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@  unitremover : (22 February 2017 - 09:36 PM)

I haven't been up there in a while but one of the Walmarts around here still has AOE deluxes out. Some of the CVSs do too.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2017 - 09:34 PM)

It's been the same thing in local stores for ages up here.

@  BlackMax : (22 February 2017 - 09:33 PM)

One near me is the same - I swear they have over forty Deluxes there, all from many months ago.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 07:43 PM)

my walmart finally filled those empty tr pegs. and of course its a mix of waves one and 2 (wave 1.5?)

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:11 PM)

Got Highbrow, Skullcrusher, Scourge, and Chromedome for $5 a piece

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:10 PM)

My Walmart had a Generations Rattrap hanging for the past 2 and a half years, and in trying to clearance it, inadvertently marked down the entire Generations Deluxe assortment.

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 February 2017 - 07:09 PM)

A shelf warmer's ultimate revenge: being around long enough that in trying to clearance it...the store marks down the entire SKU!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Eh, he would've gotten beaten up if the government sent just about anyone.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:56 AM)

Regardless, literally everything I've ever seen (and a lot on tfwiki) attributes Megatron's slide into violence to Whirl beating him up while in custody. Maybe not like flicking a switch but Megatron's line "You made me. You taught me words were weightless without force" kinda spells it out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I'm not sure if there even was a specific turning point, but he didn't seem kill happy yet when he was with Terminus, and that was after Whirl beating him up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 07:24 AM)

It was also before any sort of uprising or him actually doing much of anything.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:20 AM)

I mean, the whole thing didn't start as "the great war". It was an uprising that eventually morphed into a the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 07:17 AM)

Yeah, of course it's before the war, Whirl beating Megatron while he was in custody was the tipping point that made Megatron turn violent.

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:08 AM)

again

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:04 AM)

Forgot this wasn't a search bar

@  RC85747 : (22 February 2017 - 07:03 AM)

hascon

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 February 2017 - 05:12 AM)

But the thing with Whirl was before he started the war.

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2017 - 03:28 AM)

Like so many awful things in that universe, it's basically Whirl's fault.

@  Telly : (22 February 2017 - 12:51 AM)

for about 10 minutes. then he got all kill happy

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 February 2017 - 10:27 PM)

Wouldn't IDW Megatron kind of count since his main reason for instigating the Great War was to overthrow the Functionist social order?

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:05 PM)

(I haven't read IDW at all please don't sue me)

@  Black Hat : (21 February 2017 - 04:04 PM)

Tyrest? He was chief justice, even :p

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2017 - 03:24 PM)

I kinda want an Autobot to have the function of "Social Justice Warrior".

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:20 PM)

Even we have limits.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Good. But let's agree not to do one for Tecumseh.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Shitting Bull.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:54 AM)

or spending a lot of time taking a Squatto?

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 11:49 AM)

nice

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 February 2017 - 11:42 AM)

Just hope it's clean or you'll be meeting Pukeahontas.

@  Robowang : (21 February 2017 - 10:39 AM)

Snackajawea - REAL Native American food prepackaged for your snacking pleasure!

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:03 AM)

Oh wait, figured it out. Doi...

@  Pennpenn : (19 February 2017 - 04:02 AM)

I'm kinda disappointed how they messed up Legion Bisk's hands so that his front wheels can't roll.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 February 2017 - 12:45 AM)

One of the Walmarts near me has some pegs full of Wave 1 TR deluxes.

@  Paladin : (18 February 2017 - 09:39 PM)

https://twitter.com/autobase_aichi/status/833142409005391872 ....is that an MP DINOBOT teaser?!?!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 09:35 PM)

Yeah, never seen a Titans Return Hot Rod

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Or Hot Rod. D=

@  LBD "Nyt... : (18 February 2017 - 08:58 PM)

Wow, seriously? I don't think I've even seen him here. =(

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 07:50 PM)

Yeah Mindwipe shelfwarmed like crazy in Vancouver.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 February 2017 - 07:36 PM)

My Walmart still has a Rattrap floating around. My frustration is I've seen Hot Rod and Doublecross, but still haven't seen a Highbrow

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 07:02 PM)

I still haven't seen any Wave 3 Deluxes aside from the Triggerhappy I got off eBay.

@  Pennpenn : (18 February 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Fairly sure the Target near my work still has a CW Wheeljack hanging around the Wave 3 TR deluxes. Just wish we'd gotten Wave 2 deluxes...

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:53 PM)

CW deluxes from the later waves clogged the shelves real bad.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 February 2017 - 06:52 PM)

Correction: TR deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 06:47 PM)

Generations deluxes don't shelfwarm.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

Hm, interesting. Some of the pegs seem to have the correct names when they've been shelfwarming for a while. So like Mindwipe would be on a peg labelled MINDWIPE next to WOLFWIRE, etc.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2017 - 06:30 PM)

It would make less sense to track individual figures when they're ordered by the assortment anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 February 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Nope. walmart tends to scan the first UPC of the assortment, then use it for the entire assortment. Actually tracking data makes to much sense.

@  Msol : (18 February 2017 - 02:37 PM)

So hey I bought Triggerhappy from Walmart a few days ago and just notice the receipt said TRIGGERHAPPY on it. Not the assortment name or whatever. Are they using this info to better track character sales or something?

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2017 - 07:13 AM)

I think there was a premonition panel in the Devil's Due TF vs JOEs

@  Bass X0 : (18 February 2017 - 05:28 AM)

When an app asks me to give a review or a rating, I decline, but I always look at other people's reviews before I get an app.


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#221 Walky

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:28 AM

And it's not like Artist Alley has a long, storied history at FP's BotCon. FP only created an Artist Alley exhibitor package last year. Before that you had to pay full dealer price, which was prohibitively expensive for folks like me to bother with.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:08 AM

Slippery Slope?
What if I can't sell custom painted figures? Retail bought toys, opened and repainted and resold. The difference between this and the tons of opened figures on sale at other tables and booths is the paint.
Another table migh sell you a DotM Voyager Megs opened for $12 but I'll sell the exact same toy as the exact same character all painted up for $60. Where is the problem?
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:15 AM

I think you need to ask someone who knows the answer to whether customized toys are passable. I'm pretty sure none of us do.

EDIT: Which is kind of a failing of the dealer guidelines that started this thread. They're incredibly vague and unhelpful.

Edited by Code of Walky, 05 April 2012 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:16 AM

I'm just throwing around hypotheticals until an answer is put forth by FunPub.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:33 AM

Have you considered asking them directly?


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:49 AM

Really, guys, you act as if you've never asked hypothetical questions before. I've asked and I'm waiting as they don't have a real answer at the moment.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Apr 5 2012, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you considered asking them directly?


M S:

I suspect that if asked directly, and an answer were given, that answer would have to be "no, you can't".

The policy is basically "no unofficial anything". The vagueness is probably intentional. The intent is obviously to keep mass-produced TF-related 3P stuff out of the con. FP probably doesn't want the traditional fanstuff swept up in this, because they want their convention to be cool. A convention without Willis selling Dinobot posters or Cheets selling custom figures (I thought you weren't going, CP?) would be measurably less cool. Perhaps not 20%, but measurably.

Unfortunately, the policy probably has to cover that, too, so FP's only recourse is to delay answering any questions, or answer as vaguely as possible, until the convention gets here.

Once the con gets here, no problem. I'm almost willing to bet that if Willis took a ream of Dinobot posters with him, the People in Charge would manage to mysteriously miss his table until they were all sold. Willing to bet $200? Don't know, but I guess it depends on what the going rate is for a Dinobot poster.




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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE(Autobus Prime @ Apr 5 2012, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The policy is basically "no unofficial anything". The vagueness is probably intentional. The intent is obviously to keep mass-produced TF-related 3P stuff out of the con. FP probably doesn't want the traditional fanstuff swept up in this, because they want their convention to be cool. A convention without Willis selling Dinobot posters or Cheets selling custom figures (I thought you weren't going, CP?) would be measurably less cool. Perhaps not 20%, but measurably.

Unfortunately, the policy probably has to cover that, too, so FP's only recourse is to delay answering any questions, or answer as vaguely as possible, until the convention gets here.

Once the con gets here, no problem. I'm almost willing to bet that if Willis took a ream of Dinobot posters with him, the People in Charge would manage to mysteriously miss his table until they were all sold. Willing to bet $200? Don't know, but I guess it depends on what the going rate is for a Dinobot poster.


The BotCon Twitter said that artists that work for Hasbro licensees are permitted to sell stuff. I am one of those people. I've been told I'm fine.

Even so, if Puggleformers fall under "parody" and are thus safe, I would think a Obama-spoofing Dinobot poster would too. I'd probably be fine regardless.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 5 2012, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Autobus Prime @ Apr 5 2012, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The policy is basically "no unofficial anything". The vagueness is probably intentional. The intent is obviously to keep mass-produced TF-related 3P stuff out of the con. FP probably doesn't want the traditional fanstuff swept up in this, because they want their convention to be cool. A convention without Willis selling Dinobot posters or Cheets selling custom figures (I thought you weren't going, CP?) would be measurably less cool. Perhaps not 20%, but measurably.

Unfortunately, the policy probably has to cover that, too, so FP's only recourse is to delay answering any questions, or answer as vaguely as possible, until the convention gets here.

Once the con gets here, no problem. I'm almost willing to bet that if Willis took a ream of Dinobot posters with him, the People in Charge would manage to mysteriously miss his table until they were all sold. Willing to bet $200? Don't know, but I guess it depends on what the going rate is for a Dinobot poster.


The BotCon Twitter said that artists that work for Hasbro licensees are permitted to sell stuff. I am one of those people. I've been told I'm fine.

Even so, if Puggleformers fall under "parody" and are thus safe, I would think a Obama-spoofing Dinobot poster would too. I'd probably be fine regardless.


...does this mean no Warbot Defender artwork?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

This just popped up on Twitter:
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Due to fan outcry, Hasbro has changed their position on the Artist Alley and ban on fan art. Please retweet for great justice.


You'll pardon my skepticism until I hear about it from more than just Twitter.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

Supposedly this information was emailed to a TFW staff member within the last hour.

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More info - Link.

Shibura Prime posted saying this was from Fun Pub:
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We're pleased to announce, per Hasbro, that artist tables will be allowed at BotCon 2012 as we have allowed it in the past, and will be permissible as part of the show. Hasbro sympathizes and understands fans' discouragement with the previous statements concerning fan art, and while remaining steadfast in the right to protect its IP in regards to unlicensed merchandise, wants to ensure fans can continue to enjoy the BotCon experience which they know is made so great in large part by the fan community.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:59 PM


Wasn't expecting that at theis point, but Yay.

Good for them. icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:13 PM

That's pretty sweet.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:55 PM

....untill someone tries to sell "Transformable Warbot Defender Statuettes" as "Art".
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:04 PM

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....untill someone tries to sell "Transformable Warbot Defender Statuettes" as "Art".


Hasbro reps may see past that ruse.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 5 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dessl0ck @ Apr 5 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....untill someone tries to sell "Transformable Warbot Defender Statuettes" as "Art".


Hasbro reps may see past that ruse.


The heck you say!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 5 2012, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 5 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dessl0ck @ Apr 5 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....untill someone tries to sell "Transformable Warbot Defender Statuettes" as "Art".


Hasbro reps may see past that ruse.


The heck you say!

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Oh, I am sure they would and will. However I also have just enough faith in the average jackhole to think he is clever enough to skirt the rules and get away with it, claiming "but the rules say..."
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:13 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 5 2012, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's pretty sweet.


Yes it is! Nice to be wrong, sometimes. icon-hotrod.gif

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Apr 5 2012, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-ZacWilliam, no one involved wants to make the Con less fun for the fans, and it's nice to see that taken in to consideration in a "comon sense" sort of manner.


Or less profitable for the people renting tables, and no doubt that crossed a few minds, as well. icon-fire.gif




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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:13 AM

We are now only banning art some fans find objectionable, so, there will be no Walky art at BotCon...
















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