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@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.


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#1 Axaday

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:35 PM

I would have thought from the movie that he was at least 10 or 11. But Headmasters is set 6 years later, right? And he seems younger than he does in the movie.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:42 PM

10 or so. Head Masters is only a year later than Season 3/2010 in the Japanese continuity.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:44 PM

From what I've seen, they've never explained Daniel's age disparity with The Movie being in 2005 and 2010 (the Japanese version of the third season) being in, well, 2010.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:45 PM

It's the result of some sort of technobabble exposure to something, obviously.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:46 PM

You stop aging when you become an invalid tied to a robotic head for life support I think.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:47 PM

He was inside Unicron. I betcha he's crawling with hazmat inside. I think I saw some of it.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:50 PM

Exactly! Chaos gods cause, well, chaos.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:53 PM

The crazy Kiss Players everything-fits-into-G1 timeline actually did retcon in an explanation - between 2005 and 2010, he was in cryogenic stasis due to an injury.
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:19 PM

http://www.dailyscri...ansformers.html

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The Shuttle just zipped past checkpoint zeta.

ON DANIEL

Daniel, a classic twelve year old American boy watches the portable viewer which is like an over-sized Boy Scout compass.




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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:37 PM

either that or in stasis until they got to that other planet in headmasters and set up a space bridge portal...

sure living in space with giant robots is cool and all.. but spending 10-15 looking out the same one window?

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:56 PM

Space Bridges are super fast and convenient and so are Robot Trains. But interstellar travel never really seemed to take that long in Transformers anyway.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:59 PM

well for the robots..no, lol but

"what's 5 years?" is a different prospect for a million year old robot and a 10 year old kid.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE(SwiftEagle @ Feb 18 2012, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The crazy Kiss Players everything-fits-into-G1 timeline actually did retcon in an explanation - between 2005 and 2010, he was in cryogenic stasis due to an injury.

It's not in the copy on TFWiki.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:47 AM

Okay, this is peculiar...I remember Quez reading it in one of the timelines, I remember transcribing it, and there's an invisible-ified note about it on Daniel's page on the wiki...but I can't for the life of me find where we originally posted it. Frustrating!
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#15 M Sipher

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:59 AM

Weren't there TWO timelines published? One in the KP book, and the other... Binaltech something?


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:12 AM

This is the thing. I asked this before on the Wiki and couldn't get an answer. It *doesn't* appear to be in either of the timelines, so far as I can see. One was in the Kiss Players book, which covered all of history, the other was on the Atari/Autorooper packaging, which I *think* just covered the events of KP itself - the J-G1 timeline on the wiki is both of those timelines put together.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:18 AM

So, basically, SwiftQuez is INSANE.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:32 AM

Aha! Found it!

We were starting to think we were crazy too, since we looked through both timelines and couldn't find anything.

And the reason is because it's not in the timeline proper, but in the "Encyclopedia" section of the Doctor Bronner-like printing all over the Autrooper's packaging.

Under "Daniel", it says "A young American boy whom Hot Rodimus befriended on Earth before the Unicron War. When Transformers and humanity were at odds, he escaped to space with his father Spike and others. There, he was involved in an accident and is currently in cold sleep."
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:15 AM

None of this explains why he seemed to regress and become a five year old in Headmasters.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:40 AM

Maybe it was a brain injury.

(Given how geeky the KP timeline is, it's probably the injury from when he was chomped by a robot dinosaur.)
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