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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 (Deactivated) BB Shockwave

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:04 AM

I mean, seriously...

Is it THAT hard to program a port to PC? Really? And their reason is, get this... "because it?s outside the area of expertise".

Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.

Now I could go on about how we should hire Death's Head to force them to release the game to PC, but how about realistically? What could we do?

Would sending payment WELL in advance to pre-order the game for PC convince them? (IE, now?) 'Cause I would... and I bet many others would.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 23 February 2012 - 07:58 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:13 AM

Time to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 if you haven't already it would seem then.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:16 AM

Well... I was looking forward to FoC, but being a PC gamer, I guess I won't be playing it.

No, I'll tell you what this is. PC gamers expect more options. Screen resolution, FoV, texture options, a whole slew of graphics and gameplay settings that are common on PC games, while, from what I've seen, console gamers don't have, in part because they don't need them. I've noticed that often Console to PC ports will lack many of these options, suggesting that it may take a lot of work to add them after the fact.

Probably they just don't want to have to do that.

It would make a lot more sense than for the same guys who made WfC to suddenly declare they don't know how to make a PC game. WfC seemed to work quite well and I had a lot of fun with it on PC, but hey... I guess that's forty to fifty bucks I just saved. Makes me wonder if I really want that FoC Jazz as much now.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:26 AM

It's especially surprising they'd cite these reasons, when WFC has gotten extremely good reviews for PC as well. And I never experienced any performance issues either.

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 16 2012, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Time to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 if you haven't already it would seem then.

Randy


I will never buy a console to play ONE game.

And don't tell me about other console games... I keep track of what's coming out, none of them interest me. My gaming interests are Turn-Based and Real-Time Strategies, RPGs, puzzle games, and Diablo-like action RPGs - while most stuff on consoles are 'vanilla' hack and slash RPGs (basically, FPS with a sword), FPSs, God of War like action games, and of course, various racing/flying simulators.

I was the same way when Transformers Tatakai was made for PS2. I was not gonna buy a PS2 (and modchip it) to play ONE game that interest me.

I might borrow a console from a friend, or go to him and play the game, that's all. But already all the modding possibilites are totally lost for FoC, and imagine what talented modders could have done with a TF game containing combiners and Dinobots. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:27 AM

Crap in a hat.

I don't have the funds for a console jump, I've been getting by on portables and my left over PS2/Steam library for ages.


This annoys me a lot, but at the same time, considering how badly they handled the PC side of things on WFC, I'm not surprised (No server/room migration, no checks on cheater/hackers, no DLC cause they are jerks).
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:29 AM

Disappointing I suppose. I played WfC on the PC. I prefer PC with mouse/keyboard for shooter games. However, I found WfC pretty annoying in robot mode with the perspective forced to the side of the character. And none of the bonus content came out for PC either, so I am not entirely surprised they aren't making this one for it.

I probably won't get FoC (or if I do, not until well after release).
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:30 AM

Waits for Quantumhawk to post...

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

Well balls.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:51 AM

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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:53 AM

I imagine it is entirely possible for them to perhaps change their minds in the half year until the game is released.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:53 AM

How is this news to anyone?

They've been saying exactly this since they announced the game. I give them points for focusing on what they're good at and hope it results in a better game.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:57 AM

- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.

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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.


What poor job? It ran absolutely fine for me, only froze/crashed maybe once through my walkthroughs, and despite me turning the graphics up to max (on a dual-core pentium with 2 GB ram and an ASUS 8600 GT card) it had barely any lag at all.

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Feb 16 2012, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I imagine it is entirely possible for them to perhaps change their minds in the half year until the game is released.


They didn't for the DOTM game... Though I am not sure that one used the same engine. I mean, WFC/FoC still uses the Unreal engine.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 16 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Feb 16 2012, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yes, the game using the same engine as WFC is outside the expertise for the same programmers who made WFC, suuuure.


Considering the jive poor job they did with the PC port for the first one....yes, I would say it is.

I feel bad for the people who only have a PC that wanted to play this but I can't fault the developers for not wanting to release an inferior product.


What poor job? It ran absolutely fine for me, only froze/crashed maybe once through my walkthroughs, and despite me turning the graphics up to max (on a dual-core pentium with 2 GB ram and an ASUS 8600 GT card) it had barely any lag at all.


"This annoys me a lot, but at the same time, considering how badly they handled the PC side of things on WFC, I'm not surprised (No server/room migration, no checks on cheater/hackers, no DLC cause they are jerks)."

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:26 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Feb 16 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- BB Shockwave, depends on what your definition of "gaming" is. But I am gonna take a guess and say you probably weren't born yet when some of us were playing games on ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64.


Was that Pre-1976?

My Grandfather had a Commodore 64 (I think it's probably still in their basement.) I played a few games he programmed in for it. But we were always a console family. Collecovision with Atari attatchment. Then NES. Then, well every single major console (and some minor) released since then.

We had a couple computers during my childhood, but other than a stint with one of the Space Quest games, and Jeopardy, and You Don't Know Jack it didn't get gamed on much.

Console games just always seemed superior to me. You didn't ever have to worry about wether your system would run them or not or if you'd have to buy new hardware or patch or program or would just be out of luck. You just put the game in and played.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:27 AM

Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:33 AM

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Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".

But, ah well. I'll live without the game. That's what I get--I miss a few games I want to play because I lack the consoles. On the flipside, I have access to the massive indie gaming field. S'cool.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:36 AM

I just want to know whether it's coming to 3DS.

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No, I'll tell you what this is. PC gamers expect more options. Screen resolution, FoV, texture options, a whole slew of graphics and gameplay settings that are common on PC games, while, from what I've seen, console gamers don't have, in part because they don't need them. I've noticed that often Console to PC ports will lack many of these options, suggesting that it may take a lot of work to add them after the fact.

I can confirm that, if you've designed a piece of software around certain assumptions, suddenly converting all of those assumptions into configurable options is a royal pain in the ass.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:39 AM

I spend enough on having a decent gaming rig and a Wii for the kids, I'm not forkingout the cash for a 360/PS3 just for this. They just lost a customer.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".



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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Feb 17 2012, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 16 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good, the less shoddy ports, the better. If it's developed on Console, keep it on Console.

There's a flaw in your reasoning. No need for it to be a "shoddy port".



Except time, money, and patience.

There is no reason people cannot put the effort in to make a good port and thereby gain additional income from the product.