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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:33 AM


Just a heads up, the TRANSFORMERS facebook page is taking questions for Furman till tomarrow noon. They will be answered next week apparently.

Here's the link:
https://www.facebook.com/transformers


-ZacWilliam, they could use a few more intelligent/non-insulting questions from what I can see.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:37 AM

Has anyone yet asked whether it's better to fight and die, or to live with the knowledge that you ran?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:38 AM

Has Furman ever actually SEEN a vast, predatory bird?

Seriously though, I'd have to ponder a serious question.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:40 AM

Okay, there has to be somebody to ask him those things.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:45 AM

Can someone ask him to stop using the same two or three stories over and over again?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 19 2012, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can someone ask him to stop using the same two or three stories over and over again?


If they wanted to over generalize greatly and be kinda insulting to someone whose nice enough to take questions for the fandom, sure.


-ZacWilliam, doesn't agree with your statement, but even if you're firmly not a fan of someone's output doesn't mean it's ok to be rude.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

This is going to be really controversial for me to say, but let me just put this out there: Just because a person is perceived as having a lofty position does not mean you shouldn't treat them as if they were a human being.

It'd be one thing if we were talking about somebody who maybe punched everyone in the face. But this is just a writer, dude. Even the worst story about toy robots doesn't justify being you being a jerkwad to them.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:09 PM

This is Simon Furman we're talking about here, not John Byrne. So let's give the guy some respect here.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:10 PM

I was being somewhat sarcastic... but there would be a hell lot more comments like mine if it was Bay... and no one would say "Show him some respect."

I -still- can't fathom why Furman is so idolized.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 19 2012, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was being somewhat sarcastic... but there would be a hell lot more comments like mine if it was Bay... and no one would say "Show him some respect."

I -still- can't fathom why Furman is so idolized.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:11 AM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 19 2012, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There would be a hell lot more comments like mine if it was Bay... and no one would say "Show him some respect."

I -still- can't fathom why Furman is so idolized.


1) I don't think "no-one" part is true. Yes there'd likely be a lot more rudeness because there are a lot more people a lot more upset about his output, but I'd like to believe there's a decent portion of the fandom mature enough not to be asses and jerks to him over it. Rudeness like that never does anything but make the fandom look terrible, and there are plenty of us who know that.

2) You can't fathom folks really enjoying something that isn't to your personal taste? The world must baffle you frequently then.


-ZacWilliam, I enjoy Furman. He's not a perfect writter, no. But he's told some really great G1 stories over the years and created, for all intents, a number of my favorite characters ever in those stories. The man's done some fun, classic stuff. And he's been a huge part of TF for years, you don't have to "idolize" him or be burried in nostalgia to be a fan.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 20 April 2012 - 05:17 AM.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:21 AM

I didn't say I can't see why people enjoy him. As much as I think he is a bad writer.. I have enjoyed some of his stories.

However he -is- Idolized... which is different.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:35 AM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 20 2012, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However he -is- Idolized... which is different.


Example?


-ZacWilliam, I'd call him popular, sure, one of the most popular TF writers, but can't say I've ever seen anything suggesting "idolized".
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:10 AM

Agreed Zac. Idolized? Really? I'd go with well-regarded and respected, but idolized? Not in any significant fashion.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:24 AM

Well, the night of the Hall of Fame this year he'll be literally idolized, but other than that...

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:29 AM

You should jump over to Transfans then. Haven't been there for years due to darn Websense blocking it, though. And for the record, I too used to idolize Furman. These days, we do have TF comic writers as good as him, but during DW and early IDW, that certainly wasn't so.

But yeah, liked that place. We got #1 Furmanite Fan badges! Those were the days. icon-fire.gif

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Apr 19 2012, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has Furman ever actually SEEN a vast, predatory bird?

Seriously though, I'd have to ponder a serious question.


Surely, if he ever went to a zoo and checked out the eagles.

But if even he hasn't, then what chance do we have?! ... Of ever seeing one.

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 20 2012, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't say I can't see why people enjoy him. As much as I think he is a bad writer.. I have enjoyed some of his stories.

However he -is- Idolized... which is different.


Heretic! You shall be burned alive in front of my life-sized idol to appease the anger of the Great One!

Edited by BB Shockwave, 20 April 2012 - 09:36 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:40 AM

I dunno if an Eagle is trouly VAST enough. Perhaps one of those LOTR Eagles that carried Gandalf around icon-fire.gif

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:21 PM

For my own part, while I really enjoy Furman's stuff, I've always preferred Budiansky.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Apr 20 2012, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was being somewhat sarcastic... but there would be a hell lot more comments like mine if it was Bay... and no one would say "Show him some respect."

I -still- can't fathom why Furman is so idolized.

Disagreements over the use of the term idolized aside, here's a few reasons:

1) He's been around a long time
2) He wrote nearly all of the decent G1 fiction back in the day (although in fairness to the other writers, he also had a lot less constraints than most did)
3) He's always had a lot of genuine dedication to both the brand and the fans

And on a more personal level, I've been attending TF conventions around the world since 2003. Simon has been at the majority of them, and on each occasion I've never seen him be less than polite, respectful and patient toward everyone - even the fans that wouldn't look out of place in a Shortpacked strip - and for what he costs as a guest, it can't be said he's only in it for the money. Even after the convention's closed he'll be in the bar socialising with the attendees until the early hours. Regardless of his writing abilities (which admittedly can be hit or miss), he's one of the most down-to-earth, sincere and genuinely nice blokes I've ever met. For that alone he'll get more respect from me than a lot of people do.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Superb post S-17. Thank you.

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Apr 20 2012, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For my own part, while I really enjoy Furman's stuff, I've always preferred Budiansky.

Budiansky deserves a hell of a lot more credit than he often gets.

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