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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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Which continuation of Marvel G1 is the most definitive?

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#1 Starfield

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

I know the are all "official," but which series, Generation 2, Classics, or Regeneration One is the continuation of the G1 comics?

Regeneration One is staking a claim by having the issues numbered in sequence, starting with #80.5 and going to #100.

Generation 2 deliberately sets itself apart. It is a different franchise. It deliberately sets a new style and tone. Criminy, the first issue boldly declares "this is not your father's Autobot" on the cover, so I think it is undermines its own claim to be the definitive continuation. On the other hand, it is in indirect continuity through G.I. Joe. Or at least the Joe issues starring Transformers are.

I don't know enough about Classics fiction to comment.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:40 PM

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

I am going to say Recordicons.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

The Big Looker books, obviously.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:52 PM

Eugenesis.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

Generation 2. I don't see how this is even a question.

It had Geoff Senior working on it.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

Note to self: Get Geoff Senior to draw Recordicons.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:40 PM

G2 is the actual Marvel continuation of G1. Therefore that's what I vote for.

Edited by Draven, 09 February 2012 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:56 PM

G2

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"Classicsverse".


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[And "G2" is therefore your answer, for the same reason Draven gave. RG1 only gets *any* sort of a look in because the same guys are working on it - but since Furman also wrote G2, even that's not any sort of trump card. The Clubverse pretending Marvel UK doesn't exist, OTOH, is a COUNTER-trump card.]

#11 Bass X0

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:55 AM

I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.

If this topic were made after Regeneration One #100 has been released, we'll probably see a change in opinion.

To me, "definitive" doesn't mean 'first' but 'best'. Even though G2 came first, I doubt it will be able hold up against Regeneration One in quality.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 9 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.

If this topic were made after Regeneration One #100 has been released, we'll probably see a change in opinion.

To me, "definitive" doesn't mean 'first' but 'best'. Even though G2 came first, I doubt it will be able hold up against Regeneration One in quality.

Time will tell on this, of course, but this is largely my opinion, as well. I can't vote for Regeneration One yet, as I don't know if it will be any good (I have high hopes, of course). Classics was an enjoyable romp, but frankly there just isn't that much there for me to support it. (6 pages every two months just isn't very much, sorry) That pretty much leaves G2.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:28 AM

That Japanese comic thing they hired the Americans to do.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:02 AM

Beast Wars.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:17 AM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.


Yes, I was wanting Regeneration One to take place after G2 #12, between G1 #80 and G2 #1 or during G2 (same way the U.K. comics happened during the U.S. comics).

But I kept being told that G2 was bad, that nobody should care about it and that Regeneration One would be limited if it incorporated G2 because of all the pointless deaths.

All things I disagreed with. G2 is part of the Marvel continuity too and Furman could still write a good story while acknowledging G2. But it became an alternate timeline from the end of #80. Classicsverse already ignored G2. If the hype for Regeneration One is real and Furman can pull off the stories he has been talking about and hinting at, its going to be great.

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#17 D.M

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:40 AM

I'll vote after the end of Regeneration One. icon-op.gif

Edited by D.M, 10 February 2012 - 08:40 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:10 AM

The Rebirth.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.
But there ARE reasons. You may disagree with them, but the widespread destruction on Earth, the loss of several characters, and the whole now-acknowleged existence of the Cybertronian Empire are all game-changers that Simon Furman thought it best to turn back the clock on.

They're pretty significant reasons, you're desire to include them in the new story notwithstanding.

#20 Chris McFeely

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Feb 10 2012, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Feb 10 2012, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised people are now favoring G2 over Regeneration One after all the effort to get Regeneration One made.


Perhaps it would be different if RG1 wasn't going to stupidly ignore the last twelve issues of the Marvel canon for no real reason.
But there ARE reasons. You may disagree with them, but the widespread destruction on Earth, the loss of several characters, and the whole now-acknowleged existence of the Cybertronian Empire are all game-changers that Simon Furman thought it best to turn back the clock on.

They're pretty significant reasons, you're desire to include them in the new story notwithstanding.


Well gee, maybe he could have tried to TELL a story with a significantly changed game by USING those new elements, instead of wiping them out! I mean, are you seriously telling me that the idea of the Autobots and Decepticons at peace, working with humanity to rebuild, with the thread of a... third faction... hanging over their heads...

...jive. I'm describing Energon, aren't I? Withdrawn.

Edited by Chris McFeely, 10 February 2012 - 11:42 AM.