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@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:43 AM)

Or we could go "extinct" in a Singularity, becoming one with our technology to the extent we cease to exist in our current state.

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Or we'll be killed by Skynet and unleash a plague of von Neumann probes upon the universe.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Assuming all humans leave Earth, of course. Plenty won't, or won't be able to.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Technically it could be subspecies of Homo sapiens... But after a couple thousand years away from Earth, it's kind of inevitable humanity will evolve to adapt to strange new habitats.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

We'd have to adapt to different conditions, especially when we're unable to return to Earth.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:32 AM)

I can't really see humanity in its current state if/after we "go cosmic," though. You'll have different people adapting to living in zero-G environments, on colonies on other planets that have various conditions...

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

True.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Evolution doesn't mean extinction of a previous state always, tho.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Well, humans as we know them (Homo sapiens) will probably go extinct at some point as the species evolves further. That's only if we somehow don't destroy ourselves.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Oh, humanity will go hypercritical and wipe itself out long before that's a concern.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 11:04 PM)

All we need to do is built Diebuster to haul us away from the sun

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

Okay, well all of us will be dead. Jury's out on our descendants.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

But we'll either be dead or be forced off the planet well before that point, since Earth will turn into a Venus-style hellhole in about a billion years.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

[/science nerd]

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

About five billion years, actually.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 09:38 PM)

Go check that episode of Doctor Who to see what date they said.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 09:26 PM)

We got a date for that yet? I want to clear my schedule to watch it.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 08:46 PM)

There are some more immediate doomsday scenarios on a more local level, like the sun expanding and consuming us all.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 08:25 PM)

In a few trillion years, there's going to be a Big Rip, a heat death, a Big Crunch or a Big Bounce, so- wait, you're talking about Stargate.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 08:20 PM)

I just wish Universe had a conclusive ending...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 07:53 PM)

They had to try something new, and it didn't work.

@  Echowarrior : (25 April 2017 - 07:31 PM)

SG-1 was a good series. Atlantis too. Universe...dear god was that ever a misfire.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 02:56 PM)

Started watching SG-1 right before season 9. The Stargate were the last live action series that could hold my attention week to week.

@  Rycochet : (25 April 2017 - 02:52 PM)

Sg1 really lost it's appeal once they got too far into the ancients/ascended plotlines.

@  Gizmoboy : (25 April 2017 - 02:48 PM)

I enjoyed the movie. Never got into the TV Series.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 02:19 PM)

About twenty since I cared. :D :D :D

@  Whirl Maximus : (25 April 2017 - 01:50 PM)

ten years since Stargate SG1 ended.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (25 April 2017 - 11:05 AM)

it's all about that sweet, savory monosodium glutamate!

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

If you're eating cheap Chinese, nutritional value is probably not the first thing on your mind.

@  Paladin : (25 April 2017 - 10:56 AM)

depends on where you get them from, but sometimes the paper has more nutritional value.

@  Robowang : (25 April 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I have actually eaten the cookie without opening it before. I didn't realize it until my wife asked what my fortune was.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 09:18 AM)

It's like the fortune cookies. After getting so many over the years I just barely notice them.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM)

Sorry, yeah, I also dislike any policy which involves including putting Optimus Prime in teriyaki chicken.

@  unluckiness : (25 April 2017 - 09:13 AM)

That sounds like an unfair assessment of the teriyaki chicken.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:10 AM)

Yeah but there's no way they weren't designing it with the Optimus Maximus or whatever in mind. That said I could just be annoyed because I dislike the "every line must have at least one Optimus Prime in there somewhere" policy that Hasbro seems to have.


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 04:03 PM

I know a lot of people think the 8 Generations molds mentioned at UK and USA Toy Fair has them thinking that it's simply Wave 1 and 2 of the Fall of Cybertron figures (and not something separate from Fall of Cybertron). Just to confirm that's not the case since we are getting more Fall of Cybertron figures.

From http://kotaku.com/58...-store-invasion

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And he's only the beginning of what Jerry Jivoin, Hasbro's global brand marketing director for Transformers, said will be a much larger line than War for Cybertron. Will we see a toy of Autobot fan-favorite Dinobot, Grimlock? He wasn't ready to say, but Bruticus is too big a threat to leave unanswered.


The article features the stock photography of the figures as well as some in game shots of Bruticus, Onslaught (featuring his blue and green colors), Swindle, and Vortex (gray instead of tan, but lots of red).

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 04:06 PM

He's a husky feller, ain't he?
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 05:09 PM

These guys are coming out in the fall right?
So Hasbro might be counting everything after them as part of 2013's 40 Generations figures.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:55 PM

Ugh. I was really excited until the front page news about another TF movie in 2014. I reallize this is pessimistic, but with repeating trends, how many long-desired characters/molds will be canceled in the last couple waves because retailers are waiting for the new movie toys?
How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:00 PM

Some observations regarding the coloration issue: Bruticus' in game model matches up with the original promo pics of the toys we saw (and that are shown again with this article). And Vortex has a red head in game just like in the pics, although his predominant color is different for his bot mode screenshot vs the combined one.
And Onslaught's bot mode looks a lot like what the figure shown at Toy Fair looked like (lots of blue and neon green)... but that won't work for Bruticus (who is gray with a lil' green...)

So... this article and pics didn't really help clear up too much color-wise, did it? Lol.
Although I personally think that the more subdues scheme we were shown matches up better (minus Onslaught's bot mode) so I hope Hasbro meant they were going with something like it when they said the final figures will look "more like they do in the game."

I'm sure we'll know for sure by the time they come out. ( > ~ < )
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE(Magick @ Feb 13 2012, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ugh. I was really excited until the front page news about another TF movie in 2014. I reallize this is pessimistic, but with repeating trends, how many long-desired characters/molds will be canceled in the last couple waves because retailers are waiting for the new movie toys?


I don't think a movie in 2014 can cancel toys in 2013. If they were coming out in 2014, then I'd see a worry.

Of course, the 2013 toys will be canceled, just not by the movie. icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ Feb 13 2012, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's a husky feller, ain't he?


Damn it Fishbug! Nevermind that, I REALLY want a shirt like the one in your sig, but I want one of Waverider, Landmine, Grimlock, or Bumblebee, or... Any of the US release Pretenders really!


-ZacWilliam, has wanted a Pretendeer Shell shirt like that for a while and lacks the knowledge/skill to make one up himself. But I'm not a Metalhawk fan. Give me a US Pretender!

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 13 February 2012 - 09:23 PM.

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Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:15 PM

For some reason the "Bruticus is too big a threat to go unanswered" says to me Autobot combiner.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Feb 13 2012, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For some reason the "Bruticus is too big a threat to go unanswered" says to me Autobot combiner.


Dear lord I promise... um... something pleasing to you if I can have a new Sky Dive that looks decently close to the G1 design and colors.

PS Lord - Lightspeed would also be acceptable.

PPS Lord - Not Devestator, he's really overdone. But any other G1 team is pretty cool.


-ZacWilliam, feels the engineering design work to make a modern Scramble City bot this good kinda demands at least a second use...
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:41 PM

Thematically, Defensor is a decent opponent to Bruticus.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Fishbug @ Feb 13 2012, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's a husky feller, ain't he?


Damn it Fishbug! Nevermind that, I REALLY want a shirt like the one in your sig, but I want one of Waverider, Landmine, Grimlock, or Bumblebee, or... Any of the US release Pretenders really!

That can be arranged...
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:21 PM

Hey guys, remember when Kotaku linked to our board about that War for Cybertron reveal and it totally crashed us out?

Good times.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Feb 13 2012, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For some reason the "Bruticus is too big a threat to go unanswered" says to me Autobot combiner.


I still think it will be dinobots.

1) His answer came right after Grimlock was asked about
2) In the FOC video game, the counterweight to the combaticons is the dinobots.

3) I really want to believe dinobots are coming.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:43 PM

Swindle could make a passable First Aid, Vortex = Blades, Onslaught = Hot Spot.

Then you'd just need two new molds for Grooves and Streetwise.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:01 AM

Good lord can we stop with the terrible remold ideas already. If there is to be an Autobot combiner and it isn't an entirely new mold, I won't even think twice before skipping. Not even remotely worth my money, especially in a line like Generations.

There is a reason that 3rd party Bruticus kit exists as well as Hercules, despite there being "official" versions of both of those.

Edited by GALVATRON I, 14 February 2012 - 12:01 AM.

What is singature?

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:11 AM

It'll be answered by combining Dinobots.

Except they combine into a giant Dinosaur.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:16 AM

QUOTE(Cabooceratops @ Feb 14 2012, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It'll be answered by combining Dinobots.

Except they combine into a giant Dinosaur.

Magmatron?
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#18 Confuzor

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:26 AM

I'm a bad fan... I don't understand what is meant by "Scramble City". icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE(Confuzor @ Feb 14 2012, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a bad fan... I don't understand what is meant by "Scramble City". icon-screamer.gif
Limbs that can be hands or feet. Named for the animated special that heavily featured a number of G1 Combiners. In G1 it's specifically Defensor, Bruticus, Superion, Menasor, Abominus, Computron, and Piranacon, who all had limbs that were interchangeable across all sets.

Energon Maximus combiners are considered Scramble City style because they could do the same thing.


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Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:41 AM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ Feb 14 2012, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cabooceratops @ Feb 14 2012, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It'll be answered by combining Dinobots.

Except they combine into a giant Dinosaur.

Magmatron?

Could that mean a Paddles instead of Sludge?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.