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@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.


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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:06 PM



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:12 PM

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!


Was meaning to search for a trailer for this, but sometimes things just happen.


SO. FRIKKIN. SEEING THIS!!

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 01:24 PM

Well. I'm quite excited now.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

I heard the book was kinda... awful.

Maybe the movie will be some silly fun. Looks like it.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:05 PM

icon-silverbolt.gif It's so silly and out there... it's awesome!
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 04:07 PM

The book was entertaining, and wove some pretty believable vampire hunting into what otherwise would have been a decent straightforward biography.

This trailer makes it look like he's going to be too "purely badass" rather than truly thoughtful and deliberate like the historical figure as well as the character in the book. It's those qualities which made the book interesting, not the way he was *also* being badass.

I think Burton is probably going to be to the movie's detriment as well.

All that said, I'm sure it'll still be a fun popcorn movie.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:18 PM

I enjoyed the book but I'm going to need to see another trailer before deciding how badly I'll want to see it. I think it works better when the humor of the situation is played up more than the action. I'm thinking more Hot Fuzz less Underworld:whateveronethey'reonnow. The cast seems to indicate this is more just a first look trailer that emphasizes the wrong aspect of the movie, happens pretty often.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:35 PM

Aw'man, I'm never the first at posting movie things, I'm sure if I posted it last month when I first seen it, I would have been first QQ

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:29 PM

Count me in. I've been excited for this for a long time. The book is a lot of fun and the author also wrote the screenplay which is kind of rare these days. Nicholas Hoult plays Abe (he was last in X-Men: First Class), and Mary Elizabeth Winstead is Mary Todd Lincoln. This is actually one of my top ten most anticipated films of this year. Can't wait for it.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:17 AM

Johnny Cash vocals in trailer.... awesome.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

Just finished reading the book...wasn't impressed.

As a fan of Horror Comedy, there were only a handful of situations that could be called "humorous", but the fact the author calls attention to these sequences sucks the humor out of them.

As a fan of History, this book infuriates along the same vein of Beck and O'Reilly's "Action-History" tales. The implication that World War 2 somehow was the "sequel" to the Civil War was especially jarring. That being said, the irritation more stems from the flippancy the author treats historical figures and events to serve for his "plot". The actual historical research is incredibly well done and brought to life vividly. Case in point: I had to go research John Parker after reading the book because it all sounded so incredible. Sure enough...Lincoln's Bodyguard at the Ford Theater on the night he was assassinated did indeed move from his place by the box to a seat where he could see the stage and then ended up in a bar across the street drinking.

What the book failed to mention (Quite to my shock, since it is a juicy little bit) is that the inept guard was assigned to guard Mrs. Lincoln after the assassination. She didn't take it well.

As a fan of classical Vampires, this book is actually a treat and is the only reason I actually kept reading. The Vampire Hunting scenes are all extremely dynamic and engrossing, and the Vampires are represented well and the alterations made to them (The older they get, the more tolerant they are to daylight, but their eyes remain sensitive and thus normally walk around with dark tinted glasses) were decent.


Overall, I could have forgiven the book if it weren't for the final chapter. Talk about a cop out ending that makes no lick of sense in regards to the character presented over the course of the book. Much like David Weber's Out of the Dark an otherwise fun romp is marred beyond redemption by a lousy, out of nowhere ending.

I'll likely pass on the movie.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:18 PM

Ouch! Doesn't sound good.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

I hadn't been infuriated with the flippancy with which it treats historical figures. The man was President - of course he's going to have run into many important historical figures as a matter of course. icon-hotrod.gif

I can forgive the recasting of the Civil War to be about something it wasn't really about, because that conceit set up, as you put it Rust, set up some pretty entertaining vampire hunting scenes.

As I said above, I was impressed by how much it wasn't actually meant to be a comedy, but was a pretty serviceable biography of Lincoln. I mean, if you cut the vampire stuff out, you'd have learned a lot about the kind of man he was, his career path, and the ethical and military struggles he endured during the war. It's the concept that's silly, but the book still took itself seriously enough to not be too ridiculous.

I agree though, the ending sort of boned some of that just for the sake of coming up with something kewl. So that stank. But that hardly colored my whole perception of the book.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Apr 4 2012, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree though, the ending sort of boned some of that just for the sake of coming up with something kewl. So that stank. But that hardly colored my whole perception of the book.


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Lincoln was adamant about his hatred of Vampires to the point he twice refused to "damn" his dead children when Henry offered to raise them afterward. At what point did Henry think Abe would take being raised himself well?

Just a stupid set up that lets Lincoln be there for MLK Jr's Speech. Not even bothering to wrap up that doofy shop keeper set up from the opening.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:23 AM

So, when can we expect a movie revealing that Stalin was a literal man of steel, being a cyborg sent from the future by communist agents?

Or about Elvis' adventures in out of space, after he was abducted by aliens? icon-hotrod.gif

Oddly, this movie doesn't seem to be about to be released in Hungary anytime soon, I guess I'll have to find some good cams, as I am interested in this, despite the goofy setup. Vampires or no vampires, I always found Lincoln an interesting historical figure.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Apr 5 2012, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or about Elvis' adventures in out of space, after he was abducted by aliens? icon-hotrod.gif


Well we kinda got that, Retired old Elvis fighting a soul stealing Mummy icon-waspy.gif


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:10 AM

Yep! Right there with you on both those points, Rust!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

The trailer gives me the impression that Lincoln will probably only have his beard for 20 minutes and the rest will be a 'young Lincoln' for the ladies.

I will get no small amount of amusement when/if deviantart and tumblr are flooded with historically-inaccurate Lincoln fangirls and pretty-boy/bishie Lincoln fan-art.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:53 AM

... some males look good with a beard. Just sayin'

...not that I'm biased... much...

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