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@  Telly : (26 September 2017 - 11:20 AM)

the chest drawer on my tripty is fine. nice and tight even with full tilt clinging on

@  Dekafox : (25 September 2017 - 10:14 PM)

Mine seemed to ahve teh slight door warping too but it's not bad enough that Full-Tilt's weight pulls it open, so I haven't bothered with chest screws yet

@  Dekafox : (25 September 2017 - 10:13 PM)

I did the hip compression too when I got mine earlier today. It was hard to tell when I did it enough(and the end of the spring still hurt a bit after a bit of doing it) but seemed to work fine. Also seemed very tail-heavy when I worked on getting him to stand angled instead of upright

@  BlackMax : (25 September 2017 - 08:51 PM)

@Tm_ You can be a dude on a TF message board, that's not half bad.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 September 2017 - 08:02 PM)

Oh hey, today's the anniversary of our universe, Quadwal -3760.925 Theta!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 September 2017 - 05:06 PM)

Thats good.. I can't do those kinda of fixes... can't do anything really.

@  Telly : (25 September 2017 - 03:52 PM)

one of his legs was tight so i had to do the fix. hes all better now

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 September 2017 - 02:53 PM)

Why are you doing surgery to Tripty?

@  Telly : (25 September 2017 - 02:49 PM)

got my trypticon. currently doing surgery on him. so nertz to you paladin :p

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2017 - 01:56 PM)

It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer Vincent fritters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Sad to say, I'll likely be picking up The Last Knight this week. If nothing else, it should look fantastic on 4K Blu-Ray, and my 4K OLED is still new enough I'm willing to watch things I hate if they look stunning

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 01:34 AM)

Yeah, I picked it up last time when it got the 3-D conversion re-release treatment

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2017 - 12:57 AM)

To be honest I think I'd rather a copy of The Lion King over a copy of The Last Knight, and I already own a copy of the Lion King on bluray...

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 12:36 AM)

I spent some time looking for a thread about The Lion King before I figured out the movie you actually meant

@  Noideaforaname : (24 September 2017 - 11:47 PM)

I kinda want to post in that "Win TLK on Blu-Ray" thread, but I don't want to actually win...

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2017 - 06:29 PM)

well TS to the toy gods. Website went back up, and I ordered it anyway. Wasn't even for me, it was for my brother...

@  Telly : (24 September 2017 - 05:50 PM)

its the toy gods telling you that you dont need whatever it was you were gonna order

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2017 - 02:49 PM)

Arrrg! Just as I was about to make my first purchase from BBTS in years: their website up and dies on me.

@  Msol : (24 September 2017 - 02:35 PM)

Picked up Slugslinger. Awesome figure except for some unfortunate mold degradation. His fists are so loose and held just by friction. Hopefully they don't start falling out randomly.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 September 2017 - 11:21 AM)

Probably in October/November as retailer flush out everything they can to make Christmas sales

@  Echowarrior : (24 September 2017 - 10:35 AM)

Will Thermidor and PRiD Twinferno ever hit US retail?

@  BlackMax : (23 September 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Found Infernocus at the local TrU today, he's still TFP Legion Abominus for sure, but metal as hug. Pretty cool for $5 more than a Voyager.

@  Shrug : (23 September 2017 - 07:52 AM)

Your PS3s traded souls.

@  2017 : (23 September 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Oh, odd coincidence, this afternoon my PS3 wasn't turning on. I seem to have fixed it tho.

@  Pennpenn : (23 September 2017 - 06:21 AM)

Oh great, my PS3 stopped reading discs. Brilliant.

@  BlackMax : (22 September 2017 - 08:38 PM)

Nope, that is a keen idea though. My team was Sentinel-Hulk-Haggar, Team Huge.

@  Bass X0 : (22 September 2017 - 02:17 PM)

Did anyone have a Prime team in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 consisting of Sentinel, Nova and Nemesis?

@  Robowang : (21 September 2017 - 10:06 PM)

Ok, I can't find the "Savage on a Ravage" pic that soneone pisted. Can anyone link me to it?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 12:47 PM)

I'm also sure you don't sparkle like a disco ball, otherwise someone woulda run you over by now.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

anyway I don't die in sunlight, I just get tired.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

correct

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 11:46 AM)

I'm pretty sure most vampires would cause a gremlin infestation just for the giggles.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 September 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Hmm, a vampire would have a hell of a hard time getting rid of a Gremlin infestation, wouldn't he?

@  OrionPax44 : (21 September 2017 - 11:13 AM)

Well then there's yellowing but isn't that all of them. I like to leave all my TF's in a hot car all day long to let all their joints turn to jelly.

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 11:12 AM)

what about sunlight??

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:50 AM)

KAIJU NOT FOR SALE

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 10:49 AM)

don't get any water on your trypticon, and don't feed him after midnight.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:42 AM)

I've had mine for two weeks with no problems. Just don't be a hamfist with it.

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 08:36 AM)

assuming they survive transport...

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 07:37 AM)

quiet you!

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 06:46 AM)

and the hips should break by Wednesday/.

@  Telly : (20 September 2017 - 09:00 PM)

just ordered tr trypticon. should have it monday :)

@  OrionPax44 : (20 September 2017 - 04:57 PM)

@Robowang I have one somewhere and I can send it to you. Don't worry about it. Just let me find it

@  Bass X0 : (20 September 2017 - 04:43 PM)

Sometime last week, I purchased Hasbro Windblade online then a day or two later, Takara Windblade was announced for only £4.99 more making me instantly regret buying Hasbro's Windblade. Guess I'll be giving Hasbro Windblade to my nephew for Christmas then.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:24 PM)

That whole flat-rate shipping thing makes the math easy.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:23 PM)

4 bucks

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:15 PM)

Hmm. How much is shipping from BBTS?

@  NightViper : (20 September 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Set of the four is still $22 at BBTS

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:00 PM)

Ramhorn is currently available from a third party seller via Amazon for $27.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Anybody have the TR PM OP trading card they don't want? I lost mine! Will pay you for it.


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#21 Robowang

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 24 2012, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm less concerned whether certain repaints are made available and whether or not there's a Botcon than I am about the dozens of people who have had their data breached and their money stolen or the dozens of people who have yet to be made aware of this issue and run the risk of their finances being compromised.

Given the amount of reports from both here and the GI Joe Club, I personally feel we've reached beyond the threshold of "a reasonable belief that there might have been a breach" and Funpub is obligated under law to notify those who've done business with them of a possible breach. Not only are they in violation of the trust between customer and vendor, but quite possibly the law. A law that carries significant financial penalties if found guilty.

That in itself should be enough to generate a response from the company, to either say "No, we can assure you that NO BREACH occurred" or "We believe a breach might have occurred" If they can't guarantee the former, then it means they do have a reasonable belief that it could have been. Failure to notify its customers in the amount of time that has passed is illegal.

Secondly, if writing to Hasbro will help reveal the scope of how many people are actually being affected by this, then it gives them the opportunity to investigate and come to a conclusion so that consumers aren't forced to draw their own.

Being worried about trivial things like club toys in the future is missing the point of this issue when people's personal and financial information are being sold to criminals around the world, Many fraudulent charges COULD have been prevented if the legally mandated notifications were given out.

Such irresponsibility not only affects the club or its customers, but it affects banks, the vendors where fraudulent purchases were made and Hasbro itself. Thousands of dollars, if not more, of money and time being wasted all because someone at the club didn't want to 'admit fault'.

This is a very serious issue and by now something should have been formally stated either way from the Club regarding a breach.


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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

I don't think we need to ask for an online merchant to comply with PCI DSS. That's up there with asking a driver to stop at a red light. If you don't, you get a ticket. If you process cards without PCI DSS compliance, you get fines from the payment card merchant. Enough violations, and you get CUT OFF. That's why merchants are as liable as the processing companies. If you keep on going with non-compliant processing companies, why should the CC companies trust you? They're the ones footing the bill for fraud.

As for yanking the license, meh. Hasbro would probably do that only if and when they had an alternative lined up. I've got metric tons of misgivings regarding FP as a customer-facing business in the event planning market, but a scorched-earth policy isn't going to get us anywhere. At the end of the day, I'd wager that if FP were to lose the license, it would either be to someone waiting in the wings, or Hasbro would take it in-house, if anything.

More than likely, though? Pulling the license would mean that we'd be left with a website and no convention, and maybe some mail-order exclusives via HTS.

It's not desirable, but neither is credit card fraud, and I value my financial security over some plastic toys and lining Brian Savage's pockets.



#23 lightsyder

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:17 PM

Just had to cancel my card. I renewed my membership and bought runabout after the switch over. Mine was hit for $400 in airline tickets.



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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(lightsyder @ Feb 24 2012, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just had to cancel my card. I renewed my membership and bought runabout after the switch over. Mine was hit for $400 in airline tickets.


And for clarity's sake, did you ever use that card on the club site prior to the switch over?

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:45 PM

Fun Pub has released a statement:
http://www.allspark....showtopic=85315
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 24 2012, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(lightsyder @ Feb 24 2012, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just had to cancel my card. I renewed my membership and bought runabout after the switch over. Mine was hit for $400 in airline tickets.


And for clarity's sake, did you ever use that card on the club site prior to the switch over?


yeah, i made a couple of purchases through the site last year and called in a membership renewal so they had my card already on file.

So, what kind of charges did people see? mine were for Jet Blue Airways...



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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:44 PM

Wal-mart, Gamestop, Nutritional Supplements, etc. Depends really on the 3rd parties that then bought the stolen information from the hackers I think.

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Feb 24 2012, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm less concerned whether certain repaints are made available and whether or not there's a Botcon than I am about the dozens of people who have had their data breached and their money stolen or the dozens of people who have yet to be made aware of this issue and run the risk of their finances being compromised.

Given the amount of reports from both here and the GI Joe Club, I personally feel we've reached beyond the threshold of "a reasonable belief that there might have been a breach" and Funpub is obligated under law to notify those who've done business with them of a possible breach. Not only are they in violation of the trust between customer and vendor, but quite possibly the law. A law that carries significant financial penalties if found guilty.

That in itself should be enough to generate a response from the company, to either say "No, we can assure you that NO BREACH occurred" or "We believe a breach might have occurred" If they can't guarantee the former, then it means they do have a reasonable belief that it could have been. Failure to notify its customers in the amount of time that has passed is illegal.

Secondly, if writing to Hasbro will help reveal the scope of how many people are actually being affected by this, then it gives them the opportunity to investigate and come to a conclusion so that consumers aren't forced to draw their own.

Being worried about trivial things like club toys in the future is missing the point of this issue when people's personal and financial information are being sold to criminals around the world, Many fraudulent charges COULD have been prevented if the legally mandated notifications were given out.

Such irresponsibility not only affects the club or its customers, but it affects banks, the vendors where fraudulent purchases were made and Hasbro itself. Thousands of dollars, if not more, of money and time being wasted all because someone at the club didn't want to 'admit fault'.

This is a very serious issue and by now something should have been formally stated either way from the Club regarding a breach.


Couldn't have said it better.

Edited by Cyoti, 24 February 2012 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:23 PM

QUOTE(Hydra @ Feb 24 2012, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't doubt that Hasbro will take note of the letter,
but what is the desired effect you're hoping for by organizing this campaign?

In other words, what is it you would hope to see them do about it?


If you've ever followed an unfolding catastrophe on the news - Katrina hitting New Orleans, the Gulf oil spill - then you've seen how people are psychologically disinclined to accept the true magnitude of a diaster, sometimes until it is staring them in the face.

This sort of thing is a wake-up call to make sure the powers-that-be understand that this is a very big screw-up.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:56 PM

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

I'll mail one in. They need this license yanked and awarded to someone who will be more responsible and have done more than read "PR for Dummies".

I'll take my chances with a new organization, the customer service CANNOT be worse than this.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:41 PM

I see no reason to think there aren't at least a handful of professional companies waiting in the wings to bid for the BotCon license. Those companies who've made their bread and butter the last twenty years running Star Trek conventions have to be drooling for fresh meat, AND they have professional experience.

I hate to be That Person, but this is something that's been waiting to happen. Fun Pub has always been completely unwilling to admit to any mistakes, and their web site was pitiful from the day it went online. The first BotCon I registered for online, I got a pre-paid Visa because it was frankly obvious that it was a security breach waiting to happen. I let my guard down after that, and now I'm extremely lucky that my bank decided to randomly replace everyone's Visa debit cards with Mastercards last fall and that I was waiting for a bonus from work that's scheduled for the beginning of March to renew my membership and register. I dodged that bullet, but knowing how close I was to not being able to pay my rent or my bills on time turns my stomach. Knowing that some of my friends can't pay their bills or their rent on time because of it is almost as infuriating. Why didn't they warn everyone and start investigating the moment it was obvious to everyone else that something was horribly wrong? Because they have always been completely unwilling to admit to any mistakes. This is just part of an ongoing pattern.

I've always made it pretty clear that I'm not a fan of Fun Pub, but I think BotCon is bigger than them so I haven't stopped attending. I would still prefer to see the con in the hands of someone professional and competent. Now that what was clearly in the cards years ago has come to pass, I can only hope Hasbro is with me. I don't want to see them lose the license for this. I want to see them lose the license for a litany of reasons. This is just the worst thing they've done.

#32 Chip

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:04 AM

I haven't read every report; how far back do these breaches go? Back in August, I had a problem with my card that I've never been able to account for.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Feb 26 2012, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't read every report; how far back do these breaches go? Back in August, I had a problem with my card that I've never been able to account for.


At least back to April 2011, it seems:

http://www.allspark....showtopic=84493

http://www.tfw2005.c...rd-numbers.html

I haven't had a problem with my card until recently, but I suppose it could have been from any of the purchases I made from the Club, depending on how long the hackers decided to sit on the info before using it.

I used the card to buy Cheetor and Ramjet (April 27, 2011), the BotCon Iacon Package (January 28, 2012), and Over-Run and SG Drift (January 30, 2012 - no errors during checkout and before the changeover to the new CC processor), but didn't get hit until February 18, so I guess the breach could have occurred with any one of them...

I needed to renew my membership (expires 3/4/12), so I snail-mailed a money order using the little renewal reminder I received the first week of February to them yesterday...hopefully it reaches them before my membership expires/the deadline for Runamuck passes.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

Sounds like they got me too, then. I know these things happen, and if I had any sense that Fun Pub had made a good faith effort to secure its transactions and that they had made an honest attempt to contact the people affected, I wouldn't be angry. They've chosen to fail on both counts.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:39 PM

Can't blame you for your opinions, but I really think they just need to make major changes in management style.
They also need a person who specializes in site design doing work for them full-time.

If FunPub loses their license, the excellent network of fan involvement in official TF fiction may also evaporate.
One thing I can compliment FunPub with is that they know how to make excellent use of the knowledge of the fans.

I like what Fun Pub has created in terms of fiction, and a lot of that owes to their connections to the fans.
If another group suddenly came in, we might not get that anymore.

I hear you about the managament issues, but I think we should really consider everythign that might end up happening if
the license was lost.

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QUOTE(Trixter @ Feb 26 2012, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see no reason to think there aren't at least a handful of professional companies waiting in the wings to bid for the BotCon license. Those companies who've made their bread and butter the last twenty years running Star Trek conventions have to be drooling for fresh meat, AND they have professional experience.

I hate to be That Person, but this is something that's been waiting to happen. Fun Pub has always been completely unwilling to admit to any mistakes, and their web site was pitiful from the day it went online. The first BotCon I registered for online, I got a pre-paid Visa because it was frankly obvious that it was a security breach waiting to happen. I let my guard down after that, and now I'm extremely lucky that my bank decided to randomly replace everyone's Visa debit cards with Mastercards last fall and that I was waiting for a bonus from work that's scheduled for the beginning of March to renew my membership and register. I dodged that bullet, but knowing how close I was to not being able to pay my rent or my bills on time turns my stomach. Knowing that some of my friends can't pay their bills or their rent on time because of it is almost as infuriating. Why didn't they warn everyone and start investigating the moment it was obvious to everyone else that something was horribly wrong? Because they have always been completely unwilling to admit to any mistakes. This is just part of an ongoing pattern.

I've always made it pretty clear that I'm not a fan of Fun Pub, but I think BotCon is bigger than them so I haven't stopped attending. I would still prefer to see the con in the hands of someone professional and competent. Now that what was clearly in the cards years ago has come to pass, I can only hope Hasbro is with me. I don't want to see them lose the license for this. I want to see them lose the license for a litany of reasons. This is just the worst thing they've done.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE(Hydra @ Feb 26 2012, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't blame you for your opinions, but I really think they just need to make major changes in management style.
They also need a person who specializes in site design doing work for them full-time.

If FunPub loses their license, the excellent network of fan involvement in official TF fiction may also evaporate.
One thing I can compliment FunPub with is that they know how to make excellent use of the knowledge of the fans.

I like what Fun Pub has created in terms of fiction, and a lot of that owes to their connections to the fans.
If another group suddenly came in, we might not get that anymore.

I hear you about the managament issues, but I think we should really consider everythign that might end up happening if
the license was lost.

-Hydra


I think the problem is, and why the folks who hope for a new company are openly hoping for one, is that FunPub is a rather small outfit. "Major changes in management style" would seem to mean replacing the existing management, which more or less consists of one guy; Brian Savage. And from what I understand, FunPub is so small that it basically ceases to exist if he's 'replaced'. The other alternative would be if Brian Savage undergoes some manner of self-induced "major changes" that finally addresses the litany of complaints the fandom has about how FunPub runs itself, and presents itself to the fandom. But the current record seems to indicate this is unlikely, or we would've seen the Club's website, forums, and infrastructure move out of the 1990s. And Faxing would have stayed there, where it belonged.

But that's my layman's opinion, and it could be entirely wrong.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:08 PM

It's not just you.

Fun Publications seems more like Brian Savage Inc then it does a "separate" company.

Edited by MrBlud, 26 February 2012 - 09:14 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Feb 26 2012, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Faxing would have stayed there, where it belonged.


My own opinion...

There's nothing wrong with having faxes. They're quite good for many things, even today, and they should remain an option.

They simply shouldn't be the only option. Nor should I be shared an extra fee for using them (that is, the "processing fee" to register for BotCon via Fax is, I think without double-checking the form which is in my work office, $25).

(We shouldn't be charged a fee for registering online, either, but at least that fee is a smaller one. Pick a price, and roll whatever you need to in that price. Don't add additional fees for every possible option one could use!)

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:30 PM

They've e-mailed past members too (according to their latest e-mails).

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 26 2012, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They've e-mailed past members too (according to their latest e-mails).

Randy

Oh hey, lookie there. I've received it.