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@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.


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#1 TriBlurr

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:35 AM

Found this on tfw2005. No pics sadly.

Prime Revealers (Deluxe)


Ironhide http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Rumble http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Dead End http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Airrachnid http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Prime Powerizers (Voyager)

Dreadwing http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Bulkhead http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html


Generations Deluxes

FOC Optimus Prime http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

FOC Jazz http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

FOC Shockwave http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

I don't see any Generations listings, just the 3 Prime ones above.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

Edited my post for the generations and powerizer listings

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:47 AM

Huh. I was already thinking about trying an Ironhide custom from Ratchet. Guess I will wait and see what that one is.

Rumble and Dead End aren't in the show right? I've watched almost all of season 1 so far.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:51 AM

They're not in the show yet.

Ironhide's Cyberverse was revealed to us before but this is the first we've heard of the Deluxe. He's a pickup truck that takes cues from his WFC and Animated counterparts.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Feb 2 2012, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh. I was already thinking about trying an Ironhide custom from Ratchet. Guess I will wait and see what that one is.

Rumble and Dead End aren't in the show right? I've watched almost all of season 1 so far.



Considering Dreadwing is also in the listings. I'd wager these guys might be season 2 characters.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:56 AM

GENERATIONS - YAY! icon-hotrod.gif

FoC Optimus - Booooooo. Sure it was probably inevitably but yuck what a waste of a limited number of Gen spots. icon-waspy.gif

FoC Jazz - Knew we were getting it but MEH. RtS did him perfect. Can't see ever needing another Jazz. Could maybe be saved by a working winch grapple but probably a pass.

FoC Shockwave - Finally a winner. God I hope this is a cool toy. Shockwave is conspicuously missing from my Classics shelf. Would have prefered a Voyager, but I'll take a tall deluxe. Please look awesome.


-ZacWilliam hoping RiD Rumble is the unreleased mold with some accessory to bump up the price point... NEED PICS!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:17 AM

I doubt that Prime Rumble is the RtS figure with some extra accessories. I mean, now that is wishful thinking! icon-ball.gif

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:24 AM

Zac William, if after we see photos you post one response about how it not being RTS Rumble disappoints you, I am going to kill a kitten. Seriously, dude.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:26 AM

Dude, I like kittens. Please don't make him doo that.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 2 2012, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zac William, if after we see photos you post one response about how it not being RTS Rumble disappoints you, I am going to kill a kitten. Seriously, dude.



Oh, I know it wouldn't match the aesthetic of Prime at all and is extremely unlikely, needing a pretty big accessory pack-in to hit the right size class on top of the other problems. Call it a fleeting dream of seeing that mold at US retail. I'm not hanging any expectations on it happening.

-ZacWilliam, can I atleast hope for a toy that looks something close to the G1 guy and is of a size and relative aesthetic to fit in passably on my Classics shelf? I really don't expect to be collecting more than a handfull of Prime toys so filling in my G1 shelf just takes priority for me. Your mileage of course may vary.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

Seconded Cheets!

Seriously though, Shockwave better be awesomesauce, or else!!!!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:34 AM

Nice, let's hope that Shockwave is a pleasantly large-looking deluxe in robot mode. I did enjoy that design, so I'm not totally unhappy about this despite being a Classics whore.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:40 AM

I'd be tempted to put Shockwave with my Classics...but he's Prime Shockwave, not G1 Shockwave.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

Meh, Generations news isn't great. Prime is the inevitable waste of a slot (yet more Optimus, but this time with probably the worst Cybertronian Prime design in the history of the franchise), Jazz is I'm afraid just not terribly interesting, and I was really, really hoping they'd save Shockwave for a Voyager so he'd be the same size as Classics Megatron.

I do hope that Generations isn't entirely FOC for a while too?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:43 AM

Oooh, my interest is definitely piqued by these listings. I cannot wait for pics. I just hope the FOC Prime isn't a straight up repaint - that it at least has some new moulded parts or something.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:44 AM

Tsk tsk, Ironhide should be a Voyager. icon-hotrod.gif

Thinking about it, Airachnid really should be one as well, but I guess I feel that way more because her altmode is a helicopter.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Feb 2 2012, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be tempted to put Shockwave with my Classics...but he's Prime Shockwave, not G1 Shockwave.


Tell that to Energon Omega Supreme. Movie Bludgeon, Powerglide, and Guzzle. And the other guys from different lines filling out my CHUGUR shelf. If it looks reasonably like G1 Shockwave and doesn't clash strongly wi the Classic aesthetic that's all I need to make him an honorary CHUGUR.


-ZacWilliam, hoping we get at least two Dinobots and an Insecticon out of Generation this time. I really want all of both teams but that's probably a pipe dream....
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

SHOCKWAVE

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 2 2012, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SHOCKWAVE


Agree. FOC me, I need these toys.