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@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:43 AM)

Or we could go "extinct" in a Singularity, becoming one with our technology to the extent we cease to exist in our current state.

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Or we'll be killed by Skynet and unleash a plague of von Neumann probes upon the universe.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Assuming all humans leave Earth, of course. Plenty won't, or won't be able to.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Technically it could be subspecies of Homo sapiens... But after a couple thousand years away from Earth, it's kind of inevitable humanity will evolve to adapt to strange new habitats.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

We'd have to adapt to different conditions, especially when we're unable to return to Earth.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:32 AM)

I can't really see humanity in its current state if/after we "go cosmic," though. You'll have different people adapting to living in zero-G environments, on colonies on other planets that have various conditions...

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

True.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Evolution doesn't mean extinction of a previous state always, tho.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Well, humans as we know them (Homo sapiens) will probably go extinct at some point as the species evolves further. That's only if we somehow don't destroy ourselves.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Oh, humanity will go hypercritical and wipe itself out long before that's a concern.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 11:04 PM)

All we need to do is built Diebuster to haul us away from the sun

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

Okay, well all of us will be dead. Jury's out on our descendants.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

But we'll either be dead or be forced off the planet well before that point, since Earth will turn into a Venus-style hellhole in about a billion years.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

[/science nerd]

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

About five billion years, actually.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 09:38 PM)

Go check that episode of Doctor Who to see what date they said.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 09:26 PM)

We got a date for that yet? I want to clear my schedule to watch it.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 08:46 PM)

There are some more immediate doomsday scenarios on a more local level, like the sun expanding and consuming us all.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 08:25 PM)

In a few trillion years, there's going to be a Big Rip, a heat death, a Big Crunch or a Big Bounce, so- wait, you're talking about Stargate.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 08:20 PM)

I just wish Universe had a conclusive ending...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 07:53 PM)

They had to try something new, and it didn't work.

@  Echowarrior : (25 April 2017 - 07:31 PM)

SG-1 was a good series. Atlantis too. Universe...dear god was that ever a misfire.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 02:56 PM)

Started watching SG-1 right before season 9. The Stargate were the last live action series that could hold my attention week to week.

@  Rycochet : (25 April 2017 - 02:52 PM)

Sg1 really lost it's appeal once they got too far into the ancients/ascended plotlines.

@  Gizmoboy : (25 April 2017 - 02:48 PM)

I enjoyed the movie. Never got into the TV Series.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 02:19 PM)

About twenty since I cared. :D :D :D

@  Whirl Maximus : (25 April 2017 - 01:50 PM)

ten years since Stargate SG1 ended.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (25 April 2017 - 11:05 AM)

it's all about that sweet, savory monosodium glutamate!

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

If you're eating cheap Chinese, nutritional value is probably not the first thing on your mind.

@  Paladin : (25 April 2017 - 10:56 AM)

depends on where you get them from, but sometimes the paper has more nutritional value.

@  Robowang : (25 April 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I have actually eaten the cookie without opening it before. I didn't realize it until my wife asked what my fortune was.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 09:18 AM)

It's like the fortune cookies. After getting so many over the years I just barely notice them.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM)

Sorry, yeah, I also dislike any policy which involves including putting Optimus Prime in teriyaki chicken.

@  unluckiness : (25 April 2017 - 09:13 AM)

That sounds like an unfair assessment of the teriyaki chicken.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:10 AM)

Yeah but there's no way they weren't designing it with the Optimus Maximus or whatever in mind. That said I could just be annoyed because I dislike the "every line must have at least one Optimus Prime in there somewhere" policy that Hasbro seems to have.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:12 PM

I will say, that due to the IDW comics, I want him in the show now. Preferably as a commanche or a cybertronian gunship. But with the IDW personality, but instead of just being a jerk, he was driven insane when his brother, Roadbuster, died.

I think having someone who only Ultra Magnus, not Prime, can keep in line would be cool.

Plus, rarely-used character who is getting the spotlight.

What do you guys think he should be like?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:42 PM

make him a dork ... I'm really like'n How Prime is switching up the characters from how they were 'back in my day.' as it were
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 21 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
make him a dork ... I'm really like'n How Prime is switching up the characters from how they were 'back in my day.' as it were
Well, Whirl hasn't really been used often. So, he doesn't have a set personality, so having the IDW one become the standard would be cool.

Plus, the Prime Team seems to use lesser characters as the norm once they got the required six (Prime, BB, Ratchet, Megs, Scream, Soundwave) out of the way.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

I don't know if his so-said 'lack' of use would make the IDW characterization anymore plausible a default than his g1 tech spec, or comic portrayals though. I - like I said, would rather they start from an entirely new point.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Apr 21 2012, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know if his so-said 'lack' of use would make the IDW characterization anymore plausible a default than his g1 tech spec, or comic portrayals though. I - like I said, would rather they start from an entirely new point.
I say lack as in lack of characterization. He's been in every major comics series (G1, DW, IDW), but only in IDW did he become distinct.

Plus, it'd throw in some instability for the autobots that wouldn't smooth over easily.

Still, I see your point. Maybe have some mix of the ROTF Whirl as well?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:28 PM

hey why not?

lets make him Shockwave's brother too - that'll be a twist
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

Being as there's only one helicopter for him to be a repaint of, he'd be a she.

With extremely confusing spider legs on her back, since she probably wouldn't turn into a spider anymore.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:35 PM

Given that we're working with CGI, the best we can probably hope for at this point is a gunship rendition of the Huey clones that have been cropping up;* otherwise, they'd have to pay for a brand new vehicle model as well rather than just altering an existing one.

With Whirl, his characterization could be that he's seen and done so much that he can never go back to being a civilian.

Optimus has probably read everything on Project Gutenberg.

Ratchet loves to tinker.

Arcee likes long drives.

Bee is a gamer.

Bulkhead enjoys music.

Wheeljack is in to sports.

But Whirl? Dude goes stir crazy unless there's some action. If he's not dismembering Vehicons, he just doesn't know what to do with himself.

Maybe pair him up with Fowler as a study in contrasts: Fowler is a foodie who enjoys long vacations, making him Whirl's polar opposite.









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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Apr 21 2012, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given that we're working with CGI, the best we can probably hope for at this point is a gunship rendition of the Huey clones that have been cropping up;* otherwise, they'd have to pay for a brand new vehicle model as well rather than just altering an existing one.

With Whirl, his characterization could be that he's seen and done so much that he can never go back to being a civilian.

Optimus has probably read everything on Project Gutenberg.

Ratchet loves to tinker.

Arcee likes long drives.

Bee is a gamer.

Bulkhead enjoys music.

Wheeljack is in to sports.

But Whirl? Dude goes stir crazy unless there's some action. If he's not dismembering Vehicons, he just doesn't know what to do with himself.

Maybe pair him up with Fowler as a study in contrasts: Fowler is a foodie who enjoys long vacations, making him Whirl's polar opposite.









*In real life, the UH-1 Iroquois come in two flavors: "slicks", which had no wings, and "gunships", which did. Gunships have two hard mounts on each wing, enabling them to carry TOW anti-tank missiles, rocket pods, or gun pods (self-contained machine guns with ammo). They were originally created by the United States military to perform air strikes and escort their slick brethren, and ultimately served as a stopgap until the AH-1 Cobra was ready for active-duty service.
Based on my idea, if fused with yours, he sort of inherited Roadbuster's personality when Roadbuster died?

Sounds interesting.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:42 AM

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

Eh?

Roadbuster's brother?

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Apr 22 2012, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh?

Roadbuster's brother?
In the sense that they were from the same batch of protoforms, and immediately became friends, and later on, brothers.