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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#1 Lizard King

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:29 PM

Here is confirmation that the movie is happening, along with a couple other tidbits

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE(Lizard King @ Apr 13 2012, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is confirmation that the movie is happening, along with a couple other tidbits

Been known for awhile that it was on Marvels to-do list, along with Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, the Inhumans, and all the sequels (Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Captain America 2)

Still good to see them talk about it more.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:04 AM

Still can't believe that it's happening.



Somewhat disappointing to see how many people are bewildered by the choice, but I'm looking forward to this above all other Marvel movies. Which, I hope, says quite a lot.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:07 AM

Given the introduction of the cosmic side of the Marvel movie-verse, Guardians is kind of a no brainer.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:19 AM

I still think this property is too esoteric for your average comic-movie-going audience. Despite whether the film ends up being awesome or not, I fully expect it to fail miserably at the box office.

Ant-Man, too.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

Really hope Phyla makes it for the movie line up, though I kind of doubt it. I'm sure they want to hold off on the Captain Marvel motif for a stand-alone release in the future. Would Phyla as Quasar be too convoluted for a movie plot?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 15 2012, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this property is too esoteric for your average comic-movie-going audience. Despite whether the film ends up being awesome or not, I fully expect it to fail miserably at the box office.

Ant-Man, too.


I think it will do decently, if only becuase Marvel Studios is becoming the Pixar of Superhero films. I also think it will do better then Ant-Man since ant-mans rather boring with few of his own good stories; while Guardians is a Superhero Space Opera that is a gateway into introducing other Space based characters.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE(Betty Nor @ Jul 15 2012, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still think this property is too esoteric for your average comic-movie-going audience. Despite whether the film ends up being awesome or not, I fully expect it to fail miserably at the box office.


Yeah. I held the belief that it was far too esoteric to even be made into a movie, in the first place.

A really solid cast, or at least one with appeal to the general public, might go a long way towards selling this.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:59 AM

Yes, but Pixar releases aren't as prevalent as the amount of Marvel movies that the studios are trying to make. Seems more like running the property into the ground trying to cash in while the property is still hot. I'd fully expect audiences to burn out on stuff like this (and Ant-Man) than develop some sort of new-found brand-loyalty. And brand-loyalty to Marvel is about the only thing GotG can depend on to try to get butts in the seats since there's really no "brand-recognition" for a property as obscure as GotG.

Also, GotG seems too weird (like Green Lantern once you get into the whole "GL Corps" thing) to really resonate with the average movie-goer. Yes, I keep hearing how awesome GotG is and how great the characters are, blah blah blah, but when I look at that promotional art, I don't feel compelled to see the film. It just looks like it's trying too hard to "rock" and forgetting the fact that all of those characters look really weird.

I'm a Marvel fan, and even I have no desire to see this film.

If this property managed to be successfully introduced as a TV show or something, where it could build up the quality of backstory/characterisation/plot-lines that comic fans keep hollering about, then I could see it making a mediocre-at-best presence in the cinema (like Serenity), but as is, it's a rare bird (read: Star Wars) that can one-off the intricacy of a Space Opera in a 2 hour film.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:08 AM

Folks are worrying about nothing.

Iron Man and Thor had NO public fandom/attraction outside of Comic Geeks and folks said the exact some things about them that you'r saying about the Guardians.

Turn out an Awesome film, and turn out a film that you've publicly promoted the heck out of as 1) part of a lineage of these epic Marvel films that have been building an unprecedented universe and 2) a prequel to Avengers 2 likely coming the next year.

People will GO.

Make a good movie.

And Make a movie that people know is a vital link to Avengers 2.

It will do great.


-ZacWilliam, loves these Guardians.read "Conquest: Starlord" mini and the recent Guardians series. Fun stuff.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 15 2012, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Make a movie that people know is a vital link to Avengers 2.


That's a really key point there. I know a number of people who only bothered with Thor and Hulk because they knew they would have some link to Avengers.

Have the Guardians encounter HIGHLIGHT to view:
Thanos on his way to Earth and you've got a good hook to grab that audience.

Edited by Shattered, 15 July 2012 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

Whether or not it's a commercial success in the future can't deter the reality that it's being made now and there's a high probability that I will enjoy it immensely.

Neener.

And hey, a line of Guardians of the Galaxy toys! That's pretty neat. Finally, a Gamora.

Edited by Strafe, 15 July 2012 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE(Strafe @ Jul 15 2012, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And hey, a line of Guardians of the Galaxy toys! That's pretty neat. Finally, a Gamora.

Just one. Shortpacked. Have fun finding her.

On subject, the Avengers tie in is what will sell this movie more than anything. The entire world knows the Avengers now. That in itself is telling seeing as the Avengers were not in the public eye at all before all this began.
Marvel built up the hype machine and delivered on the hype. That red logo will put asses in seats for even a few years of bad movies.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jul 15 2012, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Iron Man and Thor had NO public fandom/attraction outside of Comic Geeks and folks said the exact some things about them that you'r saying about the Guardians.


I dunno. I don't read comic books, but I was still reasonably familiar with Iron Man, and even the Marvel version of Thor, long before seeing those movies. I've never even heard of this one at all, though. I'll probably still see it, 'cuz why not, but if I haven't heard of it (as someone who doesn't read comics, but is probably a little more familiar with them than most non-comic readers) then I'd assume most others haven't, either. Even if Iron Man wasn't as well-known to the general public as a hero like Spider-Man or the X-Men, most people have at least still heard of him; and RDJ was probably enough to draw a ton of people to the first film to get hooked, as well. Not sure about this one.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE(DrSpengler @ Jul 15 2012, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the few Marvel properties I know positively NOTHING about and it is embarassing. They aren't NEW, right? They've been around a long time, right? It's just... weird, that in all the decades I've been reading comics and throughout my childhood when I collected every marvel trading card I could get my mits on... I never encountered any of these guys.


Yes and no.

If you were a fan in the 70s-90s you should know the name at least. If you started collecting after that they only got big again recently.

The concept of the Guardians of the Galaxy has been around a long time, but the current team is pretty new.

When they were originally introduced way back in the Silver Age the Guardians were a cosmic team from the far future.(30th Century? I forget). They were made up of the last survivors of various Earth colonies that had different "powers" based on their adaptations to their homeworlds. This team had a lot of Avengers connections/crossovers, including playing a big part in the classic Korvak Saga (one of the most famous Silver Age Avengers stories).

THAT Guardians of the Galaxy had their own series in the 1990s (Same launch window as the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider and those books.) It was decently fun and pretty popular, especially early on and had a good long run for a book in those years.

THIS team of Guardians, set in the modern day Marvel Universe, is a recent formation. Though all the characters are long time existing characters. Rocket Racoon is from the Silver Age Incredible Hulk, Star Lord has a long history (and even a miniseries by Timothy Zahn under his belt) , Groot was a Pre-Marvel Timely Comics Monster and so on.

This new team first formed in "Annihilation: Conquest Starlord" miniseries a couple years ago (Great mini) and eventually got their own book. There we're a number of crossovers between that book and the Classic old Guardians team. That book sadly ended too young in the midst of a mess of (pretty decent actually) Cosmic crossover events but it was pretty popular with fans who read it and a good fun read. They and their members won enough popularity in to make a number of appearences recently, especially in The new Avengers Assemble book.


-ZacWilliam, hope they go with Starlords modern costume, love the helmet.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

Never would have happened but I would have been pretty damn happy to see Vance Astro in the screen if only for a sorta link to the New Warriors.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:01 PM

Do you guys not understand that GOTG is just cool as hug? If you're a science fiction fan, you'll eat this jive up. Not only that, but anything Marvel sells these days. I have nothing but faith in this movie. Marvel hasn't hugged up yet, and I don't see them hugging up any time soon.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:31 PM

This is a way easier sell than Thor or Captain America actually. Thor was a space viking, Captain America was injected with science juice that made him super great and he punches nazis named silly things and he gets frozen in ice for 70 years.

All you need to motivate the existence of GOTG is "sci-fi adventure movie", they don't have to mention superheroes since there technically aren't any. Star Wars is still going, Star Wars is weird as hug, why does that guy look like a dog? How do they know what he is saying? Is that guy a fish? Worm the size of a small moon? Why not!

All it has to do is to be good.

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#19 Lizard King

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:31 PM

Exactly

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

I'm not sure I'd say this is an easier sell than a dude named Captain American beating up Nazis, lol. But yeah, marketed like that I suppose it could draw in a certain non-comic crowd. They're going to have make it quite good, though.