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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 Internet Jesus

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:59 AM

A few years back, my parents' PC running on Vista died. I managed to recover the HD and recently wiped it to use as an external HD.

My computer just died. Right now, I'm using an HP mini (on XP SP3) and upgraded its RAM. I want to upgrade it to Vista but am unsure if I can use the same product key on it.

So I ask this to you guys: Can I use the same key to upgrade my Mini or is my Vista disk useless now?

Edited by Internet Jesus, 29 February 2012 - 06:03 AM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:18 AM

Is it your parent's old copy of Vista (I assume it's an OEM license) you wanted to use on the computer currently running XP? Assuming you have the key, there's no reason it shouldn't work. Those aren't tied to the computer they initially came on; and there shouldn't be any issues installing it on different system, assuming the same license key isn't being used simultaneously on another. If it gives you trouble activiating, calling Microsoft over the telephone activation line should resolve it in just a few minutes; it always has for me.

Honestly, though, it's easier just building a new system from scratch; even if you decide to keep Vista as opposed to buying a Windows 7 license to go with the new build. Upgraded though it may be, you'll likely find Vista will slow down that system you're on considerably, even with the fanciest of the UI elements disabled. Vista isn't nearly as bad as word of mouth made it appear, particularly not the newer service pack; but it's still not exactly easy on resources, either. One of the reasons it ran so terribly a lot of the time when it was first released is that the budget-priced PCs (the models that the average consumers inevitably buy the most of) weren't up to the task of running it.

Edited by TM2-Megatron, 29 February 2012 - 07:19 AM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:22 AM

Skip Vista, go directly to Windows 7.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE(lostorbit @ Feb 29 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skip Vista, go directly to Windows 7.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:31 AM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Feb 29 2012, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(lostorbit @ Feb 29 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skip Vista, go directly to Windows 7.


Agreed!

This implies having or buying a copy of 7 which would preclude needing to recycle Vista.

And yes, your product key should work fine.
 
 
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:34 AM

the product key will let you install the OS. You may need to call the automated 800 line to register it afterwards.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

Your Vista disk was useless regardless of the product key.

Seriously.. if you can't go to 7 then you should stay with XP. XP is perfectly fine and is not full of problems like Vista is.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE(Dake @ Feb 29 2012, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Feb 29 2012, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(lostorbit @ Feb 29 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skip Vista, go directly to Windows 7.


Agreed!

This implies having or buying a copy of 7 which would preclude needing to recycle Vista.

And yes, your product key should work fine.


I don't think that the Vista disk will work unless you can get the PC to fake itself to look like one of the manufacture's PCs. I think that he is going to run into problems.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:30 AM

Keys are not manufacture specific. They can be used on any system.

The only way you will run into problems is if your trying to use the OEM key used for the mass installs. Then you will have problems as that serial is tied to the SLIC 2.0 or 2.1 bios code. There are ways around that, I'm not saying as I'm not going to tell someone how to pirate copies using the OEM specific serial used for all installs from the factory.

Use the key on the side of the computer and you can use it anywhere on any system as long as you haven't activated another computer using that in the last 6 months. Just run the activation request or will you lose the system in 30 days and then they force you to activate.



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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 29 2012, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your Vista disk was useless regardless of the product key.

Seriously.. if you can't go to 7 then you should stay with XP. XP is perfectly fine and is not full of problems like Vista is.

This right here.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Feb 29 2012, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 29 2012, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your Vista disk was useless regardless of the product key.

Seriously.. if you can't go to 7 then you should stay with XP. XP is perfectly fine and is not full of problems like Vista is.

This right here.


Yup. DO NOT INSTALL WITH VISTA. It will mess your PC up something fierce. It will likely also run incredibly slowly. Stick with XP.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:20 PM

Well, it probably won't break itself, but it's never been shipped on a netbook, and there's a reason. Upgrading the RAM isn't going to compensate. Vista is the most resource-intensive consumer OS ever released, and netbooks are the kind of low-performance devices that Windows 7 was sold on supporting. Now, if he has special requirements for things that don't work with XP, that's another issue, but I can't imagine what that could be.

Edited by Copper Bezel, 29 February 2012 - 02:21 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

Well, I would have used the Windows 7 disk if it were 32-bit, but it's 64-bit and I still plan on repairing my main PC.

So I'm stuck with either Vista or XP.

Looks like XP is the consensus, though.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:58 PM

Yeah, I mean, there are advantages to using Vista, and it does have better security and smarter drivers and so on, but even on ordinary machines, it's really a wash with XP, and it's just not intended for that kind of hardware.

Edited by Copper Bezel, 29 February 2012 - 09:59 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:22 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 29 2012, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your Vista disk was useless regardless of the product key.

Seriously.. if you can't go to 7 then you should stay with XP. XP is perfectly fine and is not full of problems like Vista is.



Definitely this. I still have an old laptop running on XP and it works just fine, and I haven't had any problems transferring things back and forth to my other computers running on Windows 7, even when going backwards from 7 to XP.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:22 AM

Conversely, the PC I'm about to retire in the next two months or so has been going strong for over 4 years with Vista installed with no crashes, viruses, malware, or any other issues in all that time. Mostly because I waited to move from XP until after the first Service Pack was released, and also because I built the system myself and didn't install garbage components in it, which tends to be what you get in most moderately-priced store-bought PCs. On a high-end machine, it's much more difficult to notice Vista's resource hogging issues.

When the Ivy Bridge chipset is released in the next few months, I'll be building a new system around the Core i7 3770K. I've been putting off upgrading to 7 until then, as Vista still seems quite serviceable on this machine.

But on a system as old as the one being discussed here, as I mentioned in my first reply, upgraded RAM won't really be enough to prevent a very large performance drop-off with Vitsa.

Edited by TM2-Megatron, 01 March 2012 - 07:25 AM.