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Hey man, don't dongshame.

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#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?


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Is the Masterpiece line dead in the US?


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#1 M-A-K

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:43 AM

One thing I was hoping for was a US release of the newest MP Optimus or Thundercracker. Maybe some news at Botcon?

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:55 AM

Optimus is a possibility; there's usually a LONG time between the original release of a Masterpiece figure and a US release announcement.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:54 AM

Masterpieces aren't really such rapid-fire releases that going a few months without hearing about a new one is cause for rioting in the streets.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:02 AM

We found out about Rodimus Prime while most of us were at BotCon 2011, so I doubt we'll be hearing anything for a while.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:08 AM

Given the negative complaints I've heard concerning Rodimus and the expense related to the size class, I wouldn't be shocked if we didn't see many more Masterpiece releases stateside.

Then again, what do I know?


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:11 AM

I don't think it's dead so much, as it was never really alive. It's just a thing where we might get something out of it every couple of years, if they can find a retailer willing to carry the very specific, high-end product as an exclusive.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:50 PM

I never had much use for Masterpiece. Costs a lot and way oversized for my collection. I'd rather buy 10-20 legends for the same money.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Feb 12 2012, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it's dead so much, as it was never really alive. It's just a thing where we might get something out of it every couple of years, if they can find a retailer willing to carry the very specific, high-end product as an exclusive.

This. More or less.

I never really got the feeling it was meant to be a thing in the US, just that they were bringing them over as they saw it profitable to do so.

That said... I would really love to see a US release of the new Masterpiece Prime. Even if they did away with the trailer to cut costs, that guy looks pretty amazing icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:17 AM

If dead equals about 1 per year (2011 Rodimus, 2010 Grimlock, Skywarp 2008, Starscream 2007, Optimus 2006, Optimus 2004). I guess 2009 didn't see a release if that counts as dead? icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:52 AM

I would be really surprised if they don't bring a trailer-less version of the new MP Prime over here at some point. Might take a couple of years, but it's Prime, so it's more of a seller than Skywarp or Rodimus even.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 05:54 PM

I've been hoping for Wal-Mart to do Thundercracker since they had the others. And I think Hasbro's choice of plastic color would be much better than the Tak version. For me anyway, that's been the case for the last two jets. I was surprised Wal-Mart didn't do that this past year. Hopefully this year. If not then TRU seems willing to take them. They've done the last two with lots of success.
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

Yeah; people talking about dead are jumping the gun.

I'm guessing MP-10 is gonna be the Masterpiece release this year. Rodimus Prime/Grimlock sold well enough from what I saw.

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 07:24 PM

Masterpieces have sold very well at TRU, better than any other TF exclusive over the last few years.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

I'd fully expect a trailer-less new MP Optimus at TRU within a year or so.

Masterpiece stuff isn't really a "line" in the US anyway. It's a collector novelty item, so it just requires time.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Feb 12 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That said... I would really love to see a US release of the new Masterpiece Prime. Even if they did away with the trailer to cut costs, that guy looks pretty amazing icon-hotrod.gif

I would HOPE they'd do away with the trailer, but then, I'm not fond of big boxes that don't really do much but take up space. Even awesome trailers like RID Scourge's don't do much for me.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:04 PM

If it?s not dead in the US, it should be. The Masterpiece line should be a no-expense-barred line of figures where expense and ?safety? are not considerations so designers can build with as much detail and complexity as possible to make a truly ?masterpiece? representation of a character. Hasbro instead tends to cheapen them with inferior paint, fewer accessories, and clipped or rounded points to the effect they?re no longer ultimate masterpieces. Go all out or not at all, I say. But the US releases are at least good for those who want a masterpiece-ish figure but can?t afford the Takara version.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:05 PM


we have the TF 30 annniversarya around 2014, maybe we will have more masterpiece related news next year. who knows?
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Feb 12 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeremy @ Feb 12 2012, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it's dead so much, as it was never really alive. It's just a thing where we might get something out of it every couple of years, if they can find a retailer willing to carry the very specific, high-end product as an exclusive.

This. More or less.

I never really got the feeling it was meant to be a thing in the US, just that they were bringing them over as they saw it profitable to do so.


Just agreeing on similar lines. Hasbro has seen that they can make a profit off toy designs that would come out of Japan, regardless of their involvement. So, they're making a profit.

Of course, that doesn't mean we'll get every Masterpiece mold over here. I doubt we'll ever see Megatron's face. And I really don't think Takara will ever touch a tank version.

I know of no G2 cartoon in Japan (or comic book, but I admit I'm on even shakier ground here), and suspect that it's not all that endearing (but I could be wrong). As for creating a whole new mold, just to satisfy US toy laws, well I don't see that happening.


We might eventually see something along the lines of Alternity, but not in the same size class as Masterpiece. Plus, it isn't clear that Hasbro would bring it over, since Alternity, Music Label & other toy lines seem to be resistent to import.
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 14 2012, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it’s not dead in the US, it should be. The Masterpiece line should be a no-expense-barred line of figures where expense and “safety” are not considerations so designers can build with as much detail and complexity as possible to make a truly “masterpiece” representation of a character. Hasbro instead tends to cheapen them with inferior paint, fewer accessories, and clipped or rounded points to the effect they’re no longer ultimate masterpieces. Go all out or not at all, I say. But the US releases are at least good for those who want a masterpiece-ish figure but can’t afford the Takara version.


Hasbro wants the figure designed and intended for 25-year-olds to be able to sell to little Billy the 5-year-old bed-wetter prone to wearing his socks on his penis.

They produce toys within a paradox that even Michio Kaku himself has yet to fully understand.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 02:51 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 15 2012, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Benbot @ Feb 14 2012, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it?s not dead in the US, it should be. The Masterpiece line should be a no-expense-barred line of figures where expense and ?safety? are not considerations so designers can build with as much detail and complexity as possible to make a truly ?masterpiece? representation of a character. Hasbro instead tends to cheapen them with inferior paint, fewer accessories, and clipped or rounded points to the effect they?re no longer ultimate masterpieces. Go all out or not at all, I say. But the US releases are at least good for those who want a masterpiece-ish figure but can?t afford the Takara version.


Hasbro wants the figure designed and intended for 25-year-olds to be able to sell to little Billy the 5-year-old bed-wetter prone to wearing his socks on his penis.

They produce toys within a paradox that even Michio Kaku himself has yet to fully understand.

It's still sold as a toy, therefore it has to pass toy safety regulations. Not complicated.