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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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Rumor: Takara Masterpiece MP-11S Sunstorm & Encore Sixshot Coming Soon!


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#1 Meister79

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 07:59 AM

http://www.allspark....t/view/9985/20/

Solicitations for these are open here in Malaysia.

Awesome if true!

Edited by Meister79, 15 February 2012 - 08:07 AM.


#2 Walky

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:01 AM

I would get a Masterpiece Sunstorm. Yes.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:09 AM

Yeah, Sunstorm is a definite must!
And hope it includes accessories that blow the iGear one out of the water.
Please don't just give us the cape and shoulder pads like Starscream.

Edited by Meister79, 15 February 2012 - 08:10 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:49 AM

I've got a pretty good G1 Sixshot and while I love Sunstorm I don't really need any more Masterpice figures.

But I recognize this as awesome news for those that need them. Good move, Takara.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:53 AM

Great news Meister79! Thanks! I had the 1st Reissue but sold it so this is awesome news. Sunstorm is pure win win for me.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:00 AM

Well now that's interesting, guess I'll never be able to unload my IGear Sunstorm now. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:03 AM

This is awesome if true!

Most of these listings have been so far (barring the Alternity Banzai-Tron and Galvatron which no longer appear to be coming out).

I would have sworn TakaraTomy would never release a Masterpiece Sunstorm, but times have changed in the last year and almost anything is possible for them at this point.

He's also the best one to start off with after Starscream, considering his obscurity - people are less likely to buy him if they get the blue one and the black one before him (due to having spent the money on the mold 3 times already, the extraneous 4th is easier to skip by at that point).

So any chance we can get an Acid Storm colored like the Bot Shot too?

Sixshot is good news (and has been rumored to be getting a re-release for some time now - glad to see more official confirmation).

I wonder how Sixshot will be different, considering the changes to every other Encore figure that's already been reissued (or even those that have not been reissued have been changed).

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:08 AM

Yeah, don't know what happened to Banzai-Tron and Galvatron. I would have liked to get them.
I'm enquiring about the estimated prices of Sunstorm and Sixshot.
Sunstorm's price should be close to that of Starscream's though.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:18 AM

I hope these are not Asia market only and include Japan. I also wonder if Sunstorm would end up being an e-Hobby exclusive in Japan (like Black Rodimus Convoy) and a mass market release in Asia?

Anything else interesting on those listings Mesiter79?

Randy


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 15 2012, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope these are not Asia market only and include Japan. I also wonder if Sunstorm would end up being an e-Hobby exclusive in Japan (like Black Rodimus Convoy) and a mass market release in Asia?

Anything else interesting on those listings Mesiter79?

Randy


Those are only 2 listings at the moment.
And the estimated retail price of these are $449.90 Malaysian each.
Sixshot is priced the same as MP Sunstorm.
MP-11 Starscream had the same SRP.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:38 AM

Sixshot is pretty expensive then compared to the original reissue I believe then.

Also hopefully Sunstorm does indeed come with accessories (that are not the coronation ones) as it wouldn't be cool to charge as much for him as Starscream if he didn't. Though if he's an exclusive that wouldn't surprise me if they did.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE(Meister79 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 15 2012, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope these are not Asia market only and include Japan. I also wonder if Sunstorm would end up being an e-Hobby exclusive in Japan (like Black Rodimus Convoy) and a mass market release in Asia?

Anything else interesting on those listings Mesiter79?

Randy


Those are only 2 listings at the moment.
And the estimated retail price of these are $449.90 Malaysian each.
Sixshot is priced the same as MP Sunstorm.
MP-11 Starscream had the same SRP.


Re-check. That's just plain wrong. There's no way Sixshot would cost twice the MSRP of its original reissue (5,000yen) even with inflation over the years, assuming the MSRP of MP Sunstorm is 10,000yen.

MP-11 with the same MSRP as MP Sunstorm and Sixshot sounds wrong, too. HLJ has MP-11's MSRP listed at 13,000yen. The cape and crown is likely the reason why it's 3,000yen more than the previous MP seekers, and I highly doubt that Sunstorm comes with the cape and crown.

I'm treating these as rumors for now.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

Kind of dumb to make an expensive masterpiece figure out of a character that appeared on screen for what, 2 seconds? How high in demand could this be?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 15 2012, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sixshot is pretty expensive then compared to the original reissue I believe then.

Also hopefully Sunstorm does indeed come with accessories (that are not the coronation ones) as it wouldn't be cool to charge as much for him as Starscream if he didn't. Though if he's an exclusive that wouldn't surprise me if they did.

Randy


MP-03G costs the same on e-hobby as MP-03, yet some other exclusives cost more than their mass retail version, so I don't know how they determine when to charge more.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Megatoron @ Feb 15 2012, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Meister79 @ Feb 15 2012, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 15 2012, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope these are not Asia market only and include Japan. I also wonder if Sunstorm would end up being an e-Hobby exclusive in Japan (like Black Rodimus Convoy) and a mass market release in Asia?

Anything else interesting on those listings Mesiter79?

Randy


Those are only 2 listings at the moment.
And the estimated retail price of these are $449.90 Malaysian each.
Sixshot is priced the same as MP Sunstorm.
MP-11 Starscream had the same SRP.


Re-check. That's just plain wrong. There's no way Sixshot would cost twice the MSRP of its original reissue (5,000yen) even with inflation over the years, assuming the MSRP of MP Sunstorm is 10,000yen.

MP-11 with the same MSRP as MP Sunstorm and Sixshot sounds wrong, too. HLJ has MP-11's MSRP listed at 13,000yen. The cape and crown is likely the reason why it's 3,000yen more than the previous MP seekers, and I highly doubt that Sunstorm comes with the cape and crown.

I'm treating these as rumors for now.


Yeah, I'm asking the retailer I'm in contact with to confirm those.
But those are the numbers he was provided with.
Another Malaysian shop has listed an almost similar price, with a slight discount.
http://www.toywizard...eissue-sixshot/
http://www.toywizard...p-11s-sunstorm/
Of course, Malaysian prices are more expensive due to shipping already calculated into the retail price.
Our Hasbro Deluxe is $59.90 Malaysian each.

Edited by Meister79, 15 February 2012 - 10:26 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 15 2012, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of dumb to make an expensive masterpiece figure out of a character that appeared on screen for what, 2 seconds? How high in demand could this be?

Never underestimate the Seeker Mentality.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:22 AM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 15 2012, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of dumb to make an expensive masterpiece figure out of a character that appeared on screen for what, 2 seconds? How high in demand could this be?


There was also an entire comic story arc dedicated to him. And he appears in a handful of Transformers Animated episodes. And he had an eHOBBY exclusive toy. And a reissue eHOBBY toy. And an OTFCC exclusive PVC. And a Transformers Universe toy. And a Titanium toy. And a Cybertron Legends toy. And an Animated toy...


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

I bought Sixshot for ?50 from Forbidden Planet years ago, one of my all time favourite toys. Wish they'd do a Generations version.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:32 AM

Also there have been rumors circulating around that TakaraTomy is working on eliminating the desire for any of iGear's Masterpiece Knock-Offs. First they released a better version of Convoy, Starscream is due out in a couple of months, and a MP Sunstorm would follow that logic. As I imagine iGear's MP Sunstorm to be one of their more popular MP knock-off's (due to being a character TT has yet to do).

It would not surprise me in the least if this was an e-Hobby exclusive.

Randy

Edit: Also we live in a world where TakaraTomy released a toy of Wipe Out and will be releasing toys of Stripes, Wing Thing, Nightstalker, and Enemy in their mass release lines. Sunstorm is not nearly as obscure as any of them.

Edited by Powered Convoy, 15 February 2012 - 10:34 AM.



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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 15 2012, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kind of dumb to make an expensive masterpiece figure out of a character that appeared on screen for what, 2 seconds? How high in demand could this be?

You must be new to the way Japanese fandom works icon-fire.gif

Anyway, Encore Sixshot? Yes please!

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