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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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Anyone here ever had a AC unit flood your attic?


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:31 PM

So yeah, after about 4.5 years of living in the house, the ac's drain lines became clogged. This cause the coil's containment box to rust and leak, this leak went into the Auxilary drain pan below it, that also had a clogged drain. So after time, the Auxilary drain rust through, and water soaks through the plywood beneath it and into the drywall underneath. This creates a nice big water spot in my ktichen.

I called a AC guy out, and he wanted to replace the entire coil, pan, and clean out the lines, for $1500. So after getting some serious seconde opinions, and some info from high places, I ended up getting both drain lines snaked out, which cost me just $70. Not much wet insulation up there, as it looks like it soaked straight through the plywood. So I guess that I need to disconnect the drainage pipe and cut out the wood, and replace it with a new wood and auxilary pan.


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:55 PM

I find it strange the AC unit is in the attic. Mines attached to the furnace in the basement and drains to the sump pit with the compressor mounted on the outside of the house on a concrete slab. Been all over the country on vacation and never saw a in attic unit.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE(JRSBill @ Mar 16 2012, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I find it strange the AC unit is in the attic. Mines attached to the furnace in the basement and drains to the sump pit with the compressor mounted on the side of the house. Been all over the country on vacation and never saw a in attic unit.



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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:30 AM

Well, I don't have a basement, sadly as I would love to utilize one for a Home Theater area. Most of the units here are built into the house's attic, as it makes running the central air condition a lot easier.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE(JRSBill @ Mar 16 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I find it strange the AC unit is in the attic. Mines attached to the furnace in the basement and drains to the sump pit with the compressor mounted on the outside of the house on a concrete slab. Been all over the country on vacation and never saw a in attic unit.


Some parts of the country have basements. A lot don't. I'm sure Pred's compressor is outside too. Abut his coils are in the attic. Mine are too. Used to be in a closet, but when my vents built into the slab foundation collapsed, I had to move all the air handling to the attic and that required the HVAC unit to go up there too.

Pred, my coils haven't flooded, but I have a humidifier attached to my return air and it did. Bad day.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:06 AM

I have the air handler in the attic as well. Most attempts to build basements around here would result in below ground swimming pools.

I have had the same problem but a somewhat different cause. The house had been originally built in the 1920's and the central AC had been added sometime in the early 70's. Apparently the drainage wasn't sufficient so over the course of many hot and muggy summers the insulation around the unit had become saturated with water and it started draining from a point the was outside of the drain pan.

The fix wasn't too difficult:
  1. Removed old insulation and rewrapped the the air handler.
  2. Installed a secondary drain pipe on the pan.
  3. Installed a couple of pieces of sheet metal to extend the are covered by the drain pan.

So, even if the insulation became saturated again it wouldn't start leaking out on to the ceiling.

The ceiling itself wasn't too bad either. There isn't a typical sheet rock ceiling instead there are ceiling tiles. I just had to remove and replace about a dozen tiles.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:07 PM

Sadly this is a somewhat common occurrence. The blockage is typically due to a build up of algea in the lines. There should be a tee somewhere in the line with the opening pointing up and you can poor a little bleach down there once a year or so just to kill off and clean any of that out.

Once of the things I miss most about living in the northern part of the country is basements. That being said, having the ac stuff in the attic works really well because they have all the room they need for distribution and return lines making it fairly efficient.

The real trick is make sure your water heater is not in the attic too - they built them that way here in Texas and that's a far bigger source of major flooding (though mostly due to freezing). Newer construction usually puts the water heater in the garage. If it is upstairs, inspect it regularly to make sure it's not corroding on the bottom.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:57 PM

Yup yup. Happened to me before.

Caused the roof in my master bedroom to collapse in the corner.

Thank goodness we were renting. I just called the landlord and he had to foot the bill.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Mar 17 2012, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The real trick is make sure your water heater is not in the attic too - they built them that way here in Texas and that's a far bigger source of major flooding (though mostly due to freezing). Newer construction usually puts the water heater in the garage. If it is upstairs, inspect it regularly to make sure it's not corroding on the bottom.


How new is new? And what part of Texas are you in?

Where I live now is 1980s at the oldest, but the heater is in the garage and the AC is by the side of the house.

In fact, I think all the houses on the block are like that.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:22 PM

The AC compressor is by the side of the house but the air handler will be inside somewhere. Usually in the attic or basement.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE(Fortress Ironhold @ Mar 17 2012, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dake @ Mar 17 2012, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The real trick is make sure your water heater is not in the attic too - they built them that way here in Texas and that's a far bigger source of major flooding (though mostly due to freezing). Newer construction usually puts the water heater in the garage. If it is upstairs, inspect it regularly to make sure it's not corroding on the bottom.


How new is new? And what part of Texas are you in?

Where I live now is 1980s at the oldest, but the heater is in the garage and the AC is by the side of the house.

In fact, I think all the houses on the block are like that.

"New-ish" might have been better - according to my father-in-law at any rate, the eighties seems to be when the change over occurred. We live in Houston and while our neighborhood is new (our house being one of the youngest at 8 years) we're surrounded by neighborhoods built mostly in the seventies and they have water heaters in their attics.
 
 
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