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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#321 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Classics Sideswipe looks far more like a Lamborghini then say Defender looks like Springer.

At least to my eyes.

But it's not an actual car (Walky's point).

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

How does that factor in with something(s) like Springer that doesn't exist?

Both are still supposed to be "evocative" of something but without crossing the line enough to be sued.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does that factor in with something(s) like Springer that doesn't exist?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Springer exists... There have been a few different Springer toys by now, in fact.



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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Classics Sideswipe looks far more like a Lamborghini then say Defender looks like Springer.

At least to my eyes.


Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common. Now, Hercules, on the other hand...

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common.


I dunno, that's a lot of things to get past.

Especially with how Transformer aesthetics change from medium to medium, color, alt mode, and faces are pretty much the main things by which to identify character design.
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#326 MrBlud

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

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I'm not sure I understand the question. Springer exists... There have been a few different Springer toys by now, in fact.


Which Defender doesn't match all that closely.

I was just contrasting *that* to Sideswipe not being a stock Lamborghini.

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Now, Hercules, on the other hand...


Well yes, him and Giant are rather blatant.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 11 2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be a better comparison to third party product if Hasbro were selling actual cars that looked like Porsches or Lamborghinis.

I think this VERY BIG POINT needs to be repeated.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Apr 12 2012, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 11 2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be a better comparison to third party product if Hasbro were selling actual cars that looked like Porsches or Lamborghinis.

I think this VERY BIG POINT needs to be repeated.

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So you're saying Lamborghini don't licence their car likenesses for models, and any toy as much in the likeness of a Lamborghini as (say) Warbot resembles Springer's animation model doesn't infringe those rights?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Apr 11 2012, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common.


I dunno, that's a lot of things to get past.

Especially with how Transformer aesthetics change from medium to medium, color, alt mode, and faces are pretty much the main things by which to identify character design.

Yeah, but choice of alt mode is just an idea, not concrete enough to be protected by Copyright. And Transformers heads are so similar and derivative anyway, minor alterations are enough to distinguish them from one another. Like, if I put Defender's head on a totally random robot body, would you say, "That's Spinger's head!", assuming you had never heard of or seen Defender?

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#330 Might Gaine

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:50 PM

Car designs are different. They're protected by design patents, not Copyright. Things with utility like cars, TVs, washing machines, etc. do not get as much protection as things that are purely entertainment, like stories, characters, art, music, etc.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most third party TF products infringe Copyright, because they look like and are intended to be substitutes for Hasbro's Transformers characters. There's a reason companies don't go around making toys that look suspiciously like Mickey Mouse. Similarly, you can't just go around making toys that look suspiciously like Devastator, Ultra Magnus, etc.

What you can argue is that they're more of an "homage" than an outright use/theft of the character, but in my opinion, only a very small number of third party products fall into that category.

So, yes, they are by and large illegal.

Even the "homage" argument can fail, right? I mean, the people who made the Hercules combiner clearly intended for buyers to pretend that it is Devastator, and not just something that looks suspiciously alike.

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