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@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:43 AM)

Or we could go "extinct" in a Singularity, becoming one with our technology to the extent we cease to exist in our current state.

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Or we'll be killed by Skynet and unleash a plague of von Neumann probes upon the universe.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Assuming all humans leave Earth, of course. Plenty won't, or won't be able to.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Technically it could be subspecies of Homo sapiens... But after a couple thousand years away from Earth, it's kind of inevitable humanity will evolve to adapt to strange new habitats.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

We'd have to adapt to different conditions, especially when we're unable to return to Earth.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:32 AM)

I can't really see humanity in its current state if/after we "go cosmic," though. You'll have different people adapting to living in zero-G environments, on colonies on other planets that have various conditions...

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

True.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Evolution doesn't mean extinction of a previous state always, tho.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Well, humans as we know them (Homo sapiens) will probably go extinct at some point as the species evolves further. That's only if we somehow don't destroy ourselves.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Oh, humanity will go hypercritical and wipe itself out long before that's a concern.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 11:04 PM)

All we need to do is built Diebuster to haul us away from the sun

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

Okay, well all of us will be dead. Jury's out on our descendants.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

But we'll either be dead or be forced off the planet well before that point, since Earth will turn into a Venus-style hellhole in about a billion years.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

[/science nerd]

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

About five billion years, actually.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 09:38 PM)

Go check that episode of Doctor Who to see what date they said.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 09:26 PM)

We got a date for that yet? I want to clear my schedule to watch it.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 08:46 PM)

There are some more immediate doomsday scenarios on a more local level, like the sun expanding and consuming us all.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 08:25 PM)

In a few trillion years, there's going to be a Big Rip, a heat death, a Big Crunch or a Big Bounce, so- wait, you're talking about Stargate.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 08:20 PM)

I just wish Universe had a conclusive ending...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 07:53 PM)

They had to try something new, and it didn't work.

@  Echowarrior : (25 April 2017 - 07:31 PM)

SG-1 was a good series. Atlantis too. Universe...dear god was that ever a misfire.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 02:56 PM)

Started watching SG-1 right before season 9. The Stargate were the last live action series that could hold my attention week to week.

@  Rycochet : (25 April 2017 - 02:52 PM)

Sg1 really lost it's appeal once they got too far into the ancients/ascended plotlines.

@  Gizmoboy : (25 April 2017 - 02:48 PM)

I enjoyed the movie. Never got into the TV Series.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 02:19 PM)

About twenty since I cared. :D :D :D

@  Whirl Maximus : (25 April 2017 - 01:50 PM)

ten years since Stargate SG1 ended.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (25 April 2017 - 11:05 AM)

it's all about that sweet, savory monosodium glutamate!

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

If you're eating cheap Chinese, nutritional value is probably not the first thing on your mind.

@  Paladin : (25 April 2017 - 10:56 AM)

depends on where you get them from, but sometimes the paper has more nutritional value.

@  Robowang : (25 April 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I have actually eaten the cookie without opening it before. I didn't realize it until my wife asked what my fortune was.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 09:18 AM)

It's like the fortune cookies. After getting so many over the years I just barely notice them.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM)

Sorry, yeah, I also dislike any policy which involves including putting Optimus Prime in teriyaki chicken.

@  unluckiness : (25 April 2017 - 09:13 AM)

That sounds like an unfair assessment of the teriyaki chicken.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:10 AM)

Yeah but there's no way they weren't designing it with the Optimus Maximus or whatever in mind. That said I could just be annoyed because I dislike the "every line must have at least one Optimus Prime in there somewhere" policy that Hasbro seems to have.


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#1 MrBlud

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

Discuss the issue in this thread.

Edited by MrBlud, 21 March 2012 - 02:16 PM.

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#2 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:05 PM

Yay, it be open!

Not a bad issue. icon-hotrod.gif Not MTMTE, but few books are. Still a solid interesting read. SPOILERS.

I was sorry to see Barrel Roll and some of the more interesting/less human looking NAILs go without getting explored. Also, I'm a bit sorry to see the Aerialbots go storming off like the Dinobots in the old Marvel comic. The "Grimlock" role is a bit odd for Silverbolt, though i think you could argue it was somewhat understandable in that he always cared deaply about his troops, his seriously taking responsibillity for them is one of the reasons he got the job from Prime traditionally. Still I want to see Sky Dive do something besides stand in the background and follow Silverbolt. Since they've seperated themselves from the group now I'd LOVE an issue focused on the team and getting each member some personality and spotlight time to react to the situation. I don't think that'll happen, but I wish it would. Given how hostile Cybertron is, I'm not sure how far they're going... the next time we see those five could be as corrpses found in the wilderness. (Boo to that idea.)

Still I really like what they're doing with Starscream. It's nice to see him using his cunning this way and not knowing how far exactly you or the Autobots should trust his stated motives. He DEFINATELY has the public relations savy that King Bee (that is almost certainly gonna catch on...) and Prowl lack.

Curious to see where we go next. I'd like to see the book expand its character focus and start moving the plot of settling and exploring Cybertron a bit more. So far it's been the political leadership crisis interrupted by a crisis of the moment that must be solved. Now with a seeming triumvirate of Bee, MH, and Starscream formed I'd like to see them get a bit more traction under them in dealing with their main issues of the hostile planet, new city, new society bit.

-ZacWilliam, also Prowl is really wound tight these days. Understandable but still, he's more like a pressurized ball of repressed anger than his usual stoic self.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 28 March 2012 - 12:07 PM.

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#3 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:22 PM


Btw, the TRANSFORMERS Facebook page has now posted creator comentary from the writer, artist and colorist on the first four pages.


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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

Could we get a toy of that Metalhawk already?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE(Axaday @ Mar 28 2012, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could we get a toy of that Metalhawk already?


To be fair he was just introed in that design 4 months ago and it takes something like two years to go from concept to toy IIRC.

I dream in my deapest heart that following the Trans4mers Movie toyline in 2014 (is it too overdone to joke about it being entirely 35 Bumblebee and Prime variants?) we come back to Generations in 2014 with Rung/Scrounge, Metalhawk, Swerve, and Skids.


-ZacWilliam, oh and as long as I'm dreaming I'd love a Sky Lynx.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 28 March 2012 - 06:59 PM.

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#6 MrBlud

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:42 PM

I enjoyed it but it didn't seem as enjoyable as past issues.

I loved the interplay between the bots though. And it was nice to get a sciency Wheeljack again.

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#7 Xaaron

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

Anyone else find it odd that the Aerialbots walked out of town?

#8 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:58 AM

QUOTE(Xaaron @ Mar 29 2012, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone else find it odd that the Aerialbots walked out of town?


In which way?

1) Because outside of town is entirely a hostile primitive hell-scape bent on murdering anyone who goes more than a few feet?

2) Or because they coulda flown?


Until a future issues says otherwise I'm gonna assume they just metaphorically walked away from King Bee's government and didn't actually walk out of town, which Ironhide's foray in issue #1 suggests would be tantamount to suicide even if there were anyplace to go, which there isn't.


-ZacWilliam, would LOVE an issue focused entirely on the Aerialbots, showing how each of them as individuals feels about and deals with the whole situation and leaving the Autobots. That would be a great chance for some character exploration and exploration of the new Iacon forming.





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#9 Chris McFeely

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:43 AM

Good Lawd.


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#10 Xaaron

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:58 AM

Looking at that page, I like to think Wheeljack's communicator doesn't always chirp *BEE-BEE*. Sometimes it goes *PROWL-PROWL* or *JAZZ-JAZZ*.

#11 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE(Xaaron @ Mar 29 2012, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking at that page, I like to think Wheeljack's communicator doesn't always chirp *BEE-BEE*. Sometimes it goes *PROWL-PROWL* or *JAZZ-JAZZ*.


Jazz's should go ZOOM-ZOOM.


-ZacWilliam, now that they've made friends I wonder if it sometimes goes SCREAM-SCREAM!
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#12 Wildwade

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:30 PM

You can see Ironfist's prize skysled above Wheeljack's head in that top panel too.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

Okay, Andrew Griffith deserves some kind of medal and industry award for excellence. Managing to research and include this ungodly density of detailed references in kickass art and still delivering the thing on time is something that many, if not most other artists in the industry could only dream of achieving.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE(Creature SH @ Mar 29 2012, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, Andrew Griffith deserves some kind of medal and industry award for excellence. Managing to research and include this ungodly density of detailed references in kickass art and still delivering the thing on time is something that many, if not most other artists in the industry could only dream of achieving.


Maybe its the fact I've read Darkwing Duck and Ghostbusters, but I don't find this surprising as each issue of those series is filled with pages like this.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:45 PM

Agreed. I REALLY like Griffith's Wheeljack, too. He does a very good job of giving WJ a lot of expression in spite of the faceplate.

I was a bit surprised that Silverbolt turned out to be the hothead Aerialbot, as opposed to say... Slingshot. Not to mention his very monotone color scheme. I honestly thought he was Blades when he first popped into the recovery ward (though Blades is of course also red... but it was mostly due to how Griffith draws bolt's wings in bot mode).

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:44 PM

A very well done issue! The story, and dialogue is intelligent with lots of easter eggs in the art. These two series really do make me look forward to Transformers comics again. Rather than go the easy way, and break out into war, the writing shows exactly how much strain is taken in order to keep the peace. Keep em coming!
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:34 AM

QUOTE(Optimus Primary @ Mar 29 2012, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was a bit surprised that Silverbolt turned out to be the hothead Aerialbot, as opposed to say... Slingshot. Not to mention his very monotone color scheme.


It's close to what his color scheme was in War for Cybertron... which isn't good IMO, this color scheme is bland and I like it better with the red in there.

I think this issue was a bit weaker than the others, but still decent. I'm digging Starscream. The writing just feels a bit uneven. Like Bumblebee's outburst last issue, Silverbolt's outburst seemed a bit out of place. Just needs more buildup, I feel.

Have we gotten any info on Cybertron's moons before in IDW?


#18 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE(Magnusblitz @ Mar 31 2012, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have we gotten any info on Cybertron's moons before in IDW?


DOOP and MTMTE #1 established that one of the Moons vanished mystiously in reletively modern times. No one knows to where. Swerve was part of the "Moon Quest" to try and find it. Apparently they failed.


-ZacWilliam, almost wanted to add the bit about Minicons hailing from the moons but that was Aligned from the Exodus novels. Wish that would get used somewhere. Neat Idea.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:00 PM

Thanks. Given three mentions of the missing moon in recent comics, I'd wager it's going to be important soon...

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Optimus Primary @ Mar 29 2012, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was a bit surprised that Silverbolt turned out to be the hothead Aerialbot, as opposed to say... Slingshot.


That was my first thought as well, but I think with Barrel Roll dying, it does work for Silverbolt to just completely lose it. Especially since he does think the Decepticons were behind the first blast anyways. I can imagine Slingshot influencing Silverbolt off screen as well.

Really good issue. Loved the focus on Starscream and Wheeljack. If SS can convince even the most intelligent among the top brass, you know things aren't looking good icon-hotrod.gif