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@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:05 PM)

"Someone" being me. No mystery to it, I used to draw a lot during class when I was in high school. I came up with lesbian ninjas, which were a specialized team of assassins with amazing hair and impeccable style. I scanned some of my drawings and mentioned them a few times on the ezboard 17 years ago, and people seemed to like the idea.

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Thanks in any case!

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Oh, wow. That is ages ago. 

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:03 PM)

ages ago meaning when the spark was still on ezboard

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:02 PM)

i think maybe it was part of a title of a movie someone posted ages ago and the "lesbian ninja" part stood out and people just latched on to it. please note this is possibly totally and completely wrong cause my memory is terrible anymore

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I don't think it's a fandom thing, I think it's an Allspark thing. Or that's been my perception. Mayhem has some lesbian ninja regulars now but I think the reference is much older. = ] 

@  Robowang : (15 November 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Who knows. I always thought it was stupid.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

What is this fandom's deal with lesbian ninjas? Is it some fantheory about Nightbird or something?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 November 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Huh my phone didn't even alert me for some reason. Guess it only does on the Mayhem Discord Hangouts??

@  BlackMax : (14 November 2017 - 09:41 PM)

Telly, you are FIRED as my PR agent. :D

@  Telly : (14 November 2017 - 09:05 PM)

you all dont know what you missed. there was fun. there were games. lesbian ninjas. tang and even a couple human sacrifices.


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#41 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Feb 25 2012, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cybertron Unicron. Hard to one-up a toy that is 90% homage to a fan favorite character with a toy that takes a lot more liberties and is a lot smaller.

I think that one was an intentional downgrade. I mean, it's smaller, and represents Unicron restored in a less imposing form after his body was destroyed.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Feb 26 2012, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Feb 25 2012, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cybertron Unicron. Hard to one-up a toy that is 90% homage to a fan favorite character with a toy that takes a lot more liberties and is a lot smaller.

I think that one was an intentional downgrade. I mean, it's smaller, and represents Unicron restored in a less imposing form after his body was destroyed.


On the plus side though, you can stand him on Cybertron if you have Primus. Then he's massive!

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:24 PM

Pretender Bumblebee was much better than the original with that ugly faceplate. He had toon face, a rifle and his arms didn't just move up.

Legends are terrible upgrades. If they had repainted their larger counterparts for the Classics like Starscream and Blades, then they would have been great but I just think, for the most part, they're too small and cheap. Noone can defend Legends Hound. Jazz might have worked for me as a Scout. I know most of you like them so we'll agree to differ.

Powermaster Prime is terrible. Oversized bug eyed head and stumpy arms. People complain about Energon Prime but he can reach past his 'belly'. If he looked like he does in the packaging on the back of the box, then I'd be impressed.

ROTF Nightbeat. Beautiful car mode, possibly my favourite repaint of all time but the Movie-style, alien head just doesn't suit my favourite Autobot detective.

Edited by windsweeper, 26 February 2012 - 12:26 PM.


#44 Mako Crab

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:33 PM

Transmetal Megatron to Dragon Megatron.

I think his TM body is the best look he ever had. Tan, black and purple color scheme. Cool robotic looking T-rex beast mode. The giant shoulder pads. The chest plate with the super evil looking Predacon emblem. The giant boots. The whole thing worked and he was just cool. Then he gets upgraded into a dragon and he. . .

* has that stupid yellow visor on his head
* tail coming off his head
* no shoulder pads
* cool chestplate is replaced by a. . . yellow orb in his gut? Makes him look like he's got a pot belly.
* Long dragon neck for an arm. Not as cool as the tail canon of his TM form.
* Red and yellow color scheme. Why even change his colors?? He's always been purple. At least when he loses the war, he'll have a job waiting for him at McDonald's. Red and yellow, y'know.

I was so disappointed when I first saw his dragon form on the show. Only 3 episodes to go, and they do that to him. Just sad.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE(windsweeper @ Feb 26 2012, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretender Bumblebee was much better than the original with that ugly faceplate. He had toon face, a rifle and his arms didn't just move up.


He had CLIFFJUMPER's toon face though.



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE(Mako Crab @ Feb 26 2012, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Transmetal Megatron to Dragon Megatron.

I think his TM body is the best look he ever had. Tan, black and purple color scheme. Cool robotic looking T-rex beast mode. The giant shoulder pads. The chest plate with the super evil looking Predacon emblem. The giant boots. The whole thing worked and he was just cool. Then he gets upgraded into a dragon and he. . .

* has that stupid yellow visor on his head
* tail coming off his head
* no shoulder pads
* cool chestplate is replaced by a. . . yellow orb in his gut? Makes him look like he's got a pot belly.
* Long dragon neck for an arm. Not as cool as the tail canon of his TM form.
* Red and yellow color scheme. Why even change his colors?? He's always been purple. At least when he loses the war, he'll have a job waiting for him at McDonald's. Red and yellow, y'know.

I was so disappointed when I first saw his dragon form on the show. Only 3 episodes to go, and they do that to him. Just sad.

Agreed, I don't like Dragon Megatron very much at all.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:51 PM

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He had CLIFFJUMPER's toon face though.

Well, yeah, because in the cartoon so did Bumblebee.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 26 2012, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(windsweeper @ Feb 26 2012, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretender Bumblebee was much better than the original with that ugly faceplate. He had toon face, a rifle and his arms didn't just move up.


He had CLIFFJUMPER's toon face though.

Which, to me, still looked more like Bumblebee on the cartoon than the Minibot's head did.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 26 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 26 2012, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(windsweeper @ Feb 26 2012, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretender Bumblebee was much better than the original with that ugly faceplate. He had toon face, a rifle and his arms didn't just move up.


He had CLIFFJUMPER's toon face though.

Which, to me, still looked more like Bumblebee on the cartoon than the Minibot's head did.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

I'm going to throw my hat in here and say any version of Soundwave past the original, in any continuity. Even third party versions have blown it thus far, and while Takara's MP3 version is very nice, its inability to store the guns and lack of an attempt at tape interaction (unlike USB Blaster) kind of kills it. Let's not speak of Cybertron Soundwave (although Prime Soundwave feels an awful lot like a better take on that design).
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

Oh yeah, and Optimal Optimus. It's crap. It's always been crap, even when everyone was raving over the damn thing when it came out. The colors are horrible. It looks bad in all four "modes", two of which are so tacked on it's painful. The original Ultra was a hell of a lot better.

Edited by Spark, 26 February 2012 - 02:56 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:58 PM

Soundwave's original toy is just too good. Weapon storage, simple but really fun transformation, not too bad in terms of articulation.

But the real kicker is the interaction with the tapes. The tapes are SUCH fun toys -- and there's SOOOOO many of them, especially nowadays.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE(Professor @ Feb 26 2012, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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He had CLIFFJUMPER's toon face though.

Well, yeah, because in the cartoon so did Bumblebee.

Pretender Bumblebee has Cliffjumper's entire HEAD, though. Cartoon Bumblebee doesn't have Cliffjumper's helmet.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Feb 26 2012, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soundwave's original toy is just too good. Weapon storage, simple but really fun transformation, not too bad in terms of articulation.

But the real kicker is the interaction with the tapes. The tapes are SUCH fun toys -- and there's SOOOOO many of them, especially nowadays.

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There's an undoubtedly overpriced third party Masterpiece version coming with redesigned tapes, but even that one may not turn out great. And Hasbro nearly always seems to miss that having an army inside his chest was one of the most appealing things about Soundwave. Now it's usually just a one-off Laserbeak or nothing at all.








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#55 Mecheon

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:06 PM

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ROTF Nightbeat. Beautiful car mode, possibly my favourite repaint of all time but the Movie-style, alien head just doesn't suit my favourite Autobot detective.


In Nightbeat's defence, he was actually originally supposed to be a homage to Botcon Packrat, not Nightbeat

It was changed last minute because they didn't think Packrat would be a good name so they decided to make him Nightbeat instead

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:23 PM

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Pretender Bumblebee has Cliffjumper's entire HEAD, though. Cartoon Bumblebee doesn't have Cliffjumper's helmet.

Cartoon Bumblebee has Cliff's helmet a lot more than he has toy Bumblebee's helmet.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 26 2012, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm going to throw my hat in here and say any version of Soundwave past the original, in any continuity. Even third party versions have blown it thus far, and while Takara's MP3 version is very nice, its inability to store the guns and lack of an attempt at tape interaction (unlike USB Blaster) kind of kills it. Let's not speak of Cybertron Soundwave (although Prime Soundwave feels an awful lot like a better take on that design).


Frenzy and Rumble head phones are also pretty bad.

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#58 Might Gaine

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 26 2012, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, and Optimal Optimus. It's crap. It's always been crap, even when everyone was raving over the damn thing when it came out. The colors are horrible. It looks bad in all four "modes", two of which are so tacked on it's painful. The original Ultra was a hell of a lot better.

I loved that toy--it's a lot of fun to go between the different modes and the toy is quite big. The modes didn't feel tacked-on to me. I've always thought of them as "futuristic". I like the Ultra too--they're just very different toys in what they are trying to accomplish.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:52 PM

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Universe 2.0 Prowl.

The Legends version kicks the crap out of it.

That's not right.

But, Universe Deluxe Prowl came out before RtS Legends Prowl. The newer one being better than the older one is the opposite of "upgrade failure".

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

See, I vastly prefer futuristic Transformers, but if you take the all the wings and wheels off, it can still go between robot and ape modes perfectly fine which screams "tacked on" to me. The only sticking point is the cockpit and huge electronic gun box which just kind of... hang out there in either vehicle mode.
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