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@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".


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#1 John Nemo

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:56 AM

According to the notice in my lastest bill, on March 28th, The Hub and the Science channel are going from Digital starter to perfered, the next step up. Now, my cable and Internet are too huge as it is, and There is no way I can afford a step up from my current package. I don't want to download, and I refuse to give Apple money, so I don't know how I'm gonna be able to see the show.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:15 AM

How about online streaming?

There are several live streams each week, ans you'll find all episodes on youtube.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:40 AM

That will probably be my move, but Youtube has been having trouble loading recently. It sits and sits and then only loads a quarter of the video.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:57 AM

It's a shame that's happening. If they want a greater audience, they should be making the channel more accessible, if anything, not less. It was already a part of premium packages on some services from the beginning, from what I'd heard. Even now, the basic cable packages (IMO, anyway) aren't worth half of what people pay; premium packages even less so. Eventually these companies will price themselves into obsolescence, given the ease with which people can watch the vast majority of things online.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

Oh No! This is......I can't even.........NO....NO.....NO........................


I have Comcast too, but my package is still the original 'Expanded Basic' from way before everything started going digital. My package isn't even listed on the website anymore and hasn't been offered to new people in a couple of years. But those of us that still have Expanded Basic got to keep it.

I haven't seen my bill yet, but I imagine this is going to hit me as well since my package is older than the hills. I'm hoping it won't, but looks like it might. I won't know for sure until I see the bill. In any case, this does not make me happy at all. icon-screamer.gif I can't afford to upgrade, so it looks like if/when this hits me, I won't be able to support the Hub anymore. THAT SUCKS!!! The Hub is one of the very few channels I like watching.

I guess a lot of people are going to end up in the same boat as a vast majority of the fandom are already in, having to catch a stream or wait for the episode to pop up on YouTube.



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Posted 20 February 2012 - 01:24 AM

This is going to effect Comcast too? I imagine because of so many people tuning in to watch ponies they decided they could make some money off it by bumping it up a tier. I wonder if The hub will be pleased with this to lose so many viewers and what effect will it have on future seasons if less people watch them?

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:41 AM

The Hub has always been Digital Preferred on my Comcast package.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:04 AM

Makes sense, since Digital Preferred is a higher level package. Any higher level package is going to have ALL the channels that Digital Starter and my old Expanded Basic has. I think Comcast giving the Hub and other channels the boot from our lower level packages is just Comcast trying to force us into paying into the more expensive packages just so we can watch the channels we should have been able to keep in the first place. Comcast already removed other channels from our lower packages like CMT and replaced it with BBC, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. They've been screwing up royally for a while now, and I'm sure all this is going to blow up in Comcast's face in the form of a vast exodus of customers heading over to a cheaper cable provider.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 04:06 AM

I don't have any form of TV at all, so I'm not affected by this, but this is still really crappy news.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE(Guardian Prime @ Feb 20 2012, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Comcast giving the Hub and other channels the boot from our lower level packages is just Comcast trying to force us into paying into the more expensive packages just so we can watch the channels we should have been able to keep in the first place.

Moving channels out of analog frees up cable bandwidth since the digital equivalent channel can be further compressed. As Comcast delivers more services via IPTV technologies (On Demand services) and rolls out DOCSIS 3.0 across their network, they probably need the space. And Hub's owners probably aren't in a position to negotiate; it was probably only a part of the package it has been because of Discovery Network's bargaining position but with their reduced role they probably aren't putting forth the kind of effort they did to get Discovery Kids down there.
QUOTE(Guardian Prime @ Feb 20 2012, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...and I'm sure all this is going to blow up in Comcast's face in the form of a vast exodus of customers heading over to a cheaper cable provider.

In most municipalities this isn't an option. Sometimes you have the choice of a telco (i.e., AT&T U-verse or Verizon FiOS) or satellite. Otherwise you go off and assemble your own IPTV package (Netflix, Hulu Plus, Xbox Live Gold). Cable companies do what they do in part because it's hard to leave.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:50 AM

USED to be hard to leave. Even in area's with no other cable options, you can still go to satelite, and when all else fails you can download or stream content from the internet. At least people within the US have the option of viewing stuff on the hubs website (Yeah, last time I was there, they hosted whole shows online... but as a canadian I was blocked from seeing it.). It's not like there aren't options, its just that some of the options either require more legwork, or are equally or more expensive.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:13 AM

I'm not sure what it's called, but it's actually the third tier package here. It is the ONLY non-sports channel in the package. (or was last time checked)
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Feb 20 2012, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
USED to be hard to leave. Even in area's with no other cable options, you can still go to satelite...

My apartment has no view of the southern sky, so that's not always viable. This is all stuff I've been struggling with recently as I really don't enjoy paying what I currently pay per month for what little cable television I watch. I'd be happy to give Cartoon Network money for full episodes in HD--which I can't even get now with cable--but I can't. I'd be happy to by a WatchESPN subscription, but I can't. I found out while watching Shin Chan on Hulu yesterday that it's not available on devices like Xbox with Hulu Plus, even though it's accessible for free from a computer. Those arbitrary restrictions really make it tough to drop conventional service providers completely if you want to continue to get access to the entertainment--this, I'm sure, is the point.

Despite the technical justification for Comcast's move, I still completely understand the frustration with this move (as I hope my subsequent comments make clear).

I'm not sure if this is a thread hijack now. If people think it is I can stop.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

I think it get to the heart of the matter very well.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

I'm so happy Xbox allows Youtube to stream, so now I can watch my shows on the TV instead of my pos computer. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Feb 19 2012, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eventually these companies will price themselves into obsolescence, given the ease with which people can watch the vast majority of things online.

That doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they're taking so freaking long to do it and that some genuinely good programming is liable to get killed off in the transition. The Internet on its own still isn't a viable alternative to actually getting a show on television in terms of reaching an audience and making money.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:00 PM

I am very unhappy! icon-megs.gif

As of this morning, The Hub (along with the Science channel) has been ripped away from my Comcast package. Even though I've been expecting it to happen for over a month now, I'm still angered to find them missing. This saddens me deeply. The Hub and Science channel were the only two higher channels I liked watching. My current package has now been rendered useless to me (as far as higher channels go.). I guess I'll have to consider possibly downgrading to the Economy package of which doesn't have any channels past 98 and save my self about $20 a month.

I'm really going to miss having the Hub. It had become one of my favorite channels to watch. Not only for Ponies, but also for all the other cartoons both new and classic. And now, all of us that have the lower level packages can't support the Hub anymore. I don't know how much this will hurt the pony ratings (and the ratings for other shows like TF-Prime.) I'm hoping the most it'll do is put a small scratch in it. If the Hub/Hasbro notices a drop in ratings, I sure hope they take into consideration the real reason for it and not think that people are losing interest or something.

So, now that I've been robbed of one of my favorite channels, does anyone have a good recommendation for a live stream I'd be able to use when the new eps role around? EqD usually has a list of them, but I don't know which ones are crap and which are the good ones. I would like to be able to catch a live stream that runs clean, clear and smooth. No glitches or lagging. I'll always catch YouTube when new eps come available, but I still want to watch the show when it actually airs. It's going to feel really weird watching ponies via live stream on my computer, rather than on my T.V. during the actual air time.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

I've been sticking with the Bronystate theatres, they seem to be fairly reliable for me, and they always have several running at once, so overcrowding doesn't seem to be a big issue. http://bronystate.du.cx/theater/


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

I just wait for the 1080p Youtube version, myself. Anyway, now that the time has changed I'd rarely be at home to catch it right as it aired on The Hub. In Canada, it airs (albeit quite far behind) on TreehouseTV, which I didn't know I even got until lately. I've never actually watched it on Treehouse either, though.

Generally, I share your frustration with cable providers. I'm often on the verge of reducing or axing my cable as well, since I don't watch a heck of a lot of it. But last week I got a call from Bell about their new Internet Protocol Television service, which is still only available in specific areas of a couple Canadian cities. I never bothered upgrading my cable packages at all after first going HD since I watch almost everything off Blu-Rays (or DVDs in a pinch), nor after the recent addition of a 3DTV. I never really liked the look of Rogers' Digital cable service, and while Bell's channel lineups looked better their only option (up 'til now) was satellites, which I've always thought were tacky. This new service comes over fiber optic cable (at least as far as the neighbourhood box, and then more conventional wiring from there), though, so there are no more annoying satellites to deal with. IPTV intrigued me enough (as a gadget and new toy) to take Bell's offer and upgrade, since the actual price of it (bundled with a much faster Internet than I had before), worked out to just a few dollars difference to what I've been paying Rogers for their crappy SD service. And it includes a "whole home PVR" setup, that will allow me to access the PVR's recordings (up to 150 hours of HD) from any television hooked up to the system. I'm not sure how much I'll actually record, but it certainly sounds interesting.

But I guess I"ll stick with cable again for a while and give this new thing a spin. Since it's all tied to my Internet now, it feels a bit more like I'm just paying for one thing. And when no TV is being watched, the Internet is supposed to get even faster since it'll have the entire 25Mbps line allocation to play with (which I'm told is going up to 50Mbps soon, to help those who have 4 or 5 TVs).

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:57 PM

Grats on the upgrade! =D I hope it all works out nicely for you! ^ .^