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@  Paladin : (22 May 2017 - 11:43 AM)

where's GALVATRON in MP form dammit?! he didn't even get in for the anniversary year...

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 May 2017 - 11:35 AM)

I'm still waiting on the rest of the Dinobots.

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:24 AM)

The Decepticon MP cassettes are probably my favorite MP figures so far. Fantastic little dudes.

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2017 - 11:23 AM)

I want a Masterpiece Blaster if only because I'm fond of the Masterpiece cassettes and want Takara to make more. They should also do Slugfest and Overkill since they were in the cartoon too, even if it was only very briefly.

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:21 AM)

I just want the Chip figure. The only Autobot cars I have or want are G2 Sideswipe and Hot Rod.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2017 - 11:14 AM)

another Autobot car. "yaaaaaay."

@  Benbot : (22 May 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I haven't been this excited about a new MP since the Datsuns! He looks amazing

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:01 AM)

I love the little human figures with the MP line. Is it just young Spike, Future Spike, and Daniel so far?

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 11:00 AM)

And it comes with Chip Chase! I will order just for that! Holy crap!

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2017 - 10:55 AM)

Whoo! Masterpiece Sunstreaker!

@  Anonymous X : (22 May 2017 - 10:40 AM)

Less said about the Sinclair Microdrive, the better...

@  Anonymous X : (22 May 2017 - 10:23 AM)

I had two ZX Spectrum games on cartridge. Played 'em loads as it beat having to wait ten minutes for unreliable tape loading...

@  Rycochet : (22 May 2017 - 09:25 AM)

Super Bootspork!

@  Bass X0 : (22 May 2017 - 08:45 AM)

I remember doing the same for my ZX Spectrum.

@  DeltaSeeker : (22 May 2017 - 08:40 AM)

I remember loading games on my Vic20 from an audio tape.

@  Paladin : (22 May 2017 - 08:37 AM)

anyone remember "Chex Quest?"

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I never played those. I had, like, two-color bootleg files of Donkey Kong and stuff like that with 50 games on a disk.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2017 - 07:11 AM)

not pure text games, but you still had to use text input to do stuff. "PICK UP flask", etc

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2017 - 07:05 AM)

I think those were the old King's Quest/Space Quest ones

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 07:02 AM)

I remember floppy disk games! Never gamed enough to own one that was more than a disk, though.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2017 - 07:01 AM)

I remember booting things from DOS, and games that were like 10 floppy disks big.

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 06:57 AM)

*dies*

@  Robowang : (22 May 2017 - 06:57 AM)

Oh man, the days of Realplayer and AIM and man, I can't believe how long ago that was.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 May 2017 - 01:00 AM)

ugh, RealMedia was pretty awful. RealPlayer was so bloated and buggy, I tried to avoid it

@  siccoyote : (22 May 2017 - 12:17 AM)

I remember downloading Realmedia episodes of Beast Wars Season 3, days after they were shown in Americ, but the quality was terrible and the guy who did it wasted half of a stereo audio track because he recorded it in mono. Took many hours to download

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 May 2017 - 09:55 PM)

Yeah, I remember those days. I had a bunch of Quicktime clips from Beasties/Beast Wars and Reboot, most of which I had to leave the computer on overnight to get, lol

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 May 2017 - 09:49 PM)

I remember when it took 3 hours to download a 240p, 2.5 minute movie trailer

@  MEDdMI : (21 May 2017 - 09:02 PM)

and there weren't any rocks yet, they were all space dust

@  MEDdMI : (21 May 2017 - 09:02 PM)

I remember when there was no internet

@  Telly : (21 May 2017 - 08:55 PM)

dont remember what it was called, but i had an internet answering machine software back in the day. turn it on when i was online and i wouldnt miss a call. would leave it off if i didnt want to be bothered though lol

@  Noideaforaname : (21 May 2017 - 08:46 PM)

Remember when it was either the phone OR internet? Remember when photos had to be developed? And if someone decided to take pictures of their eye you couldn't tell until you got the film back?

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 May 2017 - 06:02 PM)

You're making us old farts feel old!

@  Foffy : (21 May 2017 - 05:20 PM)

Not me! I couldn't have known that in 1991! I wasn't even born yet!

@  Bass X0 : (21 May 2017 - 01:03 PM)

You only just realised? Everybody else has known that since 1991.

@  unluckiness : (21 May 2017 - 10:34 AM)

Holy jeez, Guile's theme does go with anything.

@  Nevermore : (20 May 2017 - 04:34 AM)

The "humans as processors" bit was also used in season 2 of Dollhouse.

@  Pennpenn : (20 May 2017 - 04:27 AM)

I just remembered, I wonder if the scene in Thor 2 with the kids showing the abandoned building with glitchy reality was inspired by the Animatrix short that had the same concept (but could handle it more interestingly)

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 May 2017 - 03:59 AM)

That is nonsense. Also, some men in black suits and sunglasses will be arriving at your doorstep shortly. Please cooperate and it will go much easier for you.

@  Whirl Maximus : (20 May 2017 - 03:42 AM)

It's not bull, the elite are using the 90% through wifi for their Androcide agenda. Learn the undisprovable truth.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 May 2017 - 03:26 AM)

I think there was an early draft where the machines were using humans as processors with the whole "only use 10% of their brains" bull.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 May 2017 - 11:35 PM)

Wasn't there an early draft where they weren't using humans for that?

@  Pennpenn : (19 May 2017 - 10:26 PM)

Yeah, makes the Matrix seem more like a nature reserve than a source of power, and I get the feeling the whole "humans as a source of power" was done pretty much to justify the machines keeping humans around at all without making the machines seem sympathetic.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2017 - 10:23 PM)

But after watching The Second Renaissance, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the machines still felt some lingering moral imperative to allow the human survivors of the war some kind of life rather than committing genocide. They did everything in their power to avoid the war in the first place

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2017 - 10:21 PM)

It seems like reverting to solar power would be infinitely preferable to having to maintain The Matrix and everyone hooked into it, and all the associated hardware

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2017 - 10:18 PM)

Although I think I remember hearing somewhere that the "clouds" darkening the sky are actually swarms of constantly-muliplying nanomachines? No idea if that's canon or not, but if it is it seems like that'd be something the machines themselves could figure out how to undo if they really wanted to

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2017 - 10:16 PM)

I dunno, for all their technical achievements those humans seemed just as shortsighted as in the present. And they were desperate by the time that was done, so it wouldn't surprise me if they just thought "ah, we'll figure out how to undo it later"

@  Pennpenn : (19 May 2017 - 10:00 PM)

Also gotta wonder if the humans had some idea of how they were going to fix the sky, presuming they won out, because otherwise they were basically commiting suicide out of spite and the Matrix would be the only reason humanity is still alive.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2017 - 09:07 PM)

One of the first things I thought myself after my first time through it

@  Pennpenn : (19 May 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Every time I watch "The Second Renaissance" I get the feeling I'd probably end up getting shot for being a machine sympathizer.

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2017 - 10:36 PM)

Yeah, Ghostbusters. Specifically the episode where they check out the live action Hollywood "adaptation."


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#21 Nevermore

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:28 PM

Streak (Bluestreak) and Stepper (Ricochet) according to the TFC Stepper reissue's bio. Oh, and apparently Fusion, too. Too bad this has never been shown in any acutal fiction so far. I'd love to see a writer find a way to explain how a hothead like Ricochet, who can barely stand the company of other Autobots, gets along well with a chatterbox like Bluestreak.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:47 PM

TFA Bumblebee and Bulkhead are the first Autobuddies that come to mind. Then you have G1 Ratchet and Wheeljack, and on the 'Con side, TFA Lugnut and Blitzwing.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:50 PM

Prime Wheeljack and Bulkhead.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 21 2012, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime Wheeljack and Bulkhead.

And Prime Knockout and Breakdown on the 'Con side.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE(Spin Out @ Feb 21 2012, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TFA Bumblebee and Bulkhead are the first Autobuddies that come to mind. Then you have G1 Ratchet and Wheeljack, and on the 'Con side, TFA Lugnut and Blitzwing.


I never really got the impression that Blitzwing and Lugnut were FRIENDS, exactly. Certainly, if they were friends it was a supremely one-sided thing, since Blitzwing seemed to actually disdain Lugnut.

Also, why Ratchet and Wheeljack?

Again -- I don't think, "Paired together regularly" really equates "Friends". The Transformers are in armies. If there's no other evidence, I'd assume a working relationship, rather than an actual friendship.

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(There's a bunch of 'stated' friends, where you don't actually SEE them interacting as friends. For example, apparently Sky Lynx and Wheeljack were really good friends, according to the US Marvel comics.)

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 21 2012, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Except when Rhinox voted against him and for Dinobot.


Huh. I always thought Cheetor was the one who voted for Dinobot.

On topic, Dinobot/Rattrap is an obvious one that I haven't seen anyone bring up.

Edited by Magnusblitz, 21 February 2012 - 06:52 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 21 2012, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prime Wheeljack and Bulkhead.
Yeah, Jacky and Bulky have a rad bromance.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:01 PM

In All Hail Megatron, Soundwave shows concern for Rumble after he's shot.

Other pairings:

Carnivac and Catilla

Needlenose and Spinister

In the US comics, Sky Lynx and Wheeljack were old buds.

Landmine and Cloudburst

The Race Car Patrol

The Off Road Patrol

Prime and Ratchet

Prime and Ironhide

IDW Megatron and Impactor

Hound and Mirage

Doubledealer and Hot Rod

Trailbreaker and Hound

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(Magnusblitz @ Feb 21 2012, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 21 2012, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Except when Rhinox voted against him and for Dinobot.


Huh. I always thought Cheetor was the one who voted for Dinobot.


Yeah, the defensive stance Cheetor takes when Rattrap demands which one voted for Dinobot, always told me that he was the one who did it. As well as Rhinox's exasperation at the second vote for Dinobot, like he hadn't expected it.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:03 PM

Animated Blitzwing and Animated Blitzwing. (though not always with Animated Blitzwing).
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Feb 21 2012, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 21 2012, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And.......why Bluestreak and Ironhide?


If they were paired together (I never noticed it) I'd suggest it was because of their voice actors. Casey Casem and Peter Cullen, respectively. Those two would have been employed for nearly every episode -- they also played Teletraan 1 and Optimus Prime. So getting them to play their secondary characters would be cheaper than getting in other voice actors (though there were also rules about how much they COULD double up, which makes it all the more complex).

I would also question the credibility of "they're on screen at the same time a lot" as evidence of them having a specific friendship.

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It stood out to me, as something I hadn't noticed before.

They weren't just on-screen together, there were specifically interacting with each other, covering each other. Like buddy cops, I guess. 'I got your back'.



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:50 PM

This falls under the heading of reading way too much into things, but it seemed like Wildman would consistently draw some guys together. The only example I can think of is Crankcase and Battletrap, who I suppose were SUV friends.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

You know, I always loved the relationship between Kup and Hot Rod in TFTM. Really, not much fiction has looked into it aside from that, or at least most of it deals with their post-Rodimus Prime friendship.

I just liked the dynamic of this arrogant young hothead and this grumpy old man who, despite everything, have this respect for each other and have each other's backs. It helps that Hot Rod seems to be a good guy underneath his attitude (rescuing Kup from the squid without even hesitating) and Kup seemingly having a soft side to him. For me, their camaraderie and friendly bickering really carried the whole film.

Edit: The fact that, by human standards, theirs is already an unlikely cross-generational friendship helped, too.

Edited by Fear or Courage, 21 February 2012 - 10:09 PM.


#34 Year Zero

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:12 PM

Yeah, Hot Rod and Kup in TFTM is a really good one.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:01 PM

Ironhide and Optimus in IDW, not too sure about G1. Ironhide was around a lot, but Cullen.

I always felt like G1 Mirage and Hound were good friends. Dunno why, they just seemed like they hung together a lot in MTMTE I guess.

Perhaps G1 cartoon Tracks and Blaster.

Soundwave and Megatron often feel like they are close in the G1 cartoon and at times in IDW.

Perhaps Energon Cliffjumper and Downshift....or was that Downshift and Cliffjumper? On that note, Demolisher and Snowcat shared a friendship of stupidity.

Bumblebee and Bulkhead in Animated, and of course Blitzwing and Lugnut. An argument could be there for Ratchet and Omega.

In Prime, we've got Bulk and Jackie.

Kup and Hot Rod are a great pair. Makes me wish we got more old fogey tfs.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:19 AM

Oh yeah, Carnivac and Catilla is a definite favourite of mine too.

Guess I didn't realise how many solid 'bromances' (I hate the word sorry, but it seems to fit well here) there really were.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:05 PM

well it does and it doesn't (fit)... its a story about guys (generally) and these things tend to happen

its not like you don't see these kinda topics come up in the pony fandoh my god I'm not even going to finish that thought.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:09 AM

QUOTE(Fear or Courage @ Feb 22 2012, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I always loved the relationship between Kup and Hot Rod in TFTM. Really, not much fiction has looked into it aside from that, or at least most of it deals with their post-Rodimus Prime friendship.

I just liked the dynamic of this arrogant young hothead and this grumpy old man who, despite everything, have this respect for each other and have each other's backs. It helps that Hot Rod seems to be a good guy underneath his attitude (rescuing Kup from the squid without even hesitating) and Kup seemingly having a soft side to him. For me, their camaraderie and friendly bickering really carried the whole film.

Edit: The fact that, by human standards, theirs is already an unlikely cross-generational friendship helped, too.


Their relationship was quite well featured in some UK comics as well. My favourite is the Annual Story "Ark Duty" which has Hot Rod - as usual - rushing into things headlong and making a big mess of carefully laid plans; when he sees the Stunticons attacking Kup. In truth, this was a set-up by Magnus and Kup to make the Cons think they stole the real plans to Autobot City, while Kup was only carrying a fake. In the end, we have a hilarious scene of the two beaten up Bots help each other hobble back to the Ark, while Kup notes Hot Rod's interference actually turned up good since it further convinced Motormaster that the plans were real. When Hot Rod notes that next time, he will rather not jump into things and stay in the Ark, Kup replies with a knowing "Somehow, Hot Rod... I doubt it." icon-hotrod.gif
Their first meeting in "Kup's Story" is also memorable, as it is Hot Rod reminding Kup of his younger self that snaps him out of his suicidal mood.

QUOTE(Boltax @ Feb 21 2012, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One of my all-time favourite TF stories is Marvel issue #23, "Decepticon Graffiti", and it's almost entirely because of the strength of the characters and their relationships. Runamuck and Runabout are one of the only sets of Decepticons that we're shown, in all of G1, having a genuine, hearfelt friendship. these two guys LOVe each other's company, and it's utterly delightful.

I think nearly every other Decepticon 'friendship' is either just a pairing, or something inferred. Even Cyclonus and Scourge aren't really FRIENDS so much as partners... they certainly don't express much affection for each other.

But Runamuck and Runabout delight in going on a massive road trip together, despite the fact that they're horribly destructive monsters. It's really endearing.

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Hear hear! It's one of the reasons I love those two so much. Even in later appareances in Furman's stories (Earthforce and IDW) they seem to work together smoothly and genuinely enjoy each other's company... even if what they do together is causing massive collateral damage while making bad jokes, like in "Perchance to Dream #1". Also, it was touching to see how distressed Runamuck became when the Reapers killed Runabout, throwing caution to the wind to avenge his friend's death.

I'd add Dreadwind and Darkwing to that list as well, though. Even though they mostly just mope and complain about things, when they work together it shows they do care about each other. The best show of this was in IDW's Stormbringer where Darkwing pretty much holds back Dreadwind from directly attacking Thunderwing and rather the two of them make a half-arsed effort only, thus surviving the encounter. 'Out to Lunch' is also a favourite of mine, since it shows the rare occasion how some Decepticons have a 'day off'. icon-hotrod.gif

And last but not least, I'd mention the Mayhem Squad's Needlenose and Spinister - although it is a strained friendship, after Needlenose goes overboard with his cautions due to his (well-founded) fears of Carnivac's revenge. But prior to that, Spinister - a professional soldier - makes a deliberate flop to give Needlenose a chance to avoid execution for his cowardice, because he sees potential in him. Their relationship was not really that well featured in the US comics when they re-appeared as Thunderwing's cronies, but even there, Spinister was the guy who did not take kindly to their boss endangering the lives of his teammates due to his obsession for the Matrix.

I am working on a fanfic myself about the (IDW version) of the Monster Pretenders aka 'Monstructor Six' - considering their predicament of being not only bonded together due to the combining process, but having been locked away in a dimensional pocket for millions of years, I kinda see those six as dysfunctional family, who - although united by chance rather then choice - have grown to a close-knit group of friends due to necessity. It helps that I always found their (G1) bios very interesting, especially Slog's and Icepicks, as they are not your average bloodthirsty Decepticons.

Another unexplored pair are the Con and Bot Clones - their MTMTE bios make them both sound as an interesting bunch.

Oh, and BWII - the Seacons are quite protective of each other, when the Jointrons kidnap Scylla (to have Bighorn "rescue" her and gain her affections), the other Seacons are quick to come to her aid instead. And everyone on the team is quite tolerant of ol' Coelagon, despite the old geezer often falling asleep inbetween sentences. icon-hotrod.gif

Last but not least, I think the only Decepticon Megatron has clearly shown to value more then just a loyal subject is Ravage. In both "The Enemy Within" and "Two Megatrons" this is made quite apparent (where the real Megatron hesitates about killing Ravage who attacked him).

Edited by BB Shockwave, 23 February 2012 - 07:32 AM.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:01 PM

Tigatron and Airrazor in the Japanese Beast Wars dub.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:07 PM

beat you to that one man lol,

most of the pair ups in g1 seem in retrospect to be half to do with who was in the booth doing what characters the scripts called for.

got two guys in there doing the a story... well lets have the b story be about other guys they voice.
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