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@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Thundercracker, in particular.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Some of the Decepticons start to really enjoy being the good guys. Well, they enjoy the act, at least. They find fulfillment in their assumed personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Except SHockwave eventually betrays his teammates and teams up with Skynet.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:20 PM)

Starscream becomes the young, eager Nightscream, and so on.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

Megatron becomes the noble Megabolt, taking cues from Beast Wars Silverbolt.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

A Thunderbolts-esque masquerade.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:19 PM)

In order to do so, the Decepticons pretend to be the good guys and take on different personas.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:18 PM)

So Megatron decides that hey, the Autobots are stillback on Cybertron, so why not team up with the humans, defeat Skynet, then double-cross the humans?

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

Unfortunately, the Skynet/humans war is already going on, and Skynet is evolving rapidly.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

The Decepticons discover Earth and want to plunder its resources.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

It would have a really crazy twist:

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2018 - 06:17 PM)

I've had this crazy idea for a Transformers/Terminator crossover for years.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:20 PM)

Specifically I'd like to see Skynet's army rise up against him (he did refer to them as an "army of slaves" in Genisys), or even perhaps a peace-minded iteration of Skynet that's existed in a humanoid form long enough to gain some compassion for the human point of view

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:19 PM)

A peaceful resolution would be satisfying for me (it's the only resolution possible in The Matrix series, too), but I think the majority of Terminator fans would walk out think WTF?

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 June 2018 - 05:15 PM)

I liked Clarke as Sarah as well, although I read a lot of complaints online that she looked too young, but I thought she was pretty badass.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 05:11 PM)

I think across these movies, there's a very compelling story about a progressive temporal arms race driven by mutual fear in which Judgement Day keeps getting pushed back, which only gives both sides more time for technological development, and the only true resolution to it is cooperation. But cooperation will never come about because each side fears being wiped out by the other.

@  Paladin : (18 June 2018 - 05:05 PM)

Genisys basically made Sara Connors' entire motivation in stopping judgement day stem from not wanting to sleep with Jai Courtney. and really, can you blame her?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 June 2018 - 03:52 PM)

I'll give Genisys another thing, Emilia Clarke made a damn good Linda Hamilton. (As for Jai Courtney looking nothing like Michael Biehn, that just supports my theory that it's not always the same "Kyle Reese" sent back which would explain why John Connor looks different in almost every movie.)

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2018 - 02:54 PM)

I'm not, I'm lost in music.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 June 2018 - 12:59 PM)

What, again?

@  2018 : (18 June 2018 - 06:33 AM)

It's a time warp. We're trapped in the past.

@  Pennpenn : (18 June 2018 - 05:44 AM)

A rick roll? Really?

@  Waspinator : (17 June 2018 - 11:03 PM)

On the subject of a Mega Man movie

@  Msol : (17 June 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Man I really wish Slash was blue instead of red. Swoop looks off as the only blue one. What a missed opportunity!

@  Otaku : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 PM)

@Bass X0 So, getting back to Mega Man as a movie and smart-aleck answers, wouldn't Astroboy (2009) count? ;) Otherwise, I'm torn; part of me is glad they haven't tried given Hollywood's track record.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 01:52 PM)

and some TV show...

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 01:35 PM)

John Connor?! John Connor! JOHN CONNORRRRR!!!!

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 12:26 PM)

Pretty sure that's what happened to John Connor in that last one

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 12:17 PM)

you eat them.... THEY EAY YOU

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2018 - 11:57 AM)

Nanomachines, son!

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2018 - 11:49 AM)

@Nevermore Rice of fhe Macheens: taking over the world with evil robots the size of rice grains.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:36 AM)

It eventually goes off the rails, but the bones of an interesting story are there. I enjoyed it more than Rise of the Machines or Salvation

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 11:26 AM)

There was Genysis, Jujjmend Dae, Salvayshon and Rice of the Macheens, or something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2018 - 11:25 AM)

I actually re-watched Genisys the other day, and I'll give it one thing. The beginning of the movie with the pre-Terminator 1 future scenes all looked really fantastic.

@  Xellos : (17 June 2018 - 11:08 AM)

Five, actually, with a sixth in development. Varying degrees of cannonicity between them, though.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 07:59 AM)

There was only two movies, right?

@  Paladin : (17 June 2018 - 07:08 AM)

overall, lousy. there's one great one, one pretty good one and everything else under that brand sucks.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 June 2018 - 06:52 AM)

uuuhhh, what do you think the terminator movies are?

@  Bass X0 : (17 June 2018 - 06:35 AM)

Why has Mega Man never been given a Hollywood movie?

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:32 AM)

Considering at least half our workforce is not of "German" descent, racism should really have no place at our workplace.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:23 AM)

The one thing that really fascinated me was how he was so adamant that his kids have to learn German that he insisted on only speaking German at home. I'm not saying that this is the one true way to do it, but I did respect him for that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:22 AM)

Always cheerful, always friendly. Leaves behind a wife and three kids.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:21 AM)

I'd have done this either way, but in this case it particularly pissed me off because the deceased coworker was literally the nicest person you could possibly hope to meet.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2018 - 04:18 AM)

He deserved it to be suspended. What an imbecile.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:17 AM)

****ing disgusting racist.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

Guy was immediately suspended from work.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:16 AM)

He literally said in my face "they only make a big fuss because that token negro died". I said "dude, what are you saying?" He said "my parent taught me to say what I think." I said "bad enough for you to think like that." and then reported him.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:15 AM)

So I told this other longtime employee that I was planning to go to the funeral, and he went on a tirade about how "other people had died too", and this was only treated as a big deal because this guy was black.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:13 AM)

A longtime coworker who originated from Ghana had died, really nice guy, I attended his funeral on Friday.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2018 - 04:13 AM)

So on Thursday I had to report a coworker for extremely racist remarks...


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#121 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 05:47 PM

For me, Soundwave as an SUV isn't that bad. But the head on that design needs to be more Decepticon symbol-looking and less "generic dude with head crest and visor". Also, the biggest problem, honestly, is that the toy doesn't exist.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:44 PM

I like the idea of Soundwave as an aerial vehicle, honestly. Mostly because the notion of his cassettes as missiles or bombs being air-dropped into battles is very visually appealing in my mind's eye. And it's a plausible way for him to have multiple minions handy at once.

An alternative way would be to go the Machine Wars route and make him a missile tank.

I basically just don't want another car or SUV.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:07 PM

Is making him an mp3 player with SD cards that turn into his minions that jivey of an idea? I mean, is it?

Stealth drone Soundwave is still cool, (as is Laserbeak) don't get me wrong, but outside of his voice; capitalizing on his "minicons" is what made the original Soundwave great. I want a toy that exploits that.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:13 PM

Me too. Like I said, it's one of Soundwave's defining characteristics that Hasbro never seems to understand.

As for the MP3/SD Card idea, the MP3 player idea is fine, but the SD Cards are just waaaaay too thin from which to produce even a remotely good robot/beast mode. The CD changer things from Bandai years ago sort of proved that. Everything ended up looking like featureless origami critters.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:19 PM

Soundwave having a bunch of deployers inside him strikes me as... idk, limiting the character. The Prime version is the one that has perfectly encapsulated his role and taken his characterization as the enigmatic surveillance master. They managed to make Laserbeak work, but giving him a tiny armada of jive talking colorful pets sounds like focusing on Soundwave more as a gimmick than a character.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:21 PM

Soundwave IS a gimmick. That and his (also gimmick) voice are what made him cool in the first place in the '80s.

Prime Soundwave is okay, but honestly he feels more like, I don't know, G2 Skyjack than G1 Soundwave. Hell, he's already got the head.

Edited by Spark, 06 March 2012 - 10:22 PM.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:22 PM

Right, and I agree. They don't need to be actual SD sized SD cards, though. Making them thicker than actual cards should be allowed, after all, it is a toy and would definitely be out of scale with everybody else, anyways.

Maybe Soundwave should be like a Nintendo DS, and the games would be his 'lil dudes. Fictionally, they could hook up to anything they wanted and record whatever they want, after all, Ravage was definitely flying into places he probably shouldn't have been flying in to as a cassette. Depending how you want to take it, the idea should be able to translate better than it has.

Not that new Soundwaves have been bad! They haven't, but something a little more on the nose would be nice.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 6 2012, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soundwave IS a gimmick. That and his (also gimmick) voice are what made him cool in the first place in the '80s.

Prime Soundwave is okay, but honestly he feels more like, I don't know, G2 Skyjack than G1 Soundwave. Hell, he's already got the head.


I think I'm the only one that doesn't find Prime Soundwave the least bit interesting. He might as well be another Eradicon.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Mar 6 2012, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I'm the only one that doesn't find Prime Soundwave the least bit interesting. He might as well be another Eradicon.


Well, the Vehicons and Eradicons are starting to talk now, so iunno about that.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 03:47 PM

SD card Transformers would end up like this: http://tfwiki.net/wi...e:STFRavage.jpg

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 7 2012, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soundwave IS a gimmick. That and his (also gimmick) voice are what made him cool in the first place in the '80s.

Prime Soundwave is okay, but honestly he feels more like, I don't know, G2 Skyjack than G1 Soundwave. Hell, he's already got the head.


Well, then, to be Soundwave, I don't think he should BE Soundwave. This is the first version that feels like the Decepticon version information agent.

G1 Soundwave isn't a character. He's a toy.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Mar 6 2012, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Soundwave should be like a Nintendo DS, and the games would be his 'lil dudes.

Still too small. Try GBA.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Mar 7 2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 7 2012, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soundwave IS a gimmick. That and his (also gimmick) voice are what made him cool in the first place in the '80s.

Prime Soundwave is okay, but honestly he feels more like, I don't know, G2 Skyjack than G1 Soundwave. Hell, he's already got the head.


Well, then, to be Soundwave, I don't think he should BE Soundwave. This is the first version that feels like the Decepticon version information agent.

G1 Soundwave isn't a character. He's a toy.


And Prime Soundwave isn't a character either. He's a cypher at worst and a parrot at best.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:13 PM

As opposed to a yes-man. Did cartoon Soundwave ever say anything important that didn't involve ejecting so-and-so for operation:whatever?
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

No, G1 Soundwave was the parrot (through aid of his minions).

Prime Soundwave, without saying a word of his own, actually manages to convey(very creepily might I add) the secondary notion that to him, information is power, with the way he carefully selects sound-bytes in order to manipulate any given situation.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

I'll definitely say that Prime Soundwave is a very different character from previous Soundwaves. But again, if we're talking about upgrades here and taking Prime Soundwave as such, he's a poor upgrade of G1 Soundwave. Taking him on his own and having no previous toy incarnation, then by default he's not an upgrade failure.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Mar 7 2012, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Mar 6 2012, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Soundwave should be like a Nintendo DS, and the games would be his 'lil dudes.

Still too small. Try GBA.

Or the Device Label Blaster route as some form of USB hub, with thumbdrive minions ala DL Ravage.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Mar 6 2012, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I'm the only one that doesn't find Prime Soundwave the least bit interesting. He might as well be another Eradicon.


I actually don't really care for Prime Soundwave, character-wise. Design-wise, sort of interesting, not really Soundwavey enough to me, but I got the toy because of the great suggestions of him as BM Jetstorm.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

Classics car Soundwave's chest seems too wide.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

Well, G1 Soundwave's chest was pretty wide too. But he also had wide hips, so the chest might not stand out that much.