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@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:54 PM

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

Okay, seeing as no one else has posted anything about it...

I feel like it could've used at least one more issue. No offense to any of the people involved in the production, but it felt rushed.

That said, Optimus Prime taking on Cthulhu? Awesome.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:56 PM

Just read both issues, they went so fast it really needed more issues.

And while it was great returning to the Hearts of Steel universe, there were more Humans and Fish people then there were Transformers.

I also feel a little cheated, or maybe bait-and-switched, I was going to skip this but the first issue featured the Seacons, my favorite combiner team getting some page time, and I was hoping then end would be the Autobots fighting a cool Steampunk/Lovecraft Piranacon.

And they don't even appear in the second issue. icon-screamer.gif icon-megs.gif


Like I said it was great seeing the HoS-verse again, but I'd say the first Infestation was much better.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:02 PM

Could have been so much better. And how did Prime have a train mode before he even woke up?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:34 AM

"Hey Optimus Prime, what happened?"
"Oh, I just beat up Cthulhu offscreen."

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:22 AM

What!?!

No steampunk Piranacon in a Cthulhu pretender shell? Or even Octopunch, who should have been in this story?!

I feel cheated...

Then again, these crossovers will culminate in a final issue, maybe something will happen there.

I hope Guido shares some of the Seacon designs, or Bonecrusher, later on.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:35 AM

QUOTE(Echowarrior @ Feb 19 2012, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That said, Optimus Prime taking on Cthulhu? Awesome.

Yeah, it would've been great to see!

QUOTE(Fenix Twilight @ Feb 23 2012, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also feel a little cheated, or maybe bait-and-switched, I was going to skip this but the first issue featured the Seacons, my favorite combiner team getting some page time, and I was hoping then end would be the Autobots fighting a cool Steampunk/Lovecraft Piranacon.

And they don't even appear in the second issue. icon-screamer.gif icon-megs.gif

Agreed. When a great shape rose out of the water, I was really hoping for Piranacon. Oh well.

This story felt like it was riding heavily on the established popularity and knowledge of both Cthulhu and TF. Dixon seemed way more interested in spending time with the humans. At least he's good with period dialect.

The art was gorgeous, though! Guidi's still at the top of his game. It would've been interesting to see Su take it on in his new Mignola-esque style - it would've been the closest thing to a TF/Hellboy crossover - but Guidi's style works very well too. Speaking of visuals, I noticed Wheeljack wielding swords. Ah, cross-pollination.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:15 AM

Dixon sure likes to set things up and then run out of room and then resolve everything in two pages sorta.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 28 2012, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dixon sure likes to set things up and then run out of room and then resolve everything in two pages sorta.

I agree the pacing was terrible, but it goes beyond that. For all the time spent on it, the setup wasn't really much of a setup at all. If Dixon had had 5-10 more pages to play out the conclusion, I don't know what else would've happened based on what came before. With the first Infestation, the solution was inherent in the nature of the problem: The zombies came from another universe, and they ended up banished to a third one. But there was no apparent solution to not-Cthulhu, who was portrayed as basically this really old creature who's been on Earth forever. The protagonists were focused on reviving Prime, but even as I was reading it I was wondering how and why his return would change anything. Unless he was going to use the Matrix (which hasn't been seen in this universe yet) as a weapon, what difference would one more TF make? The closest thing to Chekov's gun I could see was Tesla's electricity, which I suppose worked in the Real Ghostbusters, but would still have had the same fundamental problems as Prime's actual "solution." Maybe BB Shockwave's right, and we'll see the real climax in the primary Infestation comics.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:27 PM

Mostly it reminded me of the first Hearts of Steel crossover. All setup, no real conflict or resolution.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 28 2012, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mostly it reminded me of the first Hearts of Steel crossover. All setup, no real conflict or resolution.

Ah, right, I'd forgotten he did that one too. I wonder what the outlines looked like that he showed the editors before he wrote them.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

Wasn't HOS originally going to be 6 issues though? Hence the rushed conclusion?



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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:05 PM

Yeah, and this was supposed to be two issues from the start, as per the format of the last Infestation crossover. That excuse doesn't really carry over this time.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 06:17 AM

Yeah, in the first HoS we got a rushed ending because (The) Astrotrain forgot he can, yknow... fly.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:17 AM

Pretty disappointing..oh well. I still appreciate what we got, but that offscreen fight at the end was terrible.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

I'm glad I waited and only paid $1.99 for this on Comixology. I'd have felt even more cheated if I paid full price for it.

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