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@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 07:08 PM)

I've been trying for the last few hours to find an argument to counter this... and I can't do it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 03:32 PM)

The most dangerous thing you can do is get out of bed in the morning. Everything else that happens is a consequence of that one terrible, terrible decision.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Driving, by itself, is dangerous. Anything done to compromise the concentration of the pilot just makes things worse.

@  Benbot : (25 November 2019 - 12:46 PM)

Actually, I think you could make a reasonable argument for saying driving with glasses is dangerous. That is, more dangerous than driving with contacts or perfect vision. You have poor peripheral vision with glasses.


TSD-Alpha "Thunder Shadow Drone" Robot Kit


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

Forgetting something "Gentlemen":

It is finally time to reveal a "little" project that myself and Fakebuster83 have
been working on for almost half a year now. This robot kit was designed to
help give your Thunderwing, Sky-Shadow, etc figures their smaller "inner
robot" form.

This mini-figure can stay attached to the original figures in both aero-space
fighter mode and robot mode. Or may be deployed as a companion drone
aircraft or robot figure to help in the mission at hand.

These figures are currently being fine-tuned and should be available for
ordering at the end of this coming March. I will post final pricing and ordering
details when all the variables have been resolved. Estimated price will be
$25-30 (+ shipping) per complete kit with packaging and instructions.

Without further ado, I present the Thunder Shadow Drone: TSD-Alpha:

This is a collaborative project brought to you by:
Thinktank (Design) and Ariel Lemon (AKA: fakebuster83) (3D Technical)

NOTE: We are constantly working to improve the quality of our product.
The final design will likely vary slightly from the images presented.

Here are a series technical illustrations showing the kit's design and features:


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:51 AM

Dang, I wish I could see the pictures from the office, as this sounds awesome. Will check it when I get home.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:42 AM

Great work. I've been asking for a Transforming drone for Thunderwing for about 13 months now!

http://www.allspark....s...0&p=1701604

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:34 AM

Okay, I like this a lot. Well done thus far!
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:02 AM

Very cool that you guys are doing this, if the quality is excellent I'll probably be interested in all three colors. I'm guessing about Mini-Con size.

Will they be painted, or hopefully cast mostly in their respective plastic colors? Have you guys done anything else before?

Edited by Jeremy, 30 January 2012 - 10:06 AM.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:32 AM

I find it a little weird that these are meant to attach to the underside of the drone that's supposed to nod to the inner robots. Might feel a little less tacked-on if they replaced the drones instead of hanging off them.

That said, they do look pretty sweet.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:44 AM

Sure the combined mode just kinda hangs of the front of the original toy, but that's exactly how the original did it too.

Edited by Shattered, 30 January 2012 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:30 AM

How do they attach to the originals' robot modes?
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:29 PM

It's a bit weird that it hangs off the drone instead of replacing it somehow, but it's a nifty idea.

I continue to be cool with third party add-ons to official toys.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Jan 30 2012, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sure the combined mode just kinda hangs of the front of the original toy, but that's exactly how the original did it too.

I'm aware. But on the Generations figure the drone is meant to nod to that same inner robot and integrates much better than the original. Awkwardly tacking a second inner robot nod onto the first and handwaving with "it didn't look any better in G1" feels like a significant step backward.

I'm not complaining or taking anyone to task, just stating some personal preference. If the product looks good, I'll probably buy it regardless.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:46 PM

We appreciate the feedback, and I will try to answer questions as they come up.

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 30 2012, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very cool that you guys are doing this, if the quality is excellent I'll probably be interested in all three colors. I'm guessing about Mini-Con size.

Will they be painted, or hopefully cast mostly in their respective plastic colors? Have you guys done anything else before?

Yes they are the size of a robust minicon.

The first run will be produced in a tough neutral white plastic. Which can be painted or dyed as the
owner wishes. If you would your kits pre-painted. That can be arranged as well for a little extra
(I'm thinking about +$10 a kit) if you get three kits as you described I am sure a set rate can be
worked out. When the business aspect of this is completely solid I will post all options and costs thereof.

QUOTE(Spark @ Jan 30 2012, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do they attach to the originals' robot modes?


They stay attached as with jet-mode but the arms are swung out to the sides to give clearance
for the original robot's head. The legs can swing forward to give the assembly a gun mount
overhead if one chooses. We tried several options and the reality of it was that the original
mold just doesn't have enough realestate to get more complex. I will post some images of
how this all works after we get our final approval samples in.

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 30 2012, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a bit weird that it hangs off the drone instead of replacing it somehow, but it's a nifty idea.

I continue to be cool with third party add-ons to official toys.


I wish we could have gotten more elaborate on the merge system but...
As above, there just isn't enough room on that deluxe sized figure. Now if the design had been
a Voyager...

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE(Thinktank @ Jan 30 2012, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 30 2012, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a bit weird that it hangs off the drone instead of replacing it somehow, but it's a nifty idea.

I continue to be cool with third party add-ons to official toys.


I wish we could have gotten more elaborate on the merge system but...
As above, there just isn't enough room on that deluxe sized figure. Now if the design had been
a Voyager...


..I can't help but think there's a way to make it happen. There's nothing wrong with the new addon protruding forward and under the nose, but there should be a way to substitute it for the current drone, so it looks more integrated with the alt-mode, rather than an entirely seperate figure hanging on under it for dear life.

Should mostly be a matter of molding the top/rear of the new addon similar in shape to the official drone, and with the sockets for the figure's clip, and allowing for some room on the lower-rear for the landing gear to fold up into. Other than that, it can be as long past the nose as you want, and as deep as the landing gear will allow for, optimally. Or the new drone could replace the nosewheel, a la DOTM Skyhammer's weapon, but I don't think you'd need to go that far.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 30 2012, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Thinktank @ Jan 30 2012, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 30 2012, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a bit weird that it hangs off the drone instead of replacing it somehow, but it's a nifty idea.

I continue to be cool with third party add-ons to official toys.


I wish we could have gotten more elaborate on the merge system but...
As above, there just isn't enough room on that deluxe sized figure. Now if the design had been
a Voyager...


..I can't help but think there's a way to make it happen. There's nothing wrong with the new addon protruding forward and under the nose, but there should be a way to substitute it for the current drone, so it looks more integrated with the alt-mode, rather than an entirely seperate figure hanging on under it for dear life.

Should mostly be a matter of molding the top/rear of the new addon similar in shape to the official drone, and with the sockets for the figure's clip, and allowing for some room on the lower-rear for the landing gear to fold up into. Other than that, it can be as long past the nose as you want, and as deep as the landing gear will allow for, optimally. Or the new drone could replace the nosewheel, a la DOTM Skyhammer's weapon, but I don't think you'd need to go that far.


This was actually attempted and it didn't work without losing it's ability to transform or requiring permanent
alteration/damage to the base figure. Both were deemed unacceptable for our concept goals.

Part of this also was that we were cramming a basic/scout level articulated figure down into a mini-con sized
package. I assure you we literally did the best we could with what we had.

Edited by Thinktank, 31 January 2012 - 06:37 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:56 PM

this is way cool. how secure is the connection point?

that is all.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:04 PM

If you can add a hande onto these guys, maybe they could be used as Targetmasters when the shell is in robot mode? Put two 5mm holes on the side, so they can became the center of a mega-rifle mode by mounting the missile launchers on the sides of the inner robot.

Edited by mignash, 30 January 2012 - 06:05 PM.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 30 2012, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you can add a hande onto these guys, maybe they could be used as Targetmasters when the shell is in robot mode? Put two 5mm holes on the side, so they can became the center of a mega-rifle mode by mounting the missile launchers on the sides of the inner robot.


Why would you want to? They're Pretenders, not Targetmasters. When Thunderwing is in robot mode, I want his inner-self to be in robot mode as well. Not hanging around as a gun.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 30 2012, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..I can't help but think there's a way to make it happen.

Fakebuster has been at this for a while and has been pulling off CAD engineering I would not have thought particularly possible, and as such I have no doubt that what we're getting is the best option.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE(mattski @ Jan 30 2012, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is way cool. how secure is the connection point?

that is all.


It is durable enough to easily zoom them around your room while connected.
Err not that any of us do that sort of thing... [>.>] [<.<]

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 30 2012, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you can add a hande onto these guys, maybe they could be used as Targetmasters when the shell is in robot mode? Put two 5mm holes on the side, so they can became the center of a mega-rifle mode by mounting the missile launchers on the sides of the inner robot.


Please consider he is only mini-con sized. His fist can hold 3mm handled weapons though.
With extra parts he could become more of a multi-role robot but that is not the plans at
this stage. But in "The Future"....

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

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The first run will be produced in a tough neutral white plastic. Which can be painted or dyed as the
owner wishes. If you would your kits pre-painted. That can be arranged as well for a little extra
(I'm thinking about +$10 a kit) if you get three kits as you described I am sure a set rate can be
worked out. When the business aspect of this is completely solid I will post all options and costs thereof.


Hmm, I'm probably not interested if it's not going to be a professional-grade, finished product like what third party groups like Fan's Project are doing. It's a neat concept, but maybe not for me so much.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Jan 30 2012, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 30 2012, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you can add a hande onto these guys, maybe they could be used as Targetmasters when the shell is in robot mode? Put two 5mm holes on the side, so they can became the center of a mega-rifle mode by mounting the missile launchers on the sides of the inner robot.


Why would you want to? They're Pretenders, not Targetmasters. When Thunderwing is in robot mode, I want his inner-self to be in robot mode as well. Not hanging around as a gun.


Just suggesting more features he could have with little extra work. You can't get him inside the shell in robot mode so why not invent something new?

Btw - How about giving him a mini-con port?

Edited by mignash, 30 January 2012 - 06:57 PM.