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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.


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Something that bugs me about the new Prime toys.


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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:06 AM

Prime and Megatron are suppose to be the main draws of every TF toyline, but their TF: Prime: RiD toys are made from a lot of transparent plastic which will probably crack and break within two years. To me, that kind of makes it feel like Hasbro isn't planning long term with this toyline. It kind of feels like Hasbro expects kids to get bored of Prime long before they end up breaking the toys of the two most important characters.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:10 AM

And then in two years when the toys break, the kids have to by another representation of Optimus and Megatron. Whereas if the toys remained intact, kids would have a lot less strong inclination to buy more toys of those same two characters.

Seems like they are looking at the long-term to me icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:19 AM

I don't think that's exactly what's going to happen. Plastic formulas on toys are different nowadays, and have different mechanical properties. I was fearing that my PCC caliburst was going to bite the dust early beacause he's comprised almost entirely of transluscent plastic. and god knows I've fiddled with the litlle bugger's arms and powerlinked him to nearly half of my collection but he's still solid. his transluscent plastic and PCC pinpoint's seems to be a just a liiiitle gummier than the old energon clear-tinted gunk, and maybe that helps the figures lifespan somehow.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:32 AM

None of my BM toys have broken and they're covered in clear plastic.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:38 AM

The clear plastic is actually rock candy.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Feb 14 2012, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The clear plastic is actually rock candy.

Say goodbye PCC Minicons.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:40 AM

most of my BM stuff is okay but sadly that wasn't my case with BM Mirage. I bought him twice and bot times the shoulder pins were too tight , and the clear pieces broke, starting with a teeeensy crack. same with my Movie 1 Jazz sword cannon. I don't know if it's the weather here or anything, but some older toys plastics feel really stiff and not flexible at all compared to the new ones: My movie 1 legends movie barricade arms feel more fragile than his DOTM Cyberverse counterpart. Even a peg broke while just transforming him! but nothing happened to his DOTM self while doing the same thing.

Edited by Pony of Merak, 14 February 2012 - 10:41 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Pony of Merak @ Feb 14 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his transluscent plastic and PCC pinpoint's seems to be a just a liiiitle gummier than the old energon clear-tinted gunk,

I did notice this with the Animated toys. The transparent plastic seemed to become more flexible when the temperature was warm and didn't feel quit as brittle.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Feb 14 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To me, that kind of makes it feel like Hasbro isn't planning long term with this toyline.


I don't think they're planning short-term with this toyline either.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Feb 14 2012, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Pony of Merak @ Feb 14 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his transluscent plastic and PCC pinpoint's seems to be a just a liiiitle gummier than the old energon clear-tinted gunk,

I did notice this with the Animated toys. The transparent plastic seemed to become more flexible when the temperature was warm and didn't feel quit as brittle.


DOTM roadbuster small back windows have this same feel you describe , in fact, except for the green plastic used for the car shell, he seems mostly made of a semi-fleshy plastic of sorts. it makes it hard for him to hold some of the mech tech weapons since the thumb bends and provides no solid grip, but is a minor inconvenience because of the forearm ports and the 3mm bars close to the hands.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Feb 14 2012, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Pony of Merak @ Feb 14 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his transluscent plastic and PCC pinpoint's seems to be a just a liiiitle gummier than the old energon clear-tinted gunk,

I did notice this with the Animated toys. The transparent plastic seemed to become more flexible when the temperature was warm and didn't feel quit as brittle.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

Aside from plastic being a bit different and seemingly better now - a two year play pattern is probably about all Hasbro aims for with "average" kids. Maybe three at most. Don't forget, we are the anomaly in the equation. The target audience for say, Transmetal Megatron was not expected to still be tfing him fifteen or even ten years later. It sucks that he snaps at the waist now if you're not careful, but he met and exceeded his planned lifespan.
 
 
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 03:54 PM

yeah its not like the idea was ever for people to still have massive collections of the things for their grandkids to come over and look at all mint on card and graded.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Feb 14 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aside from plastic being a bit different and seemingly better now - a two year play pattern is probably about all Hasbro aims for with "average" kids. Maybe three at most. Don't forget, we are the anomaly in the equation. The target audience for say, Transmetal Megatron was not expected to still be tfing him fifteen or even ten years later. It sucks that he snaps at the waist now if you're not careful, but he met and exceeded his planned lifespan.

Transmetal Megatron thinks he's G1 Mirage!

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 14 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And then in two years when the toys break, the kids have to by another representation of Optimus and Megatron. Whereas if the toys remained intact, kids would have a lot less strong inclination to buy more toys of those same two characters.

Seems like they are looking at the long-term to me icon-hotrod.gif

Moral questions about designed-to-fail products aside...

I'm pretty sure Hasbro would have to go even further down hill if they can't put out a better Prime and Megatron figure than the Prime line's figures. In fact, considering the absurd availability of Prime 1st edition... you know what? Never mind. I've got laundry I could be doing, and nails I could be clipping, and phone books I could be reading. All of which are far more interesting than talking about transformers these days it seems. icon-screamer.gif

Edited by MagmatronPrime, 14 February 2012 - 09:35 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Feb 14 2012, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 14 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And then in two years when the toys break, the kids have to by another representation of Optimus and Megatron. Whereas if the toys remained intact, kids would have a lot less strong inclination to buy more toys of those same two characters.

Seems like they are looking at the long-term to me icon-hotrod.gif

Moral questions about designed-to-fail products aside...

I'm pretty sure Hasbro would have to go even further down hill if they can't put out a better Prime and Megatron figure than the Prime line's figures. In fact, considering the absurd availability of Prime 1st edition... you know what? Never mind. I've got laundry I could be doing, and nails I could be clipping, and phone books I could be reading. All of which are far more interesting than talking about transformers these days it seems. icon-screamer.gif


One really has to stretch to state Hasbro is guilty of planned obsolescence. These aren't real cars and planes - they're plastic toys for what, ten to twelve year olds? I mean, I know we're all crusty and bitter that Hasbro hasn't done what we specifically want them to but one teeters on the brink of conspiracy theorists if one believes Hasbro actively designs toys to self-destruct in a couple of years. If that's truly the case they're actually doing a pretty lousy job considering the few that go bad compared to the many many MANY that do not.

And hey, if you're really that disappointed in Prime I've got great news for ya - there will be something new in a couple of years! icon-fire.gif
 
 
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:50 PM

I dislike the clear plastic because I don't think it looks good. Prime's arms just look weird.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE(Professor @ Feb 14 2012, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dislike the clear plastic because I don't think it looks good. Prime's arms just look weird.

This. I would be a lot less adverse to the RiD Prime if his arms wasn't so translucent. I mean, it looks like a neat gimmick, but yeah...


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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:31 AM

I always worry more when its used as joints. The biggest contributer to this is E Demolishor. I don't know about others, but trying to move his elbows was always extremly stiff, and after few years, both elbows crumbled into dust. I've never had much problem with it when used otherwise. But It makes me always cuatious about my Animated Swindle as he has a lot of transparent joints.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:30 AM

My Demolishor is fine, too!