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@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 05:17 AM)

I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:38 AM)

Though with the luck and caliber of leaders we've had of late in the darkest timeline, maybe it's too much to hope for.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:36 AM)

Just like democracy, it's not perfect but better than the present alternatives. Capitalism as it's practiced today won't be able to weather the coming wave of automation, though. Best to plan for it and hope for a gentle transition rather than the aforementioned collapse

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Capitalism is the worst amiright? Sent from my iPhone

@  Vexwing : (15 July 2019 - 11:24 PM)

Because the collapse is gonna be just great.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 July 2019 - 10:41 PM)

Let's hope this is late stage and we're on the cusp of something better.

@  abates : (15 July 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Late stage capitalism is the absolute best.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 01:33 PM)

So, welcome to all retail, everywhere.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Oh, and Greenpeace also conducted a protest at a German Amazon facility, to protest against Amazon's practice of throwing customer returns in the trash.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

Right, because with Amazon, it's just the employees that have to step in dog shit while having no space to breathe.[/slightexaggeration]

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 July 2019 - 01:03 PM)

At least I can use Amazon without losing the ability to breath or step in dog shit.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:58 PM)

Considering that Amazon is the new Walmart...

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

All of my best wishes go out to the brave women and men who have the balls (and ovaries) to go on strike at an Amazon facility in the US.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Speaking of. Not only are we in Germany on strike today, but so is the fulfillment center in Shakopee, Minnesota!

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Overnight delivery is the right of all sentient beings.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:34 PM)

(and is it sexist of me to assume that a character named "Amazon Prime" would be feminine?)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:34 PM)

Whenever she was summoned, she would arrive the next day?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 July 2019 - 12:32 PM)

The Scioli and Barber TF vs Joe series mentioned an Amazon Prime.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Meanwhile I'm wondering why no one's come up with a fan character named "Amazon Prime". I mean, today IS her special day...

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 11:20 AM)

The Wallet-Eater.

@  unluckiness : (15 July 2019 - 08:44 AM)

Woah. Unicron broke the site.

@  MEDdMI : (14 July 2019 - 10:08 PM)

Is that what kids are calling it these days?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 07:33 PM)

Ssshh, you'll get us both "dealt with".

@  RichardT1977 : (14 July 2019 - 07:28 PM)

No, but I did *read* it from you...

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 03:06 PM)

The first real long-term space outposts belong to the Illuminati, but you didn't hear that from me.

@  RichardT1977 : (14 July 2019 - 02:50 PM)

Er, in SF I mean.

@  RichardT1977 : (14 July 2019 - 02:50 PM)

Yeah, the first long-term manned space outposts have traditionally been mining colonies and the like.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 12:19 PM)

Okay, but......do they have to be willing to be sent up?

@  Rycochet : (14 July 2019 - 11:10 AM)

A king isn't a king without subjects.

@  Rycochet : (14 July 2019 - 11:09 AM)

The rich will never flee to space until there's enough an underclass up there so they have someone to do all the jobs they won't. Same reason seasteading never takes off.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 10:45 AM)

Do we have to let them come back?

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 July 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Well, it's only going to be the ultra-rich who are able to go for the first couple decades at least, so I doubt anyone's going to care much

@  Nevermore : (14 July 2019 - 10:32 AM)

They could be standing on the surface of the moon, insist they're in the middle of a giant set, and take off their helmet to "prove" it.

@  Nevermore : (14 July 2019 - 10:31 AM)

Assuming these are genuinely convinced conspiracy morons and not just internet trolls, I would assume "not a lot".

@  Nevermore : (14 July 2019 - 10:31 AM)

I wonder how all these recent private and international space travel programs are going to affect those craziacs who insist that the Earth is flat/the moon landing was forged/outer space isn't real etc.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

Well... rory WOULD love a trebuchet...

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 09:29 AM)

Trebuchets never go out of style.


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#4921 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 12:53 AM



what kind of death game is this

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 10:33 AM

The kind with a fhána ED, I guess.

 

And an OP by the main character of Yu-Gi-Oh ZEXAL, home of the now infamous Tyler sisters (though that's English dub only).

 

The Ensemble Stars! anime that airs -literally- next cour, has announced that it's changed it's director from [someone who is definitely a person] to the KING of PRISM director. Hishikada Masakazu is great, beyond great even, but from what I saw in the PV it's clear he wasn't hired in time to save the CG sequences.

 

It turns out the original director is just Hishikada under a pseudonym, so there just was no 'saving' those sequences ever.

 

The Ensemble Stars! anime has had a lot of problems so far, including basically being cancelled and then re-announced with a new studio on board. It's funny considering how it's basically Happy Elements' signature franchise. Between it being announced and now, the Last Period and Merc Storia anime were announced and both finished airing quite a while ago.


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Posted 21 June 2019 - 06:56 AM

so there's a new dub of Neon Genesis Evangelion hitting Netflix today and Weeb Twitter is unsurprisingly flipping their shit over it.

 

haven't checked it out yet but apparently there's some uproar because Netflix couldn't or just didn't buy the rights to the ending theme music so songs are just cut out of certain spots.


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Posted 21 June 2019 - 08:32 AM

I think I'm going to just skip that anyway. I really didn't like the first run of it.


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Posted 21 June 2019 - 01:37 PM

I personally think its just overhyped, what I seen of the animation and stuff, it just says lame to me, so I'll likely not bother to watch it


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Posted 21 June 2019 - 03:29 PM

so there's a new dub of Neon Genesis Evangelion hitting Netflix today and Weeb Twitter is unsurprisingly flipping their shit over it.

 

haven't checked it out yet but apparently there's some uproar because Netflix couldn't or just didn't buy the rights to the ending theme music so songs are just cut out of certain spots.

It's not only that. The retranslation erased Kaworu's homosexuality and changed very iconic pieces of dialogue for no reason.

 

Also, Netflix not having the money to pay off Universal Music Japan for the rights to Fly Me To The Moon? Hah. Netflix Japan has FMTTM untouched.

 

There's also the issue of blatantly ignoring the original Dub cast. Netflix along with picking up Eva, also picked up the rights to the original dub.

 

They could have easily added the original dub as an alt audio for no money whatsoever.


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Posted 21 June 2019 - 07:33 PM

Well, from looking at the comparisons that have been floating around with the translations, it is not that they erased Kaworu's being gay, but they went with a more literal translation.  They problem comes in that one needs to know the cultural context that "like" in those situations is usually in the "I want to go out with you" context, instead of the less subtle "love" that the original used. 

And then it has a few translations that I have seen that are a bit more of a stretch, so yeah.

 

I do not have Netflix, so I have not seen the new dub yet (I will give it a shot), but my biggest concern is what will happen when Rebuild movie 4 comes out (I think the release date coincides with Half Life 3).  Funimation did a great job in getting most of the VAs back, and I really have enjoyed them more than the TV series (though I think it is best to see the TV first), and I am kinda worried that Netflix will just throw their money around and get the last movie and use the new TV cast, which would make watching the movies feel strange.

 

Then again, with all the money they have thrown around, they really could have ALSO had the original dub as well as licensing Fly Me To The Moon.  Maybe they will eventually have both in they ever have a BD release.  Which would also coincide with HL3.


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Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:21 AM

and I really have enjoyed them more than the TV series

 

Not to be argumentative but did we see the same version of Eva 3.33?

 

 

I am kinda worried that Netflix will just throw their money around and get the last movie and use the new TV cast

 

Judging from this, Netflix is not throwing their money at anything Eva.

 

They could have easily added the original dub as an alt audio for no money whatsoever.

Presumably that would have cost more and if they weren't even willing to pay for the ED I doubt they'd be all for paying royalties on that. I'm pretty sure that's why the new dub even exists in the first place.


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Posted 22 June 2019 - 04:23 PM

Especially since the original VAs were more than willing to come and redub it themselves. Yet Netflix apparently never even considered that.

The 'Fly Me to the Moon' thing baffles me. I mean, Netflix simply Not ponying up the money for the 'global rights' seems incredibly short sighted. Did the really not expect Eva fans to be more than a little peeved?

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 04:26 PM

"Nobody watches the end credits we auto-skip anyways. Why bother?"

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 06:01 PM

Yeah, i can believe that was their thinking.

Here's a kindof funny video about Eva that as the guy in it literally making an insane, all-encompassing multiverse out of every piece of Eva based fiction, game, novel and merchandising crossover there is.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=ueUeMFbGq9o

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:50 PM

The new opening theme is catchy though

 

 

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 06:13 AM

I'm 6 episodes into the redub and I don't really have a problem. I certainly never hated the ADV cast but the new voices work for me. Opinions might change once I get to Asuka since a comparison clip I saw suggests the new VA doesn't quite have the smug that Tiffany Grant provided, which feels like a loss given how much self worth Asuka is putting in her standing as an Eva pilot and that she sinks into utter depression when she loses that.

 

There are some terminology choices I don't like, such as the Third Child is now the Third Children but I've been an anime fan long enough to know licensors can be pretty draconian on preferred terminology and supposedly good dubs of the past decade took liberties. This is why I'm not joining with the 'They erased the gay!' mob. I've followed anime and manga long enough to know a lot of things come down to preference or need in translation. Compare Vertical's hammy dialogue in their release of Gundam The Origin to the more straight translation of the dialogue in Sunrise's official dub and sub of the animated version. The problem is we develop nostalgia for the version we first saw and it shapes our fandom as a result.

 

The best example for this I've seen is DBZ vs DB Kai. Lots of us grew up with the Saban/Funi dub of Z but it takes a lot of liberties with the original. The problem being when Kai came along and tried to be closer to the Japanese in spirit, people hated it because it wasn't the Z they grew up with here in the West. How dare Freeza not sound like a chain smoking lunchlady!



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Posted 23 June 2019 - 06:48 AM

I think the Children thing might be because the Japanese used the plural form even when referring to one of them, for whatever reason.

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 08:50 AM

I'm willing to bet the redub will likely not contain Shinji/Spikes original impromptu WTF comedy end credits rant. So i shall post it here.

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 04:39 PM

Just finished After Lost, the final ep was, kind of meh, the build up was intersting with the mystery but the end its self was kind of a so what, it not really happy or sad kind of ending, the core story boiled down to the fact that one of the two main characters is a child of two universes and they hold the power to acknowledge the existance of universes. The series villian, their motives are rather confusing, aside from something to do with another universe and wanting to create another lost!


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Posted 23 June 2019 - 05:55 PM

I think the Children thing might be because the Japanese used the plural form even when referring to one of them, for whatever reason.

Well, I wonder how hands on Gainax was with the redub and new translation, as it seems they were the reason why it took so long after the "original" dub of 3.33 for it to be released on BD.  It seems to be like how hands on Sunrise is with Gundam being brought over here.

 

It is also sometimes interesting to hear that "changes" that people complain about, like the "omni-directional maneuvering gear" in Attack on Titan instead of the then fan used "3D maneuvering gear", or the "name changes" in Wiseman's Grandchild from the fan translations, were actually dictated by the licensor.  Yeah, sometimes the fan terms may be more literal, but whoever is legally bringing them out has to abide by what the Japanese company they have contracted with says. 

 

It is also why we almost never hear the exact reasons for long delays, like 3.33, or if they are ever even bringing something (that has supposedly already been dubbed) like Hybrid X Heart out.

 

 

 

and I really have enjoyed them more than the TV series

 

Not to be argumentative but did we see the same version of Eva 3.33?

 

 

Aye, we did, and while End of Eva was a much better end to the original than the last two WTF episodes, I have enjoyed the Rebuild more than the original.  But again, I had watched the original and had the context of it while watching the movies.


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Posted 23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM

Studio Khara dictated the script changes. Tiffany Grant has been posting a lot about the bullshit on Facebook and while obviously not an impartial source, it's a real bad look for Carrie Keranen
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Posted 30 June 2019 - 05:51 PM

Welll just watched the conclusion to season 3 part 2 of Attack on Titan, its pretty good, thou personally I think the whole battle for Eren's home town went by to swiftly, thou I am rewatching season 3, while this season resolves a lot of myserties, it still leaves a intersting mystery regarding the titan shifters power.


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Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:08 AM

Well that was weird. I think I dreamnt an entire page of this thread that doesn't exist.

 

The topic somehow got on the subject of how anime titles can mislead or lie to you.

 

Think the posts were mostly just having fun. Like pointing out how Edward Elric isn't actually made of full metal.

 

The final post of the thread is what I remember most. I can't for the life of me recall who it was that said it, but it was and I quote:

 

"We were kinda promised Neverland. It's right there in the name"

 

 

Sorry, it was just too weird and I had to talk about it for a sec.

 

In anime news, I watched the first episode of Isekai Cheat Magician, which I found interesting enough to want to see the next episode.

 

I'm also on episode 5 of Wiseman's Grandchild, which I'm enjoying enough to continue, but it kinda feels like it didn't need to be an isekai anime.


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