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@  Maruten : (23 July 2017 - 11:33 PM)

I've ordered from them several times with no problems.

@  Telly : (23 July 2017 - 11:19 PM)

i havent. but ive only ordered from them a few times

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2017 - 11:16 PM)

Has anyone here ever had trouble with orders from Tfsource before?

@  BlackMax : (23 July 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Good track, but I prefer Paranoid. Is there any tune better for this board? "tell a joke and I will sigh, and you will laugh, and I will cry".

@  Evac : (23 July 2017 - 08:41 PM)

GEN'RALS GATHERED IN THEIR MASSES *GUITAR CHORD* JUST LIKE WITCHES AT BLACK MASSES

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2017 - 06:29 PM)

Once again, there is pain, I bring flame, I bring cold. I'm the blood red sandman, coming home.

@  Evac : (23 July 2017 - 06:26 PM)

Yo, when Team Skull meets you, they don't even greet you!

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Yooooooo

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Yo.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (23 July 2017 - 06:14 PM)

Once more, I have returned. w00t.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2017 - 02:01 PM)

Macross Delta sucks but I listen to the music anyway.

@  MEDdMI : (23 July 2017 - 09:46 AM)

And dealing with me.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2017 - 08:47 AM)

Don't forget the rock music and D&D.

@  unluckiness : (23 July 2017 - 07:52 AM)

He certainly doesn't have the time to be employed full-time what with all the war-stoking, dinosaur fossil burying, pornographing and etc

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2017 - 06:44 AM)

Look, I'm TRYING, okay?

@  Bass X0 : (23 July 2017 - 06:40 AM)

The devil is a part-timer!

@  Nevermore : (23 July 2017 - 06:32 AM)

I always took it to be a catch-all term for "person or thing of the same name" regardless of which came first.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 July 2017 - 10:06 PM)

So technically it could be either way and not be wrong, but it is more apt to be Kalidor's example.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 July 2017 - 10:05 PM)

one that has the same name as another; especially : one who is named after another or for whom another is named

@  Kalidor : (22 July 2017 - 09:45 PM)

I think the official meaning is that a namesake is the person or thing that is named after something else. So the USS Kalidor would be Kalidor's namesake

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 08:30 PM)

I thought it was either?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2017 - 08:27 PM)

It is very irritating that no one seems to agree on whether the word "namesake" refers to the thing that came first or the thing that came second.

@  2017 : (22 July 2017 - 07:19 PM)

I'd like it, but I really don't have the cash or the justification.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Anyone still need a Chaos on Velocitron set? Found one at TRU today...

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 July 2017 - 01:27 PM)

He REALLY likes blowing stuff up.

@  Dekafox : (22 July 2017 - 12:42 PM)

G1 Scattershot's 3rd mode gimmick?

@  MEDdMI : (22 July 2017 - 12:04 PM)

Nothing can be more awkward than the crotch rubsigns.

@  Bass X0 : (22 July 2017 - 11:28 AM)

well, they had to go somewhere.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 02:54 AM)

TR Quake's shoulder symbols are very awkward looking

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

..er myself.

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

NOT RESPONDING

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

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@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

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@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

Couldn't say it bett.....

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 July 2017 - 10:33 PM)

You just don't appreciate the speed of a solid state drive until you have to use an old laptop with an old spinning drive

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 July 2017 - 08:32 PM)

If there's at least one, you can army-build.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 July 2017 - 07:25 PM)

Are there even enough toys of him to collect?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2017 - 04:21 PM)

A nerd.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Speaking of, what do you call someone who collects toys of the Marvel character The Collector?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:18 PM)

What about people who collect the "Die Hard" movies?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2017 - 03:54 PM)

A lot of the die hard collectors don't need to be louder...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 July 2017 - 03:22 PM)

@Nevermore Benbot means "amped" as in excited. I believe the term is shorthand for (a sound) amplifier.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Or is "shorthand" a synonym for "amputated"?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Is "amped" shorthand for "amputated"?

@  Benbot : (21 July 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I am amped! But I also have standards.

@  Fear or Courage : (21 July 2017 - 08:38 AM)

I consider Thew to basically be the model toy collector. We should all aim to be so amped about the thing we collect.

@  Pennpenn : (21 July 2017 - 07:21 AM)

And some people are just whiny jerks who like to complain about stuff and don't realise that, so will invent irrational grievances to fuel that need.

@  Rycochet : (21 July 2017 - 06:13 AM)

A lot of toy collectors don't seem to get that the things the collect are toys.and have unrealistic expectations of what's doable in a modern retail environment. You're not going to get a $100 figure's worth of parts and paint for $20 or less and gimmicks are needed tomake the toys actually, you know, fun.

@  Foffy : (20 July 2017 - 09:40 PM)

Not necessarily. With the right condiments, they can taste surprisingly nice.

@  Evac : (20 July 2017 - 09:37 PM)

I think most toy collectors are bitter in some form.


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#1 Magick

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:57 AM

Hi all. Does anyone have the TF:Prime Season One on Blu-ray? I read the review at http://www.blu-ray.c...y/34899/#Review and was concerned about the banding and general video quality issues. They liked the sound and extras, but dinged the video. I want to get the BR version, but if it has annoying video issues then I'll get the DVD version.

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum. I checked the Transformers TV forum and it appeared to be geared toward individual episodes than DVD reviews.

Edited by Magick, 07 March 2012 - 02:00 AM.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:03 AM

According to Brian Ward on the Shout Factory forums, the banding is part of the source material. So the DVDs won't look any better in that regard.

Edited by Buster Darkwings, 07 March 2012 - 02:04 AM.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:19 AM

I've wondered about that, but was hoping someone who had it could provide more detail.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:31 AM

I think tfw reviewed an early copy or something talking about the video quality.the pictures really great, its just "technically" not as great as it could be (banding and all that) but the episodes themselves are still gorgeous to look at. Not really that big of a deal really imo

I should be getting my copy on Thursday. Apparently the blu ray version is online only? (Didn't know that)

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:38 PM

Can someone explain what banding is?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE(RCX @ Mar 7 2012, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can someone explain what banding is?


If you do a quick Google image search for "Video Banding" or somesuch, you can get some good examples.

Essentially, colour gradients aren't smoothly blended, meaning that you get distinct "stripes" or "bands" of colours.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:02 PM

*looks it up*

Eh, that jive is par for the course with CGI shows and LCD TVs. These people have too much time on their hands to complain about such minor things, especially with the uber-compression of cable signals these days.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:12 PM

Mine is en route, and should arrive Saturday. I'm anxious to watch these in a quality better than Youtube. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

I have the DVD and have reviwed it but I didn't get a Blu-Ray copy.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

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I should be getting my copy on Thursday. Apparently the blu ray version is online only? (Didn't know that)


Considering that I just picked it up at Future Shop (Canadian retail) yesterday... no?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

Hm. Well maybe canaaas different

Some people were sayin on tfw that that's what the deal is (which would explain why I haven't spotted any at the stores. Just the dvd versions)

But anyway, I ordered on amazon n should get it tomorrow

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:39 PM

That could be the case.

In which case, I'm happy to have been able to pick it up on a whim.

Edited by mx-01 archon, 07 March 2012 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:04 PM

I got the BD.

I think the show looks AMAZING.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:06 PM

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Eh, that jive is par for the course with CGI shows and LCD TVs. These people have too much time on their hands to complain about such minor things, especially with the uber-compression of cable signals these days.

And over cable, they shouldn't complain. The Blu-Ray format, though, is more than capable of running those kinds of images uncompressed, and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either. People should definitely expect better than that from a BD.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

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and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either


But apparently it did.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:02 PM

I got mine from Amazon today and haven't noticed a problem.



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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Mar 8 2012, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Professor @ Mar 7 2012, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and the production source material almost certainly didn't have the banding either


But apparently it did.


This doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be in the Blu-ray as well, since there are various technologies that reduce/eliminate it, such as Sony's SBMV: http://www.eclectice...for-video-sbmv/

Banding used to be fairly common on anime BDs in Japan before companies started using it. I don't expect a small company like Shout Factory to know or bother with such software though, as I imagine the license to use it isn't free.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:06 AM

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But apparently it did.

No, what was given to Shout Factory had the banding. It is enormously unlikely that the original renders had the banding, and there are almost certainly uncompressed masters of the episodes out there. At some point it was compressed (maybe for air on HDTV?), and that's apparently what they gave to Shout Factory.

As BD notes, there are ways to remove banding and otherwise clean up lower-res or compressed source material. However, a modern CG-rendered series shouldn't be having this issue in the first place. Someone was thoughtless or indifferent about what source material was given to Shout to work from.