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@  Dracula : (24 April 2017 - 04:10 PM)

bot can not be straight

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)

#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.


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#1 (Deactivated) Sodomous Prime

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

Would you like another TF "build it figure"?

I ask this question because last week. I noticed Marvel was still doing the "build it figure" parts inside other toy packages thing.

yes,I don't see the harm in it,as it's free & included inside another TF toy I buy.

Transmute was a bit of a dissapointment & rather a obsecure/un-popular/lack-luster choice.

I'd prefer the "build it figure" transform into a alt mode. even if it's a extremly simplistic transformation challenge.
I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

I prefer another TF "Build it figure" that's a bit more popular & less obsecure. like as follows: G-1 Arcee,G-1 Ravage,Alpha Trion,G-1 Galvatron,G-1 Grimlock

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:52 PM

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I'd like the build it figure to be at least voyager sized,maybe bigger. instead of including the "build it figure" in 6 different TF toy packages,how about including the parts in 10 different TF toys packages.

While I like the idea, it would be especially difficult to implement for a toy that has to transform. Also, voyagers are quite a bit larger than a deluxe, so a voyager-sized toy would be a lot of extra plastic (and expense). Remember, even split among ten toys, a $20 toy is adding roughly $2 to the cost of every other toy, for an accessory that will be useless to the vast majority of toy buyers who won't buy nearly enough toys to complete the set.

This also works directly against the current case-assignment model in which not all toys are shipped in even amounts. You are literally guaranteeing wasted parts if there are more arms out there than legs.

And, all that's for a voyager toy that will likely be significantly compromised by the need to be splittable into 10 roughly-equal parts.

*edit* But, to be clear, I'd love the idea if it could actually be done at negligible extra cost to the base toy, and be meaningfully completeable, and produce a decent (or at least interesting) toy in the end. I'd imagine that those standards are impossible to meet, but conceptually it would be great fun, I think.

*edit*edit* A thought -- Micromaster combiners would ship well this way. That way, you're not getting a completely useless part even if you never get the set, but the set gives you something cool, too. Perhaps the combiner kibble could be fashioned to also be weapons for the main toys, so that the kibble bits could be their own pack-in component.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:04 PM

Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:15 PM

The figures we got the parts in would either have to be 100% brand new or different enough from previous releases to justify making the purchase.

What ruined the Beast Wars anniversary packs for me was the fact that I already had the vintage releases of a few of the figures in the assortment.

Thus, I was faced with the prospect of either not getting everyone and so not getting all of the parts for Transmutate or getting all the parts for Transmutate but having duplicate figures.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:20 PM

I just can't see it working for Transformers.



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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:23 PM

I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

On the other hand you could go the "Build and Action Master" route and take any character and design them like you would any modern action figure but it would be a posable, non transforming representation with good articulation, good paint and good detail.



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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:36 PM

I want Fall of Cybertron Build A Figures. You buy a FoC figure and get a custom part that can be used to make one of the multiplayer body types. Each of the classes- scientist, scout, soldier and leader could be broken into 4 parts that you could mix and match. The transformations would have to be semi-compatible, but the accessories (wings, wheels, guns, spoilers, heads, etc.) could all be on 5 mm pegs and c-clips so you could spread them out.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:39 AM

Autobot X works for me.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:17 AM

Do it like they are the gum with Fort Max. Release each limb as a base for the Cyberverse dudes and then the combined mode is a 3ft tall Fort Max....

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:43 AM

id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:17 AM

QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Apr 10 2012, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id take a build-a-figure PRIME Unicron plzkthx


Prime Unicron is a Cyberverse playset just waiting to happen so I doubt it.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.

This basically how I feel too.

I only bought 3 of the 10th ann BW figures because that's all I needed so I never got a whole Transmutate. And I don't buy figures that I don't need or want, so a BAF wouldn't really be an inducement for me to buy any more figures.

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Apr 9 2012, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be pretty neat. I also think it could be done with a character that a lot of people want but wouldn't be practical to try to sell on its own.

I know the Quintessons are pretty much shunted out of the mythos these days, but that kind of non transforming character would be an ideal candidate for a build a figure. A face and body slice in 5 different Generations figures that you'd build into a Quintesson would be quite cool. Imagine if Kup, Hot Rod, Cyclonus, Scourge and Wreck-Gar all came with a part. That would be thematic and figures that everyone would want. And there's really not a whole lot of engineering that needs to go into making 5 faces and a back that snaps onto identical backs with other faces.

This though, would be a good idea! I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.



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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

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I've always thought that Death's Head would have been a good BAF too.


Well, we're getting a non-BAF Death's Head from the Marvel toy line next year.

Good enough, yes?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

I could be interested in build-a-figure. I didn't get Transmutate because 1) don't really like Transmutate and 2) didn't buy any of that series of BW figures. But overall I approve of the idea.

I did end up with some odds and ends of BAF that I'd never complete. For example I think I got a Pitt arm or leg when I bought Madman from some "Legendary Heroes" type series. Ended up finding someone who wanted it, I just wanted to see it go to a good home instead of throwing it out.

I don't approve of BAF if it noticeably raises the cost of the figure.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:37 PM

yeah I'd rather they gave us a set of figures that were completely independent... but then have mail away "gestalt parts" that you'd use these things called robot points for...

you'd cut them off the back of the cards and mail them in if you got the whole set and hasbro would ship you out..oh i don't know:

A head, Set of Shoulder extensions, chest plate, fists and forearms, feet and thighs.. oh and a real big gun
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Apr 10 2012, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

This would probably work more better... If you had that a pack in weapon, that could mix and match with other weapons. Sort of like Energon. But done a bit slightly better than that.

I mean the weapons were just designed to peg to each other. Actually combinable weapons. To make something that actually looks like a larger weapons would be cool.


As for a buld a figure. It'd have to be designed to be sturdier than a normal tf. Which I figure would make transformation more taxing and such.


It would be neat if we got a customizable tf though. Swappable heads and weapons. To make different characters.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE(Servitor 2152 @ Apr 10 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Smitty @ Apr 10 2012, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aren't they making a BaF Bruticus?


If by BaF you mean "five separate Deluxes that all peg together into one giant figure", then yes. He's not a random body part packaged with a completely unrelated figure, a la Transmutate, the Marvel Legends BaFs or the Star Wars Create-A-Droid series.

I know all that. My point is BaFs would not work well with Transformers and why what we have so may price points do we need BaFs to get bigger bots?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE(Gryllid @ Apr 9 2012, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Build-a-figures are only fun if I were going to buy all the necessary toys anyway, or maybe all but one. I'm not a completist in any toy line anymore, so BAFs just mean I end up with a bunch of parts. I'd rather they just, you know, sell the toy individually and let me buy it or not.

I can still sort of understand the desire, though -- kind of like how I miss Robot Points, even though you just ended up paying more than the toy is is worth anyway.


Totally agreed... although if they ever did it again I probably ~would~ just go for it, but I'm quite easy to entice with ~any~ plastic robots... probably why I have like 6 different movie-mold 'Bees.

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