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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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#1 TriBlurr

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:35 AM

Found this on tfw2005. No pics sadly.

Prime Revealers (Deluxe)


Ironhide http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Rumble http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Dead End http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Airrachnid http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Prime Powerizers (Voyager)

Dreadwing http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

Bulkhead http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html


Generations Deluxes

FOC Optimus Prime http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

FOC Jazz http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

FOC Shockwave http://www.toyzandga...-pre-order.html

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

I don't see any Generations listings, just the 3 Prime ones above.

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Edited by Powered Convoy, 02 February 2012 - 10:43 AM.



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:43 AM

Edited my post for the generations and powerizer listings

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:47 AM

Huh. I was already thinking about trying an Ironhide custom from Ratchet. Guess I will wait and see what that one is.

Rumble and Dead End aren't in the show right? I've watched almost all of season 1 so far.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:51 AM

They're not in the show yet.

Ironhide's Cyberverse was revealed to us before but this is the first we've heard of the Deluxe. He's a pickup truck that takes cues from his WFC and Animated counterparts.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Feb 2 2012, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh. I was already thinking about trying an Ironhide custom from Ratchet. Guess I will wait and see what that one is.

Rumble and Dead End aren't in the show right? I've watched almost all of season 1 so far.



Considering Dreadwing is also in the listings. I'd wager these guys might be season 2 characters.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:56 AM

GENERATIONS - YAY! icon-hotrod.gif

FoC Optimus - Booooooo. Sure it was probably inevitably but yuck what a waste of a limited number of Gen spots. icon-waspy.gif

FoC Jazz - Knew we were getting it but MEH. RtS did him perfect. Can't see ever needing another Jazz. Could maybe be saved by a working winch grapple but probably a pass.

FoC Shockwave - Finally a winner. God I hope this is a cool toy. Shockwave is conspicuously missing from my Classics shelf. Would have prefered a Voyager, but I'll take a tall deluxe. Please look awesome.


-ZacWilliam hoping RiD Rumble is the unreleased mold with some accessory to bump up the price point... NEED PICS!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:17 AM

I doubt that Prime Rumble is the RtS figure with some extra accessories. I mean, now that is wishful thinking! icon-ball.gif

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:24 AM

Zac William, if after we see photos you post one response about how it not being RTS Rumble disappoints you, I am going to kill a kitten. Seriously, dude.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:26 AM

Dude, I like kittens. Please don't make him doo that.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 2 2012, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zac William, if after we see photos you post one response about how it not being RTS Rumble disappoints you, I am going to kill a kitten. Seriously, dude.



Oh, I know it wouldn't match the aesthetic of Prime at all and is extremely unlikely, needing a pretty big accessory pack-in to hit the right size class on top of the other problems. Call it a fleeting dream of seeing that mold at US retail. I'm not hanging any expectations on it happening.

-ZacWilliam, can I atleast hope for a toy that looks something close to the G1 guy and is of a size and relative aesthetic to fit in passably on my Classics shelf? I really don't expect to be collecting more than a handfull of Prime toys so filling in my G1 shelf just takes priority for me. Your mileage of course may vary.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

Seconded Cheets!

Seriously though, Shockwave better be awesomesauce, or else!!!!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:34 AM

Nice, let's hope that Shockwave is a pleasantly large-looking deluxe in robot mode. I did enjoy that design, so I'm not totally unhappy about this despite being a Classics whore.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:40 AM

I'd be tempted to put Shockwave with my Classics...but he's Prime Shockwave, not G1 Shockwave.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

Meh, Generations news isn't great. Prime is the inevitable waste of a slot (yet more Optimus, but this time with probably the worst Cybertronian Prime design in the history of the franchise), Jazz is I'm afraid just not terribly interesting, and I was really, really hoping they'd save Shockwave for a Voyager so he'd be the same size as Classics Megatron.

I do hope that Generations isn't entirely FOC for a while too?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:43 AM

Oooh, my interest is definitely piqued by these listings. I cannot wait for pics. I just hope the FOC Prime isn't a straight up repaint - that it at least has some new moulded parts or something.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:44 AM

Tsk tsk, Ironhide should be a Voyager. icon-hotrod.gif

Thinking about it, Airachnid really should be one as well, but I guess I feel that way more because her altmode is a helicopter.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Feb 2 2012, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be tempted to put Shockwave with my Classics...but he's Prime Shockwave, not G1 Shockwave.


Tell that to Energon Omega Supreme. Movie Bludgeon, Powerglide, and Guzzle. And the other guys from different lines filling out my CHUGUR shelf. If it looks reasonably like G1 Shockwave and doesn't clash strongly wi the Classic aesthetic that's all I need to make him an honorary CHUGUR.


-ZacWilliam, hoping we get at least two Dinobots and an Insecticon out of Generation this time. I really want all of both teams but that's probably a pipe dream....
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

SHOCKWAVE

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Feb 2 2012, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SHOCKWAVE


Agree. FOC me, I need these toys.