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@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 09:27 PM)

giggity

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 08:44 PM)

TR Astrotrain can be remarkably straight.

@  Dracula : (24 April 2017 - 04:10 PM)

bot can not be straight

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)

#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.


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#1 Philister

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:10 AM


For more pics, click on the image above

Prelude: Many thanks to my good buddy James aka Caked-Up, who gave me Soundwave here for my birthday this year.

Robot Mode: First off, Prime Soundwave very closely resembles the character we see on the TV screen, to get that out of the way. Some details may be off, but overall the likeness is spot on. No complaints on that front. And while the resemblance to either G1 Soundwave (the original) or War for Cybertron Soundwave (who's supposed to be the same guy) is very much non-existent, I do not have a problem with that. Prime Soundwave is his own character and he looks very cool.

Second, who here remembers the Breast Force? Yes, there actually was an official Transformes subgroup called Breast Force. They appeared (naturally) in Japan as part of the Victory toyline and Prime Soundwave here is an honorary member. Just like those ill-named robots of yore, he has a smaller partner integrated into his chest, Laserbeak. Unlike the cassette tapes of G1 days, Laserbeak actually becomes part of his chest here instead of just being inside it. The design here is very nicely done as Soundwave manages to look good with and without the bird-chestplate. Laserbeak himself is a rather simplified version of a robotic bird and can't do much more than flap his wings a bit, but as an extra for Soundwave he works very well.

Soundwave does have some problems, though. First off, the head. It looks very nice, no doubt, but it's a crime in my opinion that his big face plate is just painted instead of transparent with light piping. It's supposed to light up, people. I have no doubt that Reprolabels will sooner or later bring out a face sticker for Soundwave (possibly several), but this was a missed opportunity right here.

Second flaw, the legs. While Soundwave has nicely articulated arms (no small feat considering they are the wings of his alternate mode), the legs are a different matter. They can move freely at the hip, but the knees are backwards-bending and move only very, very little. Which makes dynamic poses rather difficult for this guy. One might argue that Soundwave isn't supposed to pose dramatically, he's supposed to stand in the background and look menacing, but still. More leg movement would have been appreciated.

Overall Soundwave is a very cool-looking robot who nicely portrays the TV character, but with (I believe) some simple changes he could have been a lot better.

Alternate Mode: Soundwave transforms into a so-called UAV, an unmanned aerial vehicle strongly resembling a Predator drone (as seen in the first live-action Transformers movie). The positive side here are the wings, which very nicely convert from the robot mode arms, and the front portion, which is formed from the robot legs. Sadly the rest of the vehicle is not up to par, as the middle and rear of the jet retains the ?alien tech? look of the robot mode and doesn?t really fit with the rest. There are no obvious robot bits, but it still looks more like an alien space craft than a man-made recon drone.

The drone has a front landing gear, but the rear end rests on parts of the robot mode. Also, Laserbeak can either remain integrated into Soundwave?s chest (now the lower rear of the drone) or be attached to the top of the drone. The latter looks cool, but makes it look even more alien than it already is. So bottom line: a functional vehicle mode that nicely disguises the robot, but with some shortcomings.

Remarks: Ever since Movie Bumblebee, it seems to have become hip to include at least one non-verbal character on each team who communicates only through sound bites, if at all. Soundwave has yet to speak in Transformers Prime, though he does manage to be pretty cool regardless and established himself as a heavyweight by soundly humiliating Airracchnid during her short-lived attempt at Decepticon leadership. Here?s hoping he?ll do more of that in season 2 and less standing-around on the bridge of the Nemesis.

Soundwave as a toy is really a bit of a mixed blessing. The emphasis here was clearly on bringing the cool look of the robot from the TV series into toy form and in that it succeeds. Soundwave looks really cool as a robot and while the drone mode has some short comings, it still looks good. Unfortunately Soundwave also comes with several drawbacks that, in my mind, could have been avoided. Little things like the face-screen having no light piping gimmick, only half a landing gear in vehicle mode, or the lack of proper leg articulation in robot mode. Little things all, but they add up. So in closing I?d say yes, you should get Soundwave, but more because he?s part of the cartoon?s main cast rather than the toy?s own merits.

Rating: B-

#2 mx-01 archon

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.

#3 DINOBOT SLUDGE

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:49 AM

His face isn't clear? WTF
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:57 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Apr 4 2012, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His face isn't clear? WTF


Truth be told I can't determine for myself if it is or isn't. I do wish it had light piping though.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Apr 3 2012, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Philister @ Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only half a landing gear in vehicle mode


That's probably accurate to the real-life UAV.

RotF Skystalker/Sunspot is the same way.


Very true for Skystalker, but I saw one of these parked on the flight line at the 2010 Jacksonville Air Show and it has landing gear so I am kind of sad they couldn't put two more wheels somewhere.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

His lightpipe piece is moulded in dark gray plastic with silver paint on it, and his face area is painted as a seperate application with semi gloss black, possibly transparent.

They could have moulded his lightpipe peice in a clear color, and just paint his face the same way, but leave an unpainted 'soundwave' light bar accross it.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:41 PM

I guess I just assumed he would have the light piping. Can't think of a figure where it would have ever made more sense. Naturally I am sure that is why he doesn't have it.
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#8 Llwynoh

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:47 PM

Yeah, confused me too, I took his head apart for detailing, and he was clearly engineered to have a light pipe effect.