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@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 06:12 PM)

James Cameron doesn't have the resources to go deep enough to find THAT bar...

@  Foffy : (23 February 2018 - 05:38 PM)

it is a bar so low that it's deep underground

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:43 PM)

Not a high bar.

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:42 PM)

still a better quote than anything Trump has ever said.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:35 PM)

Thanks, Obama!

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:26 PM)

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

@  2018 : (23 February 2018 - 08:24 AM)

If anyone has an issue they'll revert your changes and tell you why on the wiki. If you're really bothered there's a thread on this board to ask in.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 09:35 PM)

@2018 I'll do so ASAP then if no one minds. :)

@  2018 : (22 February 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Go change it then!

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:22 PM)

Also I just found a Error not listed on the Wiki for "Plus One" episode of Prime. The locomotive in said episode starts with slow puffing sounds like a steam locomotive but it is clearly a Diesel-Electric.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:14 PM)

I said it wasn't recomended didn't I?

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:54 PM)

There's still the background radiation. If all you had was a sealed helmet and an air tank, how long would you want to hang out being dosed by that?

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:52 PM)

Far more likely for us to boil. Since no air pressure means rapid case of The Bends. If we were aclumated slow enough we could possibly keep going with a Oxygen tank and sealed helmet. But it's not recomended.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:49 AM)

Or a human would freeze to death if dumped out into the vacuum of outer space.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:46 AM)

Or the left hemisphere of the brain is exclusively responsible for logic while the right is responsible for creativity.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:45 AM)

@Pennpenn Haha, like human blood is blue without oxygen?

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 February 2018 - 10:30 AM)

That's a pretty crappy gift.

@  Robowang : (22 February 2018 - 09:45 AM)

The magic butthole fairy brought me a turd

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2018 - 07:28 AM)

Ah, the only "science fact" I dislike more than "humans only use 10% of the brain".

@  Foffy : (22 February 2018 - 01:39 AM)

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 10:22 PM)

Nothing wrong a good B movie now and then. What's bothering me is that the search on seems to work based on titles.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Not quite as bad as FilmRise's lineup, though

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Crackle is full of a lot of low budget B movies, too

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 09:47 PM)

urg. Sounds as bad as broadcast TV.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 08:24 PM)

Completely free. Has commercials inserted in awkward moments. IIRC they tend to slot some in right before the credits. So, show ends. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers. Credits. Buffers. Intro to next show. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 07:50 PM)

crackle is actually free too? I was oddly leary of that one for some reason, but couldn't find any proof it was pay.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:38 PM)

They ARE an official content licensor, not "one of those other free sites"

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:37 PM)

One of several free VOD sites/apps that are ad supported. I think Tubi is Paramount. Similar to Crackle, which is owned by Sony

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2018 - 06:51 PM)

what is Tubi tv?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 06:01 PM)

And there's an android app! Sweet!

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 05:57 PM)

oohhh, thanks for the heads up. Seems like lots of decent stuff on there too. Bookmarked.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 05:07 PM)

So, I guess Tubi TV got some deal with Hasbro. They got the entire Transformers saga through Animated...minus Beast Wars for some reason.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2018 - 05:06 PM)

To be fair, if the TF Wiki split a new character page every time a story diverged from previous material, it would spiral ludicrously out of control.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 05:01 PM)

It's not a 1 to 1 situation, but it's the closest I can really come up with on the spot. Transformers is kind of different that way.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:59 PM)

No, but they do put the (trigger warning) pre-Mephisto Spider-Man in with the current Spider-Man. Not to mention Miles Morales's whole deal.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:49 PM)

I mostly meant how Marvel wiki doesn't put say, '80s cartoon Spider-Man as a sub-page of 616 Spider-Man.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 04:48 PM)

I guess I don't talk to enough Marvel fans.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:47 PM)

Those are still events pertaining to a specific Superman. Not really comparable to how all the G1 Scorponoks are on the same page despite having very different traits and origins, with no retcons attempting to reconcile them.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Well, that's kind of what happens with DC comics characters, too. Stories that happened to Pre-Flashpoint Superman, like Doomsday, are still treated like they happened to the current Superman, even if that causes continuity problems, for example.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 04:42 PM)

If Marvel characters were treated like TF, then a bunch of cartoon and video game versions would be lumped with their main universe counterparts because of similar designs.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 04:39 PM)

I'd say we treat TF like comic book fans treat Marvel/DC characters. Hasbro doesn't though.

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 February 2018 - 04:36 PM)

I think the closest comparison with how we treat TF characters, that I can think of, is DC comic characters. Sort of.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 02:47 PM)

There's been a few statements from Hasbro people suggesting that they don't make that kind of distinction between G1 and otherwise as far as characters go. Like whatever somebody said about Magnus Prime's identity.

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2018 - 02:45 PM)

The IDW comics are the old characters in a new continuity, even if sometimes they don't act the same as they used to. War For Cybertron could have been the G1 characters in a new continuity but Hasbro said no. Whereas the Devastation game is the G1 characters in a new continuity.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2018 - 11:10 AM)

I think it's worth keeping in mind that the TF fandom's definition of same character isn't really used elsewhere.

@  Boomhauer : (21 February 2018 - 11:09 AM)

For what it's worth, the character blurb bios in that one kid's book matched the ones in Aligned, but that could just be a matter of "Hasbro isn't going to let a expensive 600 page story bible go to waste so it keeps being referenced" instead of proof it's an Aligned story.

@  Gryllid : (21 February 2018 - 08:57 AM)

But like, if we say "G1 Soundwave", are the cartoon, comic, and toy bio really all the same character in a way that Aligned Soundwave isn't?

@  Gryllid : (21 February 2018 - 08:57 AM)

I'm not even sure how we'd tell the difference between "G1 characters in a new continuity" and "new characters who look like the G1 characters". Maybe it's sort of a philosophical thing.

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2018 - 04:54 AM)

If you ask Hasbro, Cyberverse is about the Transformers characters.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 February 2018 - 10:09 PM)

We don't really know yet. It could be an amalgamation of things.


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#1 Draven

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:04 PM

I didn't see a thread on this guy, so I thought I'd get one started. First up - the pics are a little dark. The brownish/bronze is more towards the bronze end of the spectrum than it appears in the pics. My bad.
Anyways.

Vehicle mode


Megatron's vehicle mode is that of a Cybertronian jet / spacecraft. I'm a little burned out on this sort of "Cybertronian vehicle" alt mode after the first 2 movies gave us such incredibly lacklustre Megatron figures, but at least this one tries to do something interesting. The head being visible as it is gives me the impression of a more utilitarian alt mode; designed for convenience and functionality. After all on Cybertron there would be no reason to hide such things.
Megatron's weapon fits on top of his alt mode. its gimmick still functions in this mode, but it rather useless. The blades won't do anything unless Megatron's opponent climbs on top of him and starts punching him.
Vehicle mode fits together very nicely; it's nice and solid. The silver/grey parts at the nose can move around, but everything else is locked into place by the legs.

Transformation is simple; fairly standard Voyager level complexity. No great surprises; basically the legs fold out from the jet's underside, the arms swing out, and the rest of the jet folds in 3 to make the upper body. The way the front armour on the jet becomes Megatron's torso armour is neat though. And this fairly cool transformation inevitably leads to...

Robot Mode

Megatron is a rather imposing and commanding looking robot character in robot mode. Every visible piece of silvery grey plastic is textured to give the impression of brushed metal. It would work better with a darker grey, or with more paint apps, but it does a good job in person of getting the idea across. The plastic is hard and solid.

Megatron's back kibble isn't anywhere near as bad as Voyager Prime's is; it folds up well and from the front it give the impression of "wings".

The face sculpt is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. If you're a fan of the whole TFP aesthetic, you'll probably like it a lot. Personally, I fall into that camp. If you aren't a fan of the TFP look it's probable that you'll either fall in love with the head or outright hate it.
Incidentally, that last shot shows the "brushed metal" texture on the shoulder & upper arm better.
Megatron doesn't have many paint apps but the ones he does have are effective enough; the transparent purple plastic definitely works in his case, and adds a nice leve of complexity to his appearance.

Megatron's posability is a mixed bag - limited neck movement, shoulders (balljoint), below-elbow swivel, hip (balljoint), thigh swivel. His wrists can rotate inwards, and his feet can rotate (they are not on balljoints though). He has no waist joint and, oddly enough, he has NO bicep swivel. The shoulder armour is not actually attached to the upper arms; it's on a separate pair of parts that allow extra movement for the upper arms. This extra movement does mitigate the loss of the bicep swivels to quite a degree, and it is possible to get some really nice poses out of him.



Megatron's accessories are a mixed bag. His hand held blade (held in the hand, & also pegged to the forearm) is a really nice accessory. One definitely wouldn't want to get in the way of an Angry Megatron brandishing that.
On the other hand, we have his cannon/blade/whatever that is. Pushing in the back end of the cannon will swing out 2 blade halves, and light up the clear plastic; as the piece with the light rotates it catches the clear plastic in Megatron's arm and looks pretty damn nice, to be honest. The light does not, unfortunately, light the cannon up. Pity. The blade is nice enough, but the problem is that the mechanism has no lock; let go of the cannon and it swings back again. The cannon does have some nice mechanical detailing on it, though, and as a cannon it looks VERY nice. it's just a shame that the battery cover is on the outer side of it, and VERY visible.

There is one VERY good thing about these new Voyager class light-up weapons, incidentally, that only occurred to me when I was fiddling with Megatron earlier - the electronics are NOT IN THE FIGURES. This is a BRILLIANT idea as it means that the figure's articulation and playability are in no way hampered by badly implemented gimmicks, as we've seen with other TF lines.

Conclusion
Voyager Megatron is a fairly show accurate representation of his on-screen counterpart with some nice touches, beautiful texturing, and minimal (yet effective) paint applications. I have to recommend him because although there are minor problems (weapon, bicep swivel), there's far more good to say about him than there is bad.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:14 PM

Nrr. I think I might pass on this guy after all. Just not impressing me as much as I'd hoped.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 25 2012, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nrr. I think I might pass on this guy after all. Just not impressing me as much as I'd hoped.

I'd have to agree. If I could find the FE version I'd rather have it.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:18 PM

Not sure yet, but he doesn't look bad. Any chance for some size comparison pics with the FE Prime figures?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

There's a side by side with fe prime here. http://www.tfw2005.c...-images-174198/

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:45 PM

You know, this mold (through pictorials) is starting to grow on me. I can live with this Megatron. I have come to actively enjoy his more realistic skull-face (as opposed to the more sharkish cartoon and Deluxe face)... why should Bludgeon get all the skully fun? His primary weapon blows his Autobot counterpart's out of the water, the secondary weapon makes some level of sense and is relatively inobtrusive, and overall the figure looks good. The light-up gimmick actually makes sense for Megatron this time around. I still wouldn't mind finding a Meg/OP 2-pack though. I still can't believe that the US just didn't get ANY of the FE toys beyond Wave 1.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:07 AM

well that's horrible.

Why would they add so much off model brown? not to mention making him completely the wrong colour


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:28 AM

He looks pretty nice. Not in love with the face sculpt (looks messy) and the doofy exposed head in vehicle mode, but he looks like a buy.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:52 AM

I'm actually liking this one more now, after seeing more of it. Initially I thought that gold plastic looked pretty weird, but I'm actually finding the interaction of the white, gold, and purple to be very striking. It seems like one of those color schemes where there's just enough of everything showing up to make it tie together and work. I was initially skeptical about the shoulder armor, but it doesn't seem to bother you, and I like that the weapons and gimmicks are separate and not obtrusive.

Still wouldn't mind getting a peek at the Takara version before buying.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:53 AM

so white?

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

Getting both this and the (Takara) deluxe on the same day, it's hard to say which I prefer. The deluxe has more paint apps, but probably more than the character should have. Megs in the show seems to be pretty uniformly grey, not dark and light and mid grey.

The canon is more accurate on the deluxe, he can swing his arms all the way around and he has a bicep swivel. The voyager has the extending sword (which you can do manually if you want to keep it deployed), the quite cool hand gauntlet, the more imposing shoulders, a below the arm swivel (which is good for those "come to me, my Decepticons" poses) and is bigger.

I am surprised by how similar their transformations are though. Normally the different sizes result in completely different transformation schemes, but these are almost identical, save for some oddities like his wings being on the other side of his legs.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE(chonosmoon @ Jan 29 2012, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so white?

More a light metallic grey.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:08 AM

The Bronze hands, feet, and knee-guards don't bother me too much.
I am not a fan of that clunky gun though.

A quick question Draven; how wide across is the barrel of his cannon?
That information would help me on a project I am working on for this figure.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:42 PM

The grey really should have been darker.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:44 PM

Man, I haven't seen such a non-attempt to hide a head in alt-mode since Energon Ironhide.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:30 AM

Check his animation model. It's not hidden there either. So this is correct.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:18 AM

QUOTE(Item42 @ Jan 31 2012, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The grey really should have been darker.

I knowwwwwi wish they woulda made use of that sexy darker metallicy grey plastic they use every oncce in awhile (dotm ultimate prime has bits of it used on him like his arms)would look a bajillion times more awesome than "dull gray"

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

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Check his animation model. It's not hidden there either. So this is correct.


Not only is it not hidden, the design actually goes out of its way to make sure that his eyes remain exposed. There's no other reason to have that hole in the top of the fuselage.

Personally, I find it to be somewhat of a creepy touch. The thought of Megatron glowering at you at all time, no matter what form he takes.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:02 PM

Why even transform? Just fly in robot mode. But would he be too creepy for kids?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:35 AM

while his ship mode isn't THAT aerodynamic, it's surely more aerodynamic (and stable, since all his joints would be locked in) than his robot mode.