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@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.


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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:24 PM

Is anyone watching this amazing show? Unlike most shows that come on, I feel compelled to try to figure out what's going on and scour each scene for clues or hints.

My fear is that this show is too smart for viewers and will go the way of Journeyman and leave us unfulfilled.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:40 PM

Hadn't heard of it. I fell out of the habit of keeping track of new TV shows a few years ago. Since then I've mostly heard about them after the fact, and bought or rented them on Blu-Ray or DVD if they sounded interesting. It airs on Global up here; I'll have to see if there are any past episode recordings stored in Bell's free on-demand database. The description on Wikipedia reminds me a bit of Charlie Jade, another parallel universe mystery series from 2005. That one didn't last too long; I don't think it even made it to 2006, lol.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

It's on Hulu but I don't think you get that up there. Maybe if you proxy it or something but I really don't know much about that. It's only 6 episodes in so it's early enough to get caught up on. It doesn't make my jaw drop when I watch it, but there's a lot of care in the production.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:07 PM

I've only seen the first episode, but it gave me everything I wanted out of the concept.

Its amazing and I look forward to watching the rest of them.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:25 PM

It's an interesting show and we're enjoying watching it, but it's telegraphed so obviously that neither reality is the real one that I think it takes a bit of fun out of the "Which one is the hallucination?" hook.

I'm a bit surprised that there's been more "one world gives a vague dream-logic hint about the other" mystery-solving than "clues from one world help him solve mysteries in the other". It makes things less predictable, I guess, but it also means that the episodes don't have to be written as cleverly as I was expecting them to be.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Apr 7 2012, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My fear is that this show is too smart for viewers and will go the way of Journeyman and leave us unfulfilled.


When I saw the commercial for it many weeks back for the first time, I was thinking the same way. It looks too high concept to last. Actually, that feeling was so strong I kinda disregarded it entirely and forgot it was happening until you posted this.

Why yes, I am part of the problem.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:17 PM

So the finale is next week. Not the season finale because NBC has decided that America is too dumb for a good show that makes you think.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

Hey! I was right!

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

I worry we won't get any closure on the story. Looks like we'll probably be wrapping up the whole accident conspiracy thing but I don't see them actually telling us what's going on with the two worlds. Maybe when the show's confirmed cancelled the creator can just tell us what the secret was.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:52 AM

It was confirmed a week ago according to this site

http://tvline.com/20...r-chelsea-bent/

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:16 AM

Jesus Christ.

That's rough.

#12 Kalidor

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE(ExVee @ May 17 2012, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey! I was right!


Yeah, did you read my first post? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:25 AM

I don't like how easy it is to be a modern day soothsayer when it comes to tv.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 12:27 PM

Thats a shame, I'm looking for something to watch. The only show I'm enjoying just now is Game of Thrones. Journeyman was an awesome show.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:42 PM

Journeyman rocked! Still no home video release...

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:14 PM

So what you guys are saying is I shouldn't bother checking this out as it'll just piss me off?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

I wish Lost had been cancelled after the 1st season.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ May 18 2012, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what you guys are saying is I shouldn't bother checking this out as it'll just piss me off?



I'll let you know Thursday. But I guess I'm thinking of it as a 13 part mini series.



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Posted 18 May 2012 - 04:07 PM

Definitely let me know. I was thinking of trying it out the other day but if it just suddenly ends with no closure? Yeah, screw that noise.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:52 PM

There was enough of a finishing point to make it worth watching, Cheets.

Honestly, this was pretty much the ending I was expecting.

HIGHLIGHT to view:
That both realities were false and he'd wake up in a third one.

Is the third one the actual reality? Well the way it ended, I guess so. But I imagine if there had been a second season, we'd have that shattered since the lead up with the shrink could be read as though he was generating this third reality in his mind and not really "waking up".

Also, I do wish that there was more to this third reality than just waking up from a dream. Negating EVERYTHING that he experiencing in the dreams, eh. Not a big fan. I would have preferred that the accident still happened, but he was the most seriously injured. And in a coma. All the various plots with his wife, son, boss, partners, etc could have been his subconscious reacting to the real world. Ie, when his son visited him, he'd dream he was with Rex. When his wife visited, he'd dream about Hannah. When he overheard the chief say something about the accident, he'd dream of the conspiracy against him.


But... It was an ending. Which is better than I had expected.

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