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@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM)

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'... Into the future~♪

@  BlackMax : (28 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

God spelled backwards is dog. Cat spelled backwards is tac. Pterodactyl spelled backwards is really hard to pronounce.

@  Waspinator : (28 April 2017 - 06:46 PM)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

you too, eh?

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 05:40 PM)

Well, I don't know about you, but personally I clawed my way free from the corpse of a goat during the autumn equinox.

@  LordGigaIce : (28 April 2017 - 05:37 PM)

Yep. Also diseases are painful. And trucks are weird!

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 04:41 PM)

we're all someone's daughters... we're all someone's sons...

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Your creative writing professor is a god, then.

@  Diecast : (28 April 2017 - 03:17 PM)

My creative writing professor read that to my class once, all those years ago.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Sorry, whenever anyone brings up anything related to badfic, I immediately think of Repercussions of Evil.

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:29 PM)

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted. The radio said "No, John. You are the trolls" And then John was a shitposter.

@  Locoman : (28 April 2017 - 02:25 PM)

you lived like a spammer ans died to an moderator

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

He lived a spammer, and died a moderator.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (28 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill posts along with the good and let me be judged accordingly."

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Fool! Snark is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...


More than Meets the Eye Ongoing #2

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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:12 AM

It's Out!

And soooo... Awesome.

Two issues have turned Swerve from a nobody to incredibly awesome. LOVE him. And his vehicle mode is SOOO cute too. He's now jumped WAAAAAY up the list of characters I want Hasbro to do a new figure of.

And never have I been so happy at a vicious death threat, but boy does Whirl deserve it. That was a great moment,

Oh, so much coolness to talk about here but so little time to type right now.


ZacWilliam, reclaiming the suffix aside, I'd go Crusaderbot first myself... More comments when time allows.

Edited by MrBlud, 19 April 2012 - 02:33 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:53 PM

Post about it here.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:14 PM

I never thought Alex Milne would be the one to draw the absolute peak of Whirl's facial expressiveness.

Drift's new temperament suits him. I am pleased beyond pleased-ness with this issue and hope IDW aren't stupid enough to ever let Roberts get away.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 04:27 PM

My thoughts on issue # 2 commentary track style:

Warning. Lots of obtuse, half-explained, and random SPOILERS

Page 1.?
- Know these first pages really well from reading the preview a bunch, almost to the point where they feel like something that happened last issue. But it feels weird to skip over them, so commenting away...
- Love that Brainstorm is so in character. This is exactly who he should be. Proud, impatient, less mature prodigy that probably overrates himself a decent amount.

- Duobots are neat. If you're gonna invent original characters basing them on an existing concept/gimick is a neat way to make it work.
- Ouch.
-Love the sudden nervousness from Brainstorm when he realizes Magnus might have heard him. Every one has so much character in pretty much every interaction. It just makes the series amazing.

Page 3.
-Hi Moist!
-Boy Cyclonus is having a bad day.

Page 4.
-Skids has a great very Dr. Whoish introduction. Especially the warning behind him. Apparently he knew he would have a total memory failure. The question is why?

Page 5.
- And here Skids goes a bit Action Hero, while still having a very David Tennent Dr.Who ness about him. It's definately a new take on him, but it's fun and given his situation is a complete mystery to him as well as us, that's actually fine with me. I'm looking forward to seeing where Roberts takes him.

-Page 6.
-Heh, 1984. That number can't be at all meaningful to TF fans. ;-) looking forward to seeing what it actually means eventually.

Page 7.
- I like Rung and Ratchet but I think the most interesting thing here is that we seem to be catching a Ratchet whose just at the point of transition between being the old classic miracle worker/reluctant warrior Ratchet of The 80s and the old, worn and a bit grim old-man Ratchet of the new media (Animated, Movies, Prime). This Ratchet is just begining to really feel his age and is annoyed by it. A really interesting point of transition to catch him at.

Page 8
-Roberts may save Drift as a character yet. Relentlessly positive, new age-spiritual Drift is fun enough to make me kinda want the toy. Everyone's response to him really helps to sell it too.

Page 9?
- SWERVE ROCKS. Even if he wasn't awesome throughout (and he is) his line here about Whirl's facial limitation motivated rage would win the issue. icon-hotrod.gif

- See previous comment, re:Swerve is awesome. icon-hotrod.gif?
- Also, this is a good point to stop and say Milne really hits it out of the park this issue. I was worried that Roche's awesome new designs for the minibots wouldn't translate to anyone else's style but no, Swerve and Tailgate both look just as awesome and cute here.

Pages 11 and 12
- Ouch. Hard landing I guess.
- I had a disconnect for a second when Skid says he's unarmed and isn't. Figured it was an art mistake. But worry not, this isn't Heart of Darkness, this is, it turns out, intentional. It wasn't till my second read through that I really pick up how much Skids doesn't know what he's holding, like with taking Hyperion's gun. We'll come back to it.
- I like that Roberts is killing some new guys here. What LSotW did was show us that it's ok to kill characters if you make people care about them and?their deaths matter. If your gonna kill folks like this though. In an accident when they're not getting development before or after other than as weaponizing corpses I think new characters are mostly the way to go.

Page 13.
- Ok, when first reading this page I was very confused because I thought Ratchet had had Cyclonus brought aboard with Whirl and Tailgate at the end of last issue. I went back and looked though and nope, turns out I was wrong. He only talks about taking the other two aboard ship. I would say it's pretty harsh that they leave him beaten into unconciousness lying face first on the ground, but then he's been widely assumed to be a Decepticon so under those particular circumstances I think I can see them leaving him.

Page 14.
- ?Kinda cool to have Magnus and Cyclonus in the same room and on the same side for the first time since "The Killing Jar".?
-Cyclonus shows his true colors. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving robot. Whirl should be worried. Very worried.

Page 15.
- Love Swerve's alt mode. So cute.
- it's hard to say what I like more here. Tailgate's definition of "Metallurgist", the 2001 a Space Oddessey joke with Rewind, or that thanks to Swerve's comment a couple pages back Tailgate seems to actually think Whirl's name is "Nut-Job". The last one I think. icon-hotrod.gif

Page 16 and 17
- This is not your Father's Skids. Maybe he got lost on the way to some universe where he kicked total @$$
- for the record it's:?"Deep down, we are more like than unlike humans." Which, if less than dynamic, makes sense with him being an Anthropologist and all. Less so if he's never been to Earth in IDW continuity.

Page 18.
- Yeah. See. Whatever that is in his hand he's got a literal blind spot to it. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be something beyond a normal gun. Also... Does Tailgate recognize 1984.3?

Page 19.
- Ooh, Blaster and Brawn came with them. Cool. icon-hotrod.gif
- Wow Cosmos got a size-lift. Who's he think he is, Seaspray?
- Rodimus' final line on the page is just great.?

Page 20.
- Ok, I don't know any non repetitive way to say I love Swerve at this point.
- Also, I think I agree with Skids.

Page 21.
- I can't tell you how happy I am that Wavrider and the other obscure folks sucked out last issue will live.
- Boy when Tailgate said he'd take Transforming slow, he meant it!
- This is why Rodimus is a better leader than Magnus or Drift could ever be.
- Reclaim the Suffix! I will buy any toy Hasbro ever makes of him. But I guess Crusaderbot works too. Could we steal "Questors" from the Japanese?

Page 22.
- It's not a good day to be a Duobot.
- annnnd now it's hard to tell them apart again.
- It's probably an entirely new monster but if the Sparkeater turned out to be in anyway related to Bomb-Burst (yeah, I know he's dead) it would be the first time anyone actually used his awesome bio. Anyway even entirely unrelated I'm sure it'll be awesome.

Usually if I read a 5 page preview the rest of the issue would feel short when the actual book comes out. This book is so full of great writing and art it still felt like a full issue. And a great one. Can Not Wait to be back for issue #3. I hope this era of Transformers goes on forever.

-ZacWilliam, I'd buy this book weekly if I could...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 15 February 2012 - 04:58 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:32 PM

This issue was awesome!!! I have to wait another month now? I don't like that!

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:18 PM

This should tell you something, if my way too long not-really-quite-a-review above didn't...

This evening I went down to my permanent, by year, big ol basement shelves and pulled out Swerve, Tailgate, Rewind, Chromedome, Skids, Whirl, Hot Rod, Brainstorm, and Ultra Magnus and put them off on a table together as, y'know, a group.

-ZacWilliam, really wish I had G1 Ratchet, Cyclonus, a Rung and Drift

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 15 February 2012 - 09:26 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:45 PM

Swerve may be a redone Kup for the upcoming new CHUG line.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

Words are really insufficient to describe how much I'm enjoying this so far. Two spectacular MTMTE issues in a row. Swerve is by far the biggest breakout character we've gotten in some time.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:06 PM

It's probably an entirely new monster but if the Sparkeater turned out to be in anyway related to Bomb-Burst (yeah, I know he's dead) it would be the first time anyone actually used his awesome bio. Anyway even entirely unrelated I'm sure it'll be awesome.

I'm thinking the Sparkeater has something to do with the disc Rewind got from Swindle.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:24 PM

Only disappointment was that the little head shots at the end weren't done in the Ultra Magnus vision style from MTMTE #1.

Also, Squee! Blaster!

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:38 PM

Spot the 'Bot time...

-Who was Inferno talking to in the spread from pg. 19? It looks a bit like Grapple without all his "bling", or maybe a rare appearance by Tigertrack?

-In the bottom right, next to the guy who looks like Pointblank. The color scheme resembles Jhiaxus, but the chest armor looks like a giant face or something.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:23 PM

1. The front part of Magnus's truck mold looks like it was copied off Animated Prime especially the unique window design.

2. Rodimus's alternate mode kinda looks like the drone that comes with the FP Protector Armor.

3. Whirl looks he stole Tomahawk's body.

4. Sunstreaker is onboard so the crew is basically all the parts of the Autobot army that are deemed expendable or dangerous.

5. If there is a spark eater on board, it does give new meaning to the ship's name, LostLight.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:28 PM

Another good issue. It's really refreshing to have a comic (not just a Transformers comic) full of dialogue on every page. Costa was terrible with decompression, but I got this the same week as Uncanny X-Men, and there was a noticeable lack of dialogue there too. Really nice.

If I had to find a negative, I'd say that the story definitely seemed dialed down after how much of a (literal) bang the last issue ended with. Everyone gets recovered easily and the ship is on its way in 22 pages, no Quintessa or Junk-style stop here. The only losses appear to be two generics never mentioned before. Sure, it's only issue #2, so probably not the best time to start a crisis yet, but this really is still another introductory issue, giving more introduction for guys like Cyclonus, Whirl, Tailgate and Skids.

Here's my attempt to identify all the guys in Rodimus' crew from the big page spread:

1st row: Cyclonus, Blaster, Mainframe, Inferno, Grapple?, Cosmos, Smokescreen?,
2nd row: Hound?, Sunstreaker, Gears, Ratchet, Huffer, Brawn, Springer-colored guy, Powerglide
3rd row: Rung, Skids, Chromedome, Rewind, Tailgate, Swerve, Pointblank?, Jhiaxus-colored guy
4th row: Trailbreaker, Drift, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus

Ultra Magnus is carrying Pipes, Sureshot and Rollout on his body in truck form on the first page. And that's probably Hoist pulling Cyclonus up.

Edited by Magnusblitz, 16 February 2012 - 07:39 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:07 PM

That was, quite possibly, the most enjoyable single comic issue I've ever read. God damn a month is too long to wait for the next one.


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:28 PM

Is anyone else hoping Lockdown makes an appearance?

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Cyoti @ Feb 16 2012, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
4. Sunstreaker is onboard so the crew is basically all the parts of the Autobot army that are deemed expendable or dangerous.

I don't think you can make that judgment based solely on Sunstreaker's presence.

Well, Prowl did claim he could make do without all the Autobots who were leaving except for Chromedome last issue. But Prowl's a prick.

I don't think Perceptor, Ratchet, Ultra Magnus, Trailbreaker, and a gob of others fall into either the "expendable" or "dangerous" categories.

Edited by Wildwade, 16 February 2012 - 11:06 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 11:36 PM

Perceptor knows Prowl's dark secret, and Trailbreaker and Siren know bits of it. Getting them out of the way works out nicely for him.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:44 AM

I noticed something after rereading the two issues together.

Something's wrong with Ratchet's hands.

In issue 1, when they're overlooking the dead body of the protester, Ratchet complains about 'his fingers being too old and seizing up'. On the next page, he says the voyage will be his 'swan song' while holding his hand.
In issue 2, he pauses from fixing Rung to slam a hammer into his hand to get it working again.

The fact that they've focused in on his hands twice, and knowing Roberts cleverness in foreshadowing (think Ironfist), I highly suspect that the problem with Ratchets hands is more than just 'he's old'.

HIGHLIGHT to view:
I would venture a guess that he's terminally ill and he knows it.


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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:04 AM

Its the little things like that, that make reading these such a joy.
Maybe Ratchet just needs some cool hand lube?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:13 AM

Loved it.

It's great having two high-quality ongoing series.

I am positive that RID is my favourite of the two, but I still love this book too. (Curious about how much longetivity the premise has though).

The Ratchet thing is throwing me a little, as during the -Ations, he always struck me as a fairly young character.