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@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.


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#1 (Deactivated) BB Shockwave

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:04 AM

I mean, seriously...

Is it THAT hard to program a port to PC? Really? And their reason is, get this... "because it?s outside the area of expertise".

Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.

Now I could go on about how we should hire Death's Head to force them to release the game to PC, but how about realistically? What could we do?

Would sending payment WELL in advance to pre-order the game for PC convince them? (IE, now?) 'Cause I would... and I bet many others would.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 23 February 2012 - 07:58 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:13 AM

Time to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 if you haven't already it would seem then.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:16 AM

Well... I was looking forward to FoC, but being a PC gamer, I guess I won't be playing it.

No, I'll tell you what this is. PC gamers expect more options. Screen resolution, FoV, texture options, a whole slew of graphics and gameplay settings that are common on PC games, while, from what I've seen, console gamers don't have, in part because they don't need them. I've noticed that often Console to PC ports will lack many of these options, suggesting that it may take a lot of work to add them after the fact.

Probably they just don't want to have to do that.

It would make a lot more sense than for the same guys who made WfC to suddenly declare they don't know how to make a PC game. WfC seemed to work quite well and I had a lot of fun with it on PC, but hey... I guess that's forty to fifty bucks I just saved. Makes me wonder if I really want that FoC Jazz as much now.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:26 AM

It's especially surprising they'd cite these reasons, when WFC has gotten extremely good reviews for PC as well. And I never experienced any performance issues either.

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 16 2012, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Time to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 if you haven't already it would seem then.

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I will never buy a console to play ONE game.

And don't tell me about other console games... I keep track of what's coming out, none of them interest me. My gaming interests are Turn-Based and Real-Time Strategies, RPGs, puzzle games, and Diablo-like action RPGs - while most stuff on consoles are 'vanilla' hack and slash RPGs (basically, FPS with a sword), FPSs, God of War like action games, and of course, various racing/flying simulators.

I was the same way when Transformers Tatakai was made for PS2. I was not gonna buy a PS2 (and modchip it) to play ONE game that interest me.

I might borrow a console from a friend, or go to him and play the game, that's all. But already all the modding possibilites are totally lost for FoC, and imagine what talented modders could have done with a TF game containing combiners and Dinobots. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:27 AM

Crap in a hat.

I don't have the funds for a console jump, I've been getting by on portables and my left over PS2/Steam library for ages.


This annoys me a lot, but at the same time, considering how badly they handled the PC side of things on WFC, I'm not surprised (No server/room migration, no checks on cheater/hackers, no DLC cause they are jerks).
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:29 AM

Disappointing I suppose. I played WfC on the PC. I prefer PC with mouse/keyboard for shooter games. However, I found WfC pretty annoying in robot mode with the perspective forced to the side of the character. And none of the bonus content came out for PC either, so I am not entirely surprised they aren't making this one for it.

I probably won't get FoC (or if I do, not until well after release).
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:30 AM

Waits for Quantumhawk to post...

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

Well balls.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:51 AM

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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:53 AM

I imagine it is entirely possible for them to perhaps change their minds in the half year until the game is released.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:53 AM

How is this news to anyone?

They've been saying exactly this since they announced the game. I give them points for focusing on what they're good at and hope it results in a better game.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:57 AM

- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.

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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.


What poor job? It ran absolutely fine for me, only froze/crashed maybe once through my walkthroughs, and despite me turning the graphics up to max (on a dual-core pentium with 2 GB ram and an ASUS 8600 GT card) it had barely any lag at all.

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Feb 16 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I imagine it is entirely possible for them to perhaps change their minds in the half year until the game is released.


They didn't for the DOTM game... Though I am not sure that one used the same engine. I mean, WFC/FoC still uses the Unreal engine.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 16 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Feb 16 2012, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.


What poor job? It ran absolutely fine for me, only froze/crashed maybe once through my walkthroughs, and despite me turning the graphics up to max (on a dual-core pentium with 2 GB ram and an ASUS 8600 GT card) it had barely any lag at all.


"This annoys me a lot, but at the same time, considering how badly they handled the PC side of things on WFC, I'm not surprised (No server/room migration, no checks on cheater/hackers, no DLC cause they are jerks)."

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:26 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 16 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.


Was that Pre-1976?

My Grandfather had a Commodore 64 (I think it's probably still in their basement.) I played a few games he programmed in for it. But we were always a console family. Collecovision with Atari attatchment. Then NES. Then, well every single major console (and some minor) released since then.

We had a couple computers during my childhood, but other than a stint with one of the Space Quest games, and Jeopardy, and You Don't Know Jack it didn't get gamed on much.

Console games just always seemed superior to me. You didn't ever have to worry about wether your system would run them or not or if you'd have to buy new hardware or patch or program or would just be out of luck. You just put the game in and played.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:27 AM

Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:33 AM

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Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".

But, ah well. I'll live without the game. That's what I get--I miss a few games I want to play because I lack the consoles. On the flipside, I have access to the massive indie gaming field. S'cool.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:36 AM

I just want to know whether it's coming to 3DS.

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No, I'll tell you what this is. PC gamers expect more options. Screen resolution, FoV, texture options, a whole slew of graphics and gameplay settings that are common on PC games, while, from what I've seen, console gamers don't have, in part because they don't need them. I've noticed that often Console to PC ports will lack many of these options, suggesting that it may take a lot of work to add them after the fact.

I can confirm that, if you've designed a piece of software around certain assumptions, suddenly converting all of those assumptions into configurable options is a royal pain in the ass.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:39 AM

I spend enough on having a decent gaming rig and a Wii for the kids, I'm not forkingout the cash for a 360/PS3 just for this. They just lost a customer.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".



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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 17 2012, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".



Except time, money, and patience.

There is no reason people cannot put the effort in to make a good port and thereby gain additional income from the product.