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@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.


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Phil's review of TFC Dr. Crank


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Posted 06 February 2012 - 08:58 AM


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Prelude: Legal stuff first, as always. Dr. Crank is not an official Transformers product from Hasbro or Takara-Tomy, he hails from third party provider TFC Toys. He?s clearly meant to be an updated version of G1 Hook, but for legal reasons he can?t be called by that name.

Robot Mode: Let?s start with the resemblance this figure has to the original Hook. It?s pretty good. They don?t look identical, mind you, but if you put them side by side, the resemblance is definitely there. They have the same basic design and share several elements such as the front of the vehicle mode becoming the lower legs and the crane being on the back. Dr. Crank is twice as tall and I?d say at least three times as massive, but it?s clearly meant to be the same guy.

Dr. Crank?s design clearly places him in the Classics era, which is more than fine by me. The figure is very nicely articulated, the only thing missing is a waist joint and twisting wrists. Otherwise, though, no complaints. Dr. Crank isn?t exactly a contortionist, but he poses just fine. The detailing is also very nice, I especially like the way the chest clearly has a place for a Decepticon emblem (have to check my Reprolabels sheets for a fitting one) and the stomach being a near-perfect match for the sticker the G1 figure had there.

Let?s talk accessories. Dr. Crank carries two handguns, which he can either hold in his fists (the standard fists-with-hole) or plug into his forearms. He can also put them onto his legs or on his back for storage. One is red and one is purple, both will become part of Hercules? combined weapon. Additionally Dr. Crank has the big crane on his back, which he can plug onto his shoulder, too. He can then either use the crane itself as a weapon (extending it gives him quite the reach) or use the two bigger guns on the crane?s sides. The two hand weapons can also plug into the sides of the crane. Finally, he has what I believe is a muzzle for the combined Hercules weapon, which serves no real purpose for Dr. Crank on his own. It can plug into the side of the crane, too.

What?s left to say about the robot mode? I like it a lot. It?s not a revelation as far as robots go, but it?s so far the best Classics-style Construction I?ve seen (him being my first TFC Hercules robot). The main draw of the figure is, of course, the combiner aspect, but even as a stand-alone figure he?s pretty good.

Alternate Mode: Seeing as the word ?crane? occurred numerous times in the review of the robot mode, it?s probably not a big surprise that Dr. Crank transforms into a ? you guessed it ? crane. Now I?m no expert in construction vehicles, so I can?t tell you what model or company this crane is, but it looks like you?d expect a crane to look and there are no obvious robot parts visible. The resemblance to G1 Hook is less pronounced than in robot mode, but still present (they?re both cranes, after all).

The crane can do all the same stuff here as in robot mode, of course. It can turn a full 360 degrees and extend quite a bit. On the side of the vehicle you can see grey flip-out pegs that are used for combining into Hercules, but can also be repurposed as stabilizers when the crane extends, such as real-world crane vehicles often use. And in case anyone wonders, yes, you can fully extend the crane without the vehicle toppling over. Both weapons and the muzzle mentioned in robot mode can be stored on the crane arm as well, so no loose parts in this mode. Bottom line: a good, solid vehicle mode.

Combiner Mode: Dr. Crank forms the head and shoulders of the Hercules combiner robot (not called Devastator for legal reasons only). There will be a separate review on Hercules once I have all the members.

Remarks: The original Constructicons hold the distinction of being the very first combining robots in Transformer history. Strangely, though, Hasbro has never really made an attempt to create an updated version of them, at least not one with the original?s look and feel. ROTF Devastator is an entirely different animal and while Energon Construction Maximus was much closer, he was still pretty far off. Now, though, TFC Toys brings us the closest thing to an updated G1 Devastator we?ll ever see (along with the one currently being made by MakeToys).

As for Dr. Crank / Hook himself, well, the G1 Constructions never had a clearly defined team leader. Most of the times it was Scrapper giving the orders (and he had the most lines in the cartoon), but Hook is the one forming the head (which is the leader?s job in every other combiner team ever made) and was named team leader in the Transformers Collectors Club ?Wings of Honor? comics. He also seemed to give the orders in the G1 cartoon episode ?The Secret of Omega Supreme?, so he does have some claim to the leadership position.

As a toy Dr. Crank is a good figure. The only real drawback it has is the price tag. Quite frankly, no one would pay between 80 and 100 dollars just for a Voyager-sized Classics-version of G1 Hook... if it weren?t for the fact that he combines with five more like him. So that?s the crux here: you buy him, then you buy the other five, too, otherwise it makes no sense. Which means dishing out between 400 and 600 dollars for six figures. It?s what made me hesitate a long, long time before finally succumbing. From what I?ve seen so far, I think it?s worth it (again, Dr. Crank being my first TFC figure, still waiting on the other five). But you need to decide whether you?re willing to dish out this much money. Money and combiner issues aside, Dr. Crank is just fine by himself. Not a revelation, but good. I?ll rate him again as part of Hercules when the giant is fully assembled.

Rating: B