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@  Dracula : (24 April 2017 - 04:10 PM)

bot can not be straight

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)


@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)


@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

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RM Convoy vs United Optimus Prime

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#1 B-Fox

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

I'm thinking of picking up one or the other, but would like to know which is the better toy. No need to mention the alt-modes of either since I'm mostly concerned with the robot modes and know how half-arsed both are in that department vs. accuracy.



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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:42 PM

Assuming that the Ultimate Battle mold is the United Optimus you're thinking of, I happen to like the Robot Masters figure better, which probably puts me in the minority. I think the proportions on Robot Masters Convoy came out better, I like the head sculpt better, and I think the cleaner sculpt on the robot mode looks better.

That said, Robot Masters Convoy is a pretty mediocre toy qua toy. (OTOH, I really wasn't impressed with Ultimate Battle Optimus.)

IMHO, YMMV, etc.

Edited by Canthros, 29 February 2012 - 09:44 PM.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

The Robot Masters Optimus certainly looks much better in robot mode, and has a nice head sculpt. But, it's a very light-feeling toy, and mine snapped right in half at the waist swivel after maybe four transformations. I've never owned the Deluxe toy, but always thought it looked pretty terrible in both modes.

For my money, the best G1 Optimus Prime toy is the Classics Voyager mold. I've got five versions of it!

Edited by ChessPieceFace, 29 February 2012 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:54 PM

Deluxe Prime. The Robot Masters one is just poor all around, while the Deluxe just has a poor vehicle mode.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:57 PM

Yeah the Voyager and United (not RtS) Laser Optimus are better toys than either of these. While I don't think neither Deluxe sized G1 Optimus figures are all that great, I definitely think the United/Classics/Universe Deluxe Optimus is better than the Robot Masters version. The RM version has a strange head (not that the United/Classics/Universe one doesn't, just not as strange). Plus it seems a bit fragile and there isn't much it can do. Though the action feature (which can be disabled) may run the United/Classics/Universe one for you.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:00 PM

Honestly, they both suck ass. Ugly in both modes that don't even attempt to really hide anything in vehicle mode. If you HAD to go with either of them, United looks the least like ass. At least in Robot mode, and had a pretty cool gun.

I prefer Classics/Henkei Optimus Prime myself, as he actually looks good in both modes.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:08 PM

The Prime only looks bad in vehicle mode. The robot mode, aside from the strange head is totally fine, more than decent.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:21 PM

RM Prime is super cool. He's too small for any kind of Classics collection, but on his own (or with Robot Masters...) he's pretty nice, I think. The truck mode has even grown on me. I really dig his head, though.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

Does RM Prime have Tornado Torso Action?

I didn't think so.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:13 PM

I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 29 2012, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand why everyone loves Classics Prime so much. He's got big flappy arm wings and a huge kibbly bumper butt. God help you if you lose his shield because his vehicle mode will be ruined.

Which still puts him miles a ahead of any other modern G1 Prime that isn't a masterpiece. As RM and United primes alt modes come "pre-ruined" not bothering to look like anything other then Prime folded into an L shape. Bumper never bothered me as it doesn't restrict any movement and And many TFs tend to not look good from behind.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

I prefer the RM version since he's kind of a Basic/Scout G1 Prime with good articulation, which I find to be neat. And he doesn't look like you just busted in on him in the shower like Deluxe Classics Prime does. Those eyes...

Otherwise, it's kind of a matter of opinion. Deluxe Prime is probably cheaper right now, though.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:12 AM

Classics Prime looks fine without his rifle/air dam. He's solid, and though he has some kibble, it doesn't hinder much and makes the truck look like an actual truck.

I personally like RM Prime over the spinny wide eyed Prime due to the better looking head and general body.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

If you are simply looking for a G1 Optimus action figure, the Revoltech toy would be my reccomendation. He suffers from "Pat Lee Head", but he can do all your favorite street fighter poses.

If you want a transforming one, I would go for United Prime, he has better articulation and balance then the HM figure, and the HM figure is very thin and prone to breakeage.

Edited by Llwynoh, 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

What about Hybrid Style Convoy the vehical suffers some but not as bad as thses two
And looks stellar in robot mode

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:17 AM

That thing is hideously Pat Lee filled.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:29 AM

Don't bother with either. Just get a CHOP.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:34 AM

yeah the best thing about the classics one is that you can throw him away and give his gun to anybody else...

if you could just buy the gun, I'd go that route

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:30 AM

The Robot Master one is far nicer, especially if you're prioritising robot mode.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:08 AM

Neither are great toys.

It depends on what you want.

RM Prime has the axe accessory, if that matters.

Personally, I actually like the 2 pack Prime better.