple of new Cyberverse and a couple of unseen Prime repaints are seen in the display cases as Hasbro sets up.

Weekend News:

* Prime is doing well and will introduce 1 more new charcter before the end of the season. Random 5 minutes of an upcoming episode will be shown. Arcee will yell and jumpkick someone. Rescue Bots will get a token mention but nothing else, no new toys mentioned or shown beyond the couple from Toy Fair.

* IDW is doing well and James Roberts will be cloned so MtMtE can be a weekly. Grimlock and at least one Wrecker will be seen in books before the end of the year.

* Hasbro will show a hand full of images of 3 or 4 2013 Generations figures but there will be no photographs. They will tease the idea of a second combiner but no more than that. We might get to see Grimlock. There will be 2 or three new Prime things but mostly stuff we've already seen from Japan. I'll be kinda disappointed in how little we see that's of interest to me personally but there'll be one or two pretty neat things that counter that.

* Fun Pup will show off 2 or 3 exlusives for the coming months/year and they'll be really nice figures/concepts. Though at least one will be Shattered Glass something that will be a total pass for me.

In Conclussion: There will be awsome stuff but not as much as we'd like to dream of there being... Some surprises that are promising... And an overall speculation over whether they were saving the really good stuff for San Diego.

-ZacWilliam, hopes they blow all expectations and predictions out of the water.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 23 April 2012 - 07:53 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:56 PM

We will see nothing new, Hasbro will dodge all questions about how they're handling the brand, half the previously announced toys will be cancelled, and all chances of ever getting FE Bulkhead and Optimus will disappear forever.

With expectations that low, I'm BOUND to be pleased, right?