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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.


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#1 Year Zero

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

Okay, he's pretty much done folks...















I'm trying to decide on whether or not to add the yellow-stripe, since a yellowish-orange stripe is present on the original G1 toy, and a yellow stripe appears on the original G1 Animated series model too. Decisions, decisions.

Anywhoozle, "Arn-hahhhd" here had a base-coat in some spots mixed from Tamiya Red, and Orange, and Testors Dark Tan. Then he was painted primarily in a mixture that included Tamiya Red, Tamiya Orange, and Reaper Red-Steel, with a little future added as well. I wanted the final product to have a color that hewed slightly towards a rust-red.

He has details in Testors Battleship Gray and Gunmetal, and also a Pewter-colored mixture made from Testors Gunmetal, Tamiya Copper, and Citadel Mithril Silver. The energon-blade was painted with Tamiya Clear-Blue, the backs of his headlights and his grille-guard were painted in straight Citadel Mithril Silver, and the backs of his brake-lights were painted with Tamita Red on one half, and Tamiya orange on the other, before being painted over with Tamiya clear Orange.

Lastly, his opaque window details were painted over in a mix of Testors Aluminum and Dark Blue, and his eyes were painted with a mix of Citadel Enchanted Blue and Testors Dragon White.

WHEW!

I am very pleased with the way he turned out, and I feel the looks so much better now that the Salmon-color plastic has been covered over. Honestly I dunno what Hasbro was thinking with that color *lol*

Vehicle-mode pics to come later! Comments are welcome!

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:44 AM

I want to like this, Corvus. I really do! I mean, your paint work is - as always- really great and all... but Ironhide is just such a horrible mess of a figure to start with.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

Not a problem at all. I know full-well how unpopular he is, and that the scorn is justifiable. He's a poorly-designed and executed figure.

Worse still, the ridiculous aftermarket prices he goes for (and Ratchet is much worse). I held out and held out for a good price, and managed to snag one that was a bit scuffed up from a board-member for a very good price.

We need a new Ironhide and a new Ratchet as part of the 40 Generations figures in 2013 in the worst way.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:56 AM

Oh yeah, he's totally an improvement. Very unified and the windows are pretty cool.

A while ago I switched all the red parts from my Ratchet with all his grey parts, and painted some of the same spots you did, which I think worked out great, but as is the consensus in the picture thread...what a sad figure.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:59 AM

Thanks Nick!

Sounds like a good swap. Now if I can find a Ratchet for much less than what he tends to go for, I'll be in good shape.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 09:44 AM

As promised:





While I'm pleased with the paint-work (especially the windows), there's less hope for his vehicle mode than his robot mode.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:28 AM

just decepticreeps?

deceptichops need bustin too :\

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:38 AM

The alt-mode is just a lost cause.

Such a shame. Waited so many years for Ironhide and Ratchet, and we got....that monstrosity...

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(God Fire Convoy @ Mar 22 2012, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just decepticreeps?

deceptichops need bustin too :\

Their days are numbered because he's gonna start busting their Deceptichops icon-hotrod.gif

And I agree cat. I hope, hope, HOPE those 40 Generations figs in 2013 include a new Ironhide and Ratchet.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 11:48 AM

I'd prefer an earth mode, but I'd even be satisfied with a cybertronian design if that's what they have to do to get me a better toy.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Well we'll probably be getting a FOC Ironhide, but I still want an Earth-Based version.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:36 AM

Deluxe Prime Ironhide's probably gonna basically be a G1 Ironhide too. I actually really like your take on this though. I've always thought he was a decent, if not stellar, toy.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

Indeed he may be, but I dunno how well he'd fit in with a Classics display, especially since the deluxe toys have shrunk. We'll see.

And thanks icon-hotrod.gif

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