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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 September 2017 - 05:06 PM)

Thats good.. I can't do those kinda of fixes... can't do anything really.

@  Telly : (25 September 2017 - 03:52 PM)

one of his legs was tight so i had to do the fix. hes all better now

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 September 2017 - 02:53 PM)

Why are you doing surgery to Tripty?

@  Telly : (25 September 2017 - 02:49 PM)

got my trypticon. currently doing surgery on him. so nertz to you paladin :p

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2017 - 01:56 PM)

It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer Vincent fritters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Sad to say, I'll likely be picking up The Last Knight this week. If nothing else, it should look fantastic on 4K Blu-Ray, and my 4K OLED is still new enough I'm willing to watch things I hate if they look stunning

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 01:34 AM)

Yeah, I picked it up last time when it got the 3-D conversion re-release treatment

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2017 - 12:57 AM)

To be honest I think I'd rather a copy of The Lion King over a copy of The Last Knight, and I already own a copy of the Lion King on bluray...

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 September 2017 - 12:36 AM)

I spent some time looking for a thread about The Lion King before I figured out the movie you actually meant

@  Noideaforaname : (24 September 2017 - 11:47 PM)

I kinda want to post in that "Win TLK on Blu-Ray" thread, but I don't want to actually win...

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2017 - 06:29 PM)

well TS to the toy gods. Website went back up, and I ordered it anyway. Wasn't even for me, it was for my brother...

@  Telly : (24 September 2017 - 05:50 PM)

its the toy gods telling you that you dont need whatever it was you were gonna order

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2017 - 02:49 PM)

Arrrg! Just as I was about to make my first purchase from BBTS in years: their website up and dies on me.

@  Msol : (24 September 2017 - 02:35 PM)

Picked up Slugslinger. Awesome figure except for some unfortunate mold degradation. His fists are so loose and held just by friction. Hopefully they don't start falling out randomly.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 September 2017 - 11:21 AM)

Probably in October/November as retailer flush out everything they can to make Christmas sales

@  Echowarrior : (24 September 2017 - 10:35 AM)

Will Thermidor and PRiD Twinferno ever hit US retail?

@  BlackMax : (23 September 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Found Infernocus at the local TrU today, he's still TFP Legion Abominus for sure, but metal as hug. Pretty cool for $5 more than a Voyager.

@  Shrug : (23 September 2017 - 07:52 AM)

Your PS3s traded souls.

@  2017 : (23 September 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Oh, odd coincidence, this afternoon my PS3 wasn't turning on. I seem to have fixed it tho.

@  Pennpenn : (23 September 2017 - 06:21 AM)

Oh great, my PS3 stopped reading discs. Brilliant.

@  BlackMax : (22 September 2017 - 08:38 PM)

Nope, that is a keen idea though. My team was Sentinel-Hulk-Haggar, Team Huge.

@  Bass X0 : (22 September 2017 - 02:17 PM)

Did anyone have a Prime team in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 consisting of Sentinel, Nova and Nemesis?

@  Robowang : (21 September 2017 - 10:06 PM)

Ok, I can't find the "Savage on a Ravage" pic that soneone pisted. Can anyone link me to it?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 12:47 PM)

I'm also sure you don't sparkle like a disco ball, otherwise someone woulda run you over by now.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

anyway I don't die in sunlight, I just get tired.

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM)

correct

@  wonko the sane? : (21 September 2017 - 11:46 AM)

I'm pretty sure most vampires would cause a gremlin infestation just for the giggles.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 September 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Hmm, a vampire would have a hell of a hard time getting rid of a Gremlin infestation, wouldn't he?

@  OrionPax44 : (21 September 2017 - 11:13 AM)

Well then there's yellowing but isn't that all of them. I like to leave all my TF's in a hot car all day long to let all their joints turn to jelly.

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 11:12 AM)

what about sunlight??

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:50 AM)

KAIJU NOT FOR SALE

@  Dracula : (21 September 2017 - 10:49 AM)

don't get any water on your trypticon, and don't feed him after midnight.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2017 - 10:42 AM)

I've had mine for two weeks with no problems. Just don't be a hamfist with it.

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 08:36 AM)

assuming they survive transport...

@  Telly : (21 September 2017 - 07:37 AM)

quiet you!

@  Paladin : (21 September 2017 - 06:46 AM)

and the hips should break by Wednesday/.

@  Telly : (20 September 2017 - 09:00 PM)

just ordered tr trypticon. should have it monday :)

@  OrionPax44 : (20 September 2017 - 04:57 PM)

@Robowang I have one somewhere and I can send it to you. Don't worry about it. Just let me find it

@  Bass X0 : (20 September 2017 - 04:43 PM)

Sometime last week, I purchased Hasbro Windblade online then a day or two later, Takara Windblade was announced for only £4.99 more making me instantly regret buying Hasbro's Windblade. Guess I'll be giving Hasbro Windblade to my nephew for Christmas then.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:24 PM)

That whole flat-rate shipping thing makes the math easy.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 02:23 PM)

4 bucks

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:15 PM)

Hmm. How much is shipping from BBTS?

@  NightViper : (20 September 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Set of the four is still $22 at BBTS

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 September 2017 - 02:00 PM)

Ramhorn is currently available from a third party seller via Amazon for $27.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Anybody have the TR PM OP trading card they don't want? I lost mine! Will pay you for it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 September 2017 - 11:35 AM)

If you don't need her I'll take her off ya.

@  BlackMax : (20 September 2017 - 10:04 AM)

When I get that power-batteryOptimus I swear I will carry it everywhere. It'll be like having a useful tool AND being six years old again all at once.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 09:58 AM)

I guess he's gone now. Oh well.

@  Robowang : (20 September 2017 - 09:56 AM)

I saw Ramhorn all over ebay for $16 a week ago or so.

@  Shrug : (20 September 2017 - 09:02 AM)

Just ordered Arcee.  I don't need her.  But she's pink.  And a robot.  A combination I love.


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#261 Monzo

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 03:39 AM

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Since there is no animosity I have no issue with debating this honestly.
Which is why I'm going to call your Wolverine reference a strawman.
Wolverine is a person. He looks the way he looks and changing that drastically just makes no sense. But TFs are known for changing their altmodes and changing appearance is kinda their schtick. Different altmodes for TFs are like different gear and uniforms for humans. And lord knows Wolverine has changed his uniform plenty over the years.


I disagree with your thesis that TFs are known for changing their alt modes. To the extent that we are talking. Remember you're talking along the lines of sleek motorcycle to tank or helicopter. I'd argue that that sort of change is actually pretty rare in Transformers. Far more common is say, becoming a different make of jet or a different model of car or truck. Where the general alt-mode family is kept and just the details are tweaked.

That, I would say, is equivalent of changing clothes. However, changing between a motorcycle and a submarine (to pic something at random) is not that usual or comon. That's the sort of change I see as counter to what I want to see when updating a character. Wolverine changes his uniform yes, but he's never changed into a six foot tall Andorian, cause that's the toy we have to work with repaintwise and he is a mutant they have secondary mutations and change (look at Beast).

Ok, yes that's a bit exagerative, but my point is that Human or Transformer there are some physical traits and parts of their nature that I think is important to maintaining the character. I'd actually argue this to be MORE important for someone like Afterburner who never got to get much characterization because being the "Technobot motorcycle" is actually a good portion of who he is for folks as a character. Lose that and you loose Afterburner IMO.


ZacWilliam, in the end of course it's personal taste and preference how much it matters to anyone. I'm not against alt mode changes ever absolutely in no circumstances can it ever work, but I know if I want a homage to an old guy, personally, capturing that old guys alt form at least passably is as important as the robot look.

I can see your point about drastic altmode changes but only for characters that, again, are defined by that altmode.
Well let me take your comments on Afterburner. You say he's defined by his altmode because he doesn't have much else. I say that makes him perfect for some reimagining seeing as all we really need to stick to with this guys is a group of smart dudes with techy bodies. We can give Afterburner just about any alt mode. I mean his name already makes no sense on a motorcycle so if he's lucky we can even help him out with that (and it occurs to me that all the Technobot limbs have flight mode style names but I digress). Characters with so little development open themselves up to far more change.
And I really wanna distance myself from comparing change in a TF to change in a human character as it really makes little to no sense.


Aside from Lightspeed, the Technobots traditionally didn't actually have anything to do with technology or even being smart (they're all 6 INTs, aside from Lightspeed at 8 and Scattershot at 7). The only place they've ever been science-y is IDW, which I assume happened because Furman doesn't tend to actually research the character quirks of who he writes. (I mean, I still love the guy, but he never once wrote Weirdwolf with his speech tic, and that's his entire character.) I just felt it prudent to bring that up.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 03:52 AM

Monzo - the face really resembles the Alt. face, but the helmet doesn't. In fact, the helmet doesn't resemble any prior form of Swindle. But I am fine with that. The whole block-head Swindle we know and love is all because his head was a combiner peg... it's time we moved past that.

Btw, if nothing else, Vortex as a Cybertronian helicopter will clarify even to the strongest doubters that Cybertron does have an atmosphere. (I wonder why some people were doubting it even after we have been introduced to Springer...)

I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.





I can't wait to see the alt modes of Vortex and Blast-Off.

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 3 2012, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That speculation aside, a small part of me wants to nitpick slightly about Swindle's head or Brawl being two barreled like Onslaught, tiny G1 fanboy things.... But, well, NO I WILL NOT DO THAT. Getting 5 G1 inspired deluxe Combaticons that form Bruticus is a HONEST TO HASBRO MIRACLE that I will do nothing but rejoice over. Holy Cow!

-ZacWilliam, wow. Can I say Wow again? Wow. Can't wait to see the others.


I think TWW (so, Don) started the whole two-barrelled Brawl thing. It was a merging of his turret gun and the dual sonic cannons the G1 character had on his alt. mode.



I am OK with this, because,well, I always found two-barrelled tanks awesome ever since I played C&C. icon-hotrod.gif
The only Combaticon I am iffy about is Onslaught - he used to be a long multi-wheeled thing with loooong dual barrells, now he is a compact truck with barely non-existent cannons. But I like his robot mode, so that evens it out.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 04:20 AM

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I could accept Swindle being a helicopter and Blast Off being a tank, at least their colors were somewhat accurate. Sure its not their usual alternate modes but I thought it would make for some interesting character stories about how they react and adapt to the change of alternate mode.


Really? I could not bring myself to buy even the Energon combiner duplicate limbs. I only owned one of each mold, until some guy offered me the remaining 2 Aerialbots for like, 2.5$ each, that's the only reason I own them.
Swindle as a helicopter and Blast Off as a tank just... don't work, not to mention the fact that they don't even resemble the characters in robot mode or colors!

I do own Blast Off, but it's because he is an excellent proxy for Classics Quake. icon-hotrod.gif



If this Bruticus is ever repainted, it'll be like the RID Ruination repaints - urban cameo, desert cameo, maybe a G2 repaint as a Toys'R Us/BBTS exclusive for the collectors. I can't see them doing an Autobot combiner from these guys. And frankly, neither would I be interested in it.

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YES!

...but he better have freakin' fists and not any of that claw hand Energon bulljive.


Ah, yes, need to add that one: This will have absolutely crap limbs, with no hands or feet, and fall over all the time.


Have you been asleep the past months? We have seen what FOC Bruticus looks like (see my post above). He has regular 5-fingered hands.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 06:18 AM

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All this talk about Hasbro remolding these or Botcon reusing these...have you guys forgotten the rules? I was under the impression molds of anything used in the game were under strict licensing agreements, meaning off limits for the club and probably not available for remolding unless planned and executed relatively quickly after the debut of the line (see Cliffjumper).

I'm pretty sure that was just for the movie games, and then only because those designs were kinda mixed up with Dreamworks. I don't think Hasbro will ever get into that situation again if they can help it.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 07:54 AM

Why do people keep assuming that because Bruticus has regular hands in the game that his toy will? I mean, I'm not saying that we should expect energon hands Mk II, but just don't be disappointed if the hands end up being less than ideal. I'm hoping against that, but we simply don't know what they're like yet and have only the most recent gestalts (Energon) to go on.

By the way, why exactly does Bruticus need five fingers? He's not the Decepticon typist.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 07:56 AM

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All this talk about Hasbro remolding these or Botcon reusing these...have you guys forgotten the rules? I was under the impression molds of anything used in the game were under strict licensing agreements, meaning off limits for the club and probably not available for remolding unless planned and executed relatively quickly after the debut of the line (see Cliffjumper).

I'm pretty sure that was just for the movie games, and then only because those designs were kinda mixed up with Dreamworks. I don't think Hasbro will ever get into that situation again if they can help it.



Of course with an outside studio involved in designing the characters, IP ownership isn't the only thing that can put an end to potential repaints. If there's a deal where the studio gets a cut of toy sales, that could prevent Fun Pub toys just as easily.

So while I have no doubts that Hasbro owns the designs here (which is probably why IDW can use them for non-WfC comics), having to send a portion of all sales to High Moon could easily make toys too expensive to produce for Fun Pub.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:38 AM

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Btw, if nothing else, Vortex as a Cybertronian helicopter will clarify even to the strongest doubters that Cybertron does have an atmosphere. (I wonder why some people were doubting it even after we have been introduced to Springer...)

I don't see why people would doubt that when it seems like there's always something burning in the trailers for these games.


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Streetstar - Black Cop Car or well any Deco that distinguishes him from Prowl


Blue/white NYPD Deco. Or Navy/Gold NY State Police. Or Green/White Las Vegas/Florida style.

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First Aid - White and Red Ambulance (since Prime Ratchet is white and orange), basically tryong to make him seem different enough from Ratchet being the biggest issue.


Prime Ratchet is white and red. The CV Ratchet I have is definately red. Dunno of any snazzy distinctive ambulance color schemes offhand, other than Airport Rescue green and the usual White/Red.

Ambulances I've seen in the CT & MA area have been white and red, white and blue, yellow and white, and red and black. So there are a number of colors that could work. I personally would like white and blue.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 09:32 AM

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Btw, if nothing else, Vortex as a Cybertronian helicopter will clarify even to the strongest doubters that Cybertron does have an atmosphere. (I wonder why some people were doubting it even after we have been introduced to Springer...
Or, you know, Obsidian who has verifiably flown on Cybertron.

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I always liked the deco of my local Police cars:



But it looks like Silver/bluestreak as a cop car...

I've always liked our State Police interceptor deco here in WV myself:



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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

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slavish to every original altmode just because is intensely boring and limits creativity.


For me it's a part of their physical make up. You might as well be saying "Wolverine being a short white guy with dark hair is intensely boring and limits creativity" and you'd be right in the sense that it sets definition to what he is and what he's not, but defining him is part of establishing a character.

But I'm not trying to argue you over to my way of thinking. If alt mode doesn't matter to you that's fine, just saying that, for me, it's important enough that I would have absolutely zero interest in seeing the Technobots done from forms so very different as the Combaticons.


-ZacWilliam, just does not work for me personally even as a concept.

Since there is no animosity I have no issue with debating this honestly.
Which is why I'm going to call your Wolverine reference a strawman.
Wolverine is a person. He looks the way he looks and changing that drastically just makes no sense. But TFs are known for changing their altmodes and changing appearance is kinda their schtick. Different altmodes for TFs are like different gear and uniforms for humans. And lord knows Wolverine has changed his uniform plenty over the years.


Kind of, sort of showing a variation is the recent Wolverine anime on G4. He's still white with the claws, but in this iteration he's taller and much leaner. The face isn't full of rage and he doesn't have all the hair. It's still Wolverine, but different. I admit I'm partial to the more common depiction as seen in Wolverine and the X-Men.

I still have a bit of hold-over from G1 regarding the alt mode being related to the character. However the movie concept of scanning pretty much any vehicle has made me more open to other alt modes for popular characters. Well, that and the glorious GI Joe crossover designs. icon-hotrod.gif

How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage?

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:11 AM

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I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.

Brawl sure has a pair of big ol' double guns...


Though those do show up on the leg, the ones there seem sorter than the ones on the toy.

Edited by Esser-Z, 04 February 2012 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

I wonder if G1 Bruticus' back got sore from having to bend over to fire his back guns all the time.

Or maybe they're anti-directly-overhead-air cannons.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

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I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.

Brawl sure has a pair of big ol' double guns...


In the FOC intro, Bruticus only has the shoulder spikes we already see on the toy. Those aren't guns on his back, but the spikes on his shoulders.

In that same intro, we see Brawl's cannons remain on Bruticus's knee.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

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I wonder if G1 Bruticus' back got sore from having to bend over to fire his back guns all the time.

Or maybe they're anti-directly-overhead-air cannons.

If they aim forward a bit, they could be ballistic artillery!

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I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.

Brawl sure has a pair of big ol' double guns...


In the FOC intro, Bruticus only has the shoulder spikes we already see on the toy. Those aren't guns on his back, but the spikes on his shoulders.

In that same intro, we see Brawl's cannons remain on Bruticus's knee.

I edited my post, heh, but you're right.

Edited by Esser-Z, 04 February 2012 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:19 AM

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I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.

Brawl sure has a pair of big ol' double guns...


In the FOC intro, Bruticus only has the shoulder spikes we already see on the toy. Those aren't guns on his back, but the spikes on his shoulders.

In that same intro, we see Brawl's cannons remain on Bruticus's knee.


So the concept art posted above is different than how he looks in the actual game? The concept art posted shows the backpack guns.
How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage?

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:30 AM

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I wonder where Bruticus' double backpack-guns will come from - in the FOC intro he has them, but WFC Onslaught only has small guns on his back.

Brawl sure has a pair of big ol' double guns...


In the FOC intro, Bruticus only has the shoulder spikes we already see on the toy. Those aren't guns on his back, but the spikes on his shoulders.

In that same intro, we see Brawl's cannons remain on Bruticus's knee.

When the camera pans out for Bruticus's frontal-shot he pretty clearly has a pair of cannons on his back, like in the concept art. They just seem to pop out of no-where

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:51 AM

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All this talk about Hasbro remolding these or Botcon reusing these...have you guys forgotten the rules? I was under the impression molds of anything used in the game were under strict licensing agreements, meaning off limits for the club and probably not available for remolding unless planned and executed relatively quickly after the debut of the line (see Cliffjumper).

I'm pretty sure that was just for the movie games, and then only because those designs were kinda mixed up with Dreamworks. I don't think Hasbro will ever get into that situation again if they can help it.



Of course with an outside studio involved in designing the characters, IP ownership isn't the only thing that can put an end to potential repaints. If there's a deal where the studio gets a cut of toy sales, that could prevent Fun Pub toys just as easily.

So while I have no doubts that Hasbro owns the designs here (which is probably why IDW can use them for non-WfC comics), having to send a portion of all sales to High Moon could easily make toys too expensive to produce for Fun Pub.

In a similar vein didn't Hasbro once say that about movie toys when asked in a Q/A? Something to the effect of, "Oh, we own everything TF related and we can do what we want but not exactly..."

As for alt-mode identity here's my worth-less-than-two-cents:

For me it seems there is a fine line between reimagining and simply renaming. We have Grimlock primarily as a tank or a two-legged-robo-dino. Now, he's also been a Mustang, but he still had a "Grimlock" head and it was explained in the fiction and thanks to that head it was easier to "accept" he was still Grimlock. Most any TF fan could look at the silver Alternators Mustang and see - oh, that's Grimlock. But if they came out with a toy that turned into an airplane, had goggles for eyes instead of a visor and a mouth instead of a faceplate and named him Grimlock we'd all howl "WHY?"

Now I do agree, many of the gestalt limbs on the whole don't have much personality or what they do have may not be tied directly to their altmode but I'd postulate that makes it more important to try and have some consistency with their earlier appearances simply because otherwise it's just another generic robot to which Hasbro tacked a name.

So for me, as awesome as this Bruticus should be - simply repainting him in different colors and calling him Computron would really feel like a cop-out.
 
 
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#279 OrionPax44

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 11:11 AM

Im so mad that I am just now seeing these pics. I now know where some of my money is going this year. Wasn't quite sure a couple of days ago. DAMN he looks nice

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#280 Noprobsrobs

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 12:52 PM

That Swindle head has got to go. I think I have a busted animated Swindle somewhere. I wonder if that'll fit.