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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:51 AM

Scroll about half way down.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:56 AM

Heh. Cool!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:57 AM

Pretty neat. Hopefully it won't be as difficult to acquire as the Starscream Skystirker.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:03 AM

Screw that HISS Tank! Those Jinx figures are AWESOME!!!


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:10 AM

Too vague to be really worth it in my eyes.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:12 AM

Yeah - unlike Starscream this seems sort of random. "Hey, everyone loved Starscream last year - who can we make this year?.... Uh... Shockwave?"
 
 
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

The gold "eye" at the front is a nice touch, though.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:17 AM

Diggin that Shockwave. Not much for vehicles in general though [lack of space], so my eye was drawn to the Ninja Battle set and the SDCC red Jinx. Although I'll be just as willing to pick up the Sigma Six-ish movie Jinx if they go and make her.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:17 AM

I'd rather see them use one of the designs from the DD crossovers. (Different HISS model, but one they still use, I think?)

I guess that'd be too bland though

And Shockwave does have that tenuous link to GIJOE thanks to that weird old product catalogue

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

This is sad. An official Hasbro sanctioned TF/Joe crossover toy and I'm bored with it.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:34 AM

Doesn't fit the character IMO. Starscream made sense; this doesn't.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:34 AM

I'm just impressed that these toys don't look like dull crap like the first movie's. I mean, there are other colors than black, gray, and white! Amazing!
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Shockwave does have that tenuous link to GIJOE thanks to that weird old product catalogue

Eh?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Shockwave does have that tenuous link to GIJOE thanks to that weird old product catalogue

Eh?


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Shockwave does have that tenuous link to GIJOE thanks to that weird old product catalogue

Eh?


http://tfwiki.net/w2...Starbrigade.jpg

Oh, duh. I should have remembered that.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cat @ Feb 3 2012, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Shockwave does have that tenuous link to GIJOE thanks to that weird old product catalogue

Eh?


http://tfwiki.net/w2...Starbrigade.jpg

Oh, duh. I should have remembered that.


Nah. Me even calling it a 'tenuous link' was tenuous!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:53 AM

I don't understand what the hell is happening here. I assume that was a mistake putting Shockwave on there.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:58 AM

All the armored Star Brigade silhouettes from the 1994 catalog are just blacked out Action Master card art pictures.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All the armored Star Brigade silhouettes from the 1994 catalog are just blacked out Action Master card art pictures.


I knew I put Star Brigade BAAT, Destro and Heavy Duty with my Actionmasters for a reason!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

They should have repainted Ninja Combat Cruiser as Brawn.

I dig Shockwave there but its not really him. That said, the H.I.S.S. Tank design doesn't resemble any Transformer's alternate mode, so if it had to be that particular mold to be repainted, Shockwave is as good a character as any other.

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