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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:39 PM

So I was at TRU earlier this week and the Prime toys on hand so far were Bot Shots and Cyberverse Legion. The wife vetoed Legions for me (something about just spending $100 dollars on FP Runamuck and Runabout... Sheesh icon-arcee.gif ) but I grabbed two of the Bot Shots (Baricade and Sentinel) for my nephew who turned 9 today. They were pretty neat little gadgets, and though he seemed slightly unsure what they were at first I think he liked them once I explained the game and we tried smashing them together a few times.

However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

So I was just wondering how they've been working out for anyone else whose grabbed some? Are all the spring gimicks this iffy or do they mostly work fine?


-ZacWilliam, even with the twitchy gimick I kinda like the little guys. Fighting the urge to get into buying them. They're so small and collectible they make my Pavlov-sense tingle. So many TFs to collect already. Well, maybe just Jet/Skyfire when and if he comes out...

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:32 PM

They're kind of like Bakugan mixed with Transformers right? I kind of want to check them out but $5 seems a little excessive for such a small thing (granted I know that's the Bakugan price).
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:36 PM

On mine, Prime and Starscream are on hair triggers, while Bumblebee and Barricade require a pretty strong impact to transform. I suppose it's a good strategy to know about when you play, since you automatically lose if your 'bot doesn't transform.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:03 AM

Yeah getting them to transform sometimes can be iffy, other times you look slightly in their direction and they go off.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:37 PM

My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:54 AM

My Sentinel just doesn't want to pop at all. His feet just don't work worth a damn. Pity, he's such a cute little bugger.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:09 AM

My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

Too bad about the high failure rate.

I'm passing on these.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 02:44 PM

Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE(D Buster Prime @ Feb 9 2012, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Barricade locks together perfectly, but requires a good hit to open. Optimus, OTOH doesn't want to stay a truck, as his bumper is on a hair trigger.

Man, these guys are tiny crack. I just bought two last night, but want more. Too cute!


i have the opposite problem. Barricade works great, and only requires the slightest graze on the bumper to pop open. Optimus, though, requires good force to pop open, and when he does, he never stands up correctly - he always falls backwards.

even still, these are too cute and are a lot of fun to have on your desk. tiny crack, indeed!

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 12 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are all these figures out in other states or something? I've never even seen one.


They're only at TRU yet here in Ct. Though I've seen reports of folks finding them at Target.


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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 8 2012, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Prime and BB are perfect

But Starscream feet dont wanna go back to jet mode sometimes but works well when TFing to robot mode


The exact same goes for my OP and Starscream. It sometimes takes a bit of doing to lock the feet in for mine. I don't own a Bot Shots BB yet, but something tells me I will soon. These guys are cute. Hoping for a Thundercracker eventually.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

The only one I've had experience with was a Barricade. And I had zero problems with transformation. Either way.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

I just bought a Sentinel and, once I learned to not touch the bumper trigger, he works fine.



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

The only issue I've had with any of them is Prime tends to like to fall on his back after popping into robot mode.


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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

I picked up two over the weekend (Sentinel and Barricade). Haven't really checked them out yet, but I noticed that Barricade's packaging bubble was coming right off the card - even though I got it straight from the case (they weren't on the pegs yet, a Target employee helped me). This reminds me of (I think it was) RotF Scouts.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

Hmm, so they kinda are defective? And my Runamuck and Runabout works fine every time even after 26 years... [Insert Beavis and Butt-Head joke about imitations being lame here]

I might consider picking up some just to kitbash - but knowing they'll cost about 15$ in stores in Europe, I will probably grab them from the flea market rather.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

I have to say I've encountered far more malfunctioning Battlechargers than I have ones that work perfectly.
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:22 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 7 2012, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, neatness aside the actual autotransform gimick was a little iffy. Baricade was hair trigger and took several tries each time to get him to stay in vehicle form and even then was likely to pop open by himself as easily as by smacking into an enemy. Sentinel Prime on the other hand stays together decently and his arms And head work fine but the legs don't want to autotransfom at all. The arms and back still work right so my Nephew didn't seem to mind, but the legs you had to do yourself.

I have Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime. My experience with Sentinel Prime is more or less the same as yours. Generally, I just need to not be shy about ramming the toys into each other, has been my feeling about it. A partial or soft hit tends to yield an incomplete transformation.

I also find the "hair trigger" thing to be true, but it really doesn't bother me much.

That said, I find these things incredibly addictive. I enjoy ramming the Primes into each other and watching them transform over and over again. I hope that these do well for Hasbro.


(Unrelated note: If you click on the link for Optimus above, you'll note that I think they got their "this beats that" scenario exactly reversed. Anyone else have this impression?)

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:29 AM

The effectiveness of the trigger can be adjusted with the screws on the robot's chest. Loosen them for a touchier trigger, tighten for a harder trigger. I've got my prime and starscream working like champs now.
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