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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)


@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.

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Prime, Cyberverse, Bot Shots, Rescue Bots, Kreo, etc.: What are you buying?

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#1 Might Gaine

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:21 PM

I feel like the most recent offerings are pretty strong compared to their predecessors (Rescue Bots vs Go-Bots, Anything vs RPMs, Kreo vs Built To Rule, Cyberverse vs Legends), but I find myself gravitating toward some more than others. With all the different lines and spin-off lines, what are you guys buying and what are you not buying?

For me...

Prime: Almost no interest. The show never drew me in like Animated did.

Cyberverse: Not much interest for the same reason. But I am tempted, since I like the 'transforming base/vehicle/ship/etc.' play pattern.

Bot Shots: I like these a lot. Bought two so far, and planning on buying all the G1-based ones. They're just fun and they look cool, and who doesn't like transforming SD G1 toys? The price is great, too.

Rescue Bots: I'm hooked. Like bot shots, they're simple fun. Plus the pieces are big enough that a little kid isn't going to choke on it, if you have really young kids.

Kreo: No interest. I recognize they look good, and the Kreons are cool, but for me, a Transformer is most fun when it transforms, otherwise it's just a plain old robot.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:27 PM

Mostly trying for the Takara versions for right now due to minicons...Plus i love the designs.

Everything basically...I just finished buying the first group ( minus the big bee but i am not wasting 25$ on that thing )

I am tempted but i dont want to take the dive just yet. I will be buying mirage though.

Rescue-bots- Yes i will be at some point but more for my son. I should go pick one up next time i am out.

Um unless they make a character i really like, then no.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:31 PM

Was just thinking of making a thread like this.

Anyway, for me...

Prime: 1 of each of the main characters, namely the "best" version of each character. And that's it.

Generations (or whatever it's going to be called): I needs me my Bruticus.

Everything else: 0 interest. I'm already spending enough damn money on the First Editions. icon-megs.gif
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:34 PM

Prime: HORRIBLE innacurate and ugly toys. Shame considering the show looks good visual wise.

Cyberverse: Better than the Prime toys, that is both sad and awesome.

Bot Shots: Love them. Neat little things. Adorable.

Rescue Bots: Ugly and weak. I thought Animated was supposed to be dead? Atleast they admit it's for toddlers this time. Do not want.

Kreo: Cool. Can't wait for Devastator.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

Prime: Well, I was going to eschew the main line but... uh... obviously that's not happening. Deluxes and voyagers. The leader/powerizer figures are maybes, if they're good enough.

On a related note, anyone want to buy some excess figures? Heh...

Cyberverse: Commanders for sure. I have been very impressed with the commander size figures so far.

Bot-Shots: No. Maybe. I'm afraid if I get them they'll be like popcorn and I'll suddenly find myself buying all of them.

Rescue Bots: No

Kre-O: I bought the small Optimus Prime and that's it. They don't really do it for me.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:40 PM

QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Feb 29 2012, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime: HORRIBLE innacurate and ugly toys. Shame considering the show looks good visual wise.

FE Prime is a gorgeous toy, and is about as close as you can get without cheating things like the rounded forearms Prime sports on the show.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Feb 29 2012, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime: HORRIBLE innacurate and ugly toys. Shame considering the show looks good visual wise.

So... apparently you have none of the FE.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:47 PM

Prime toys only and only if FE Prime Optimus and Bulkhead reach the USA and maybe Megatron.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Feb 29 2012, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Feb 29 2012, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime: HORRIBLE innacurate and ugly toys. Shame considering the show looks good visual wise.

FE Prime is a gorgeous toy, and is about as close as you can get without cheating things like the rounded forearms Prime sports on the show.

I meant RiD Prime. The FEs are nice. Only RiD I like is Wheeljack.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:48 PM

I've decided to limit myself only to the Bot Shots that I can get my hands on, just to reign myself in.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(TheOptimusPrime @ Feb 29 2012, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I meant RiD Prime. The FEs are nice. Only RiD I like is Wheeljack.

Makes more sense. Thanks icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:02 PM

None. Only brought two Transformers toys this year - Generations Sky Shadow and MyClone Ramjet.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:05 PM

Prime: So far I've bought all the RID Deluxe and Voyager toys and I dig them. FEs may be more show-accurate, but RIDs are fun toys. (The Powerizer gimmick is terrible, admittedly.)

Cyberverse: Haven't gotten any of the Prime ones yet. I bought some of the DOTM stuff, and was looking forward to it for Prime, but I'm not that interested in the vehicles, and some of the choices (like Soundwave being a redeco and Breakdown being a Legion) seem off to me. I haven't ruled them out yet, though.

Bot Shots: None yet. I'll probably get Jetfire and Lockdown when they come out, because I like those guys.

Rescue Bots: Cute, but squarely in the "I don't have the room or the money for all this stuff" category.

KREO: No interest to speak of. I like Lego in theory, but in practice I don't get much out of it, and building partsformers out of bricks just isn't my thing.

Generations: I like WFC/FOC designs in general, but I might pass on these, just to keep from going overboard.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:08 PM

Third party stuff and some stuff I missed. Might pick up FOC Shockwave.

Not much else.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:21 PM

Prime: As usual, only planning on getting the characters that I like on the show (and so far that's only Arcee, Ratchet, Starscream, Soundwave, and Megatron). Maybe Hot Shot too, since I guess he's the Aligned version of Rodimus now?

Cyberverse: Not really interested, unless there are more G1 Legends in the pipeline.

Rescue Bots: I'm liking the show so far, but don't really feel a need to own any of the toys right now.

Bot Shots & Kreo: No interest unless either line has a Rodimus figure.

Generations: Looking forward to Bruticus and Shockwave.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:21 PM

I'm only getting Prime stuff.

And not much of it since HASBRO DOESNT SEEM TO WANT MY MONEY.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:39 PM

Prime: Probably nothing bigger than a deluxe, and then it's only going to be ones that really grab me. I'm currently looking for Wheeljack.

Cyberverse: I'm considering going completionist on the Commanders - I haven't seen any that I haven't liked so far. A few of the Legions if they have extremely good points. (Cliffjumper's articulation and Arcee's transformation respectively)

Rescue Bots: They made a big, bulky, green construction guy. This is my one weakness in these kinds of toylines. Boulder will be mine.

KRE-O: Zero interest.

Bot Shots: Just looking for a good jumping on point, love that Lockdown from future waves we've seen.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:53 PM

A big old pile of nuttin'.

Which is fine by me.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

With Prime, I'll be picking up the original-mould deluxes and Voyagers. I can't see myself bothering with the leaders.

On Cyberverse, I found that DOTM really legitimized these for me - no longer just "tiny versions of some characters that have bigger toys just because", the bases and vehicles have turned them into a whole unique play pattern of their own. However, as far as I'm concerned, the UK RRPs are absolute highway robbery, and I won't be buying any until they come down.

Rescue Bots - I've bought Boulder and Blades, and love 'em, but I don't plan to get any more. It was just those two I liked the look of.

Kre-O, I've bought a few and it's cool, but again, I don't see myself going whole hog on the line, probably won't get any more.

Bot Shots aren't for me. Nice looking, fun things, but I think my lack of space for stuff has moved me into a mindset that excludes merchandise like this.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

Prime: Yeah, I'll be getting this. I really enjoy the show, and while the current toys aren't the FE stuff, it's not like I have a lot of choice.

Rescue Bots: Absolutely. LOVE being able to watch the cartoon with my boys and play with the toys afterwards. They're a lot of fun.

Kre-O: Tried some for my oldest, but he doesn't seem really overly thrilled with them aside from putting them together. Once they're together, he just kind of forgets about them.

Generations: All the FoC stuff looks fantastic, and I'm anxious to get it. Also curious as to what be coming after that.

Cyberverse: Nothing for me, but if my oldest sees something he likes...

Bot Shots: Looks like a fun little game that should be easy to play with both my boys. Most likely I'll get a few to see how it goes.

This is all under the assumption local stores carry any of this stuff rather than the useless movie crap currently clogging the pegs, of course. icon-kicker.gif