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@  Shrug : (18 October 2017 - 08:48 AM)

I doubt we'd have a chance with Hillary either. Didn't she get like 100k from Comcast? Both parties are pretty dang corrupt. If only Bernie...

@  2017 : (17 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

It scared me!

@  Kalidor : (17 October 2017 - 05:42 PM)

Yes - here is more information - https://www.battleforthenet.com/

@  Darth Gonzo : (17 October 2017 - 05:36 PM)

Hello?

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM)

Yeah, it's the Allspark.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:35 PM)

Okay, so it is the allspark doing it, and not some piece of malware I need to run a system scan over, that's basically all I wanted to know.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:34 PM)

If, say, Hillary or Bernie was president, we'd have a chance, but with the current administration... We're pretty much hugged.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

I don't know why we're even bothering; there's no way in hell a GOP-controlled congress would listen to common proles like us.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:32 PM)

Yeah, so did I.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Okay, so I just got a pop up telling me I need to call congress about the FCC killing net neutrality. Anyone else get that?

@  Dracula : (17 October 2017 - 09:45 AM)

I'd probably use a primer coat on either of them.

@  unluckiness : (17 October 2017 - 07:21 AM)

Wonder if Overboard or Crashbash would be easier to paint over. Generally dark colors are harder but then again, screaming fuschia seems like it'd be difficult to cover too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Damn, the shoutbox won't accept those characters. I mean "open-mid back unrounded vowel" on Wikipedia.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Λ

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2017 - 02:45 PM)

@Bass X0 Ha, I think some Asian accents of English, that mispronunciation would be considered standard, as those accents lack [ʌ].

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2017 - 12:08 PM)

She's the last thing you hear before your doom.

@  Noideaforaname : (15 October 2017 - 07:34 PM)

The cat can talk?!

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2017 - 06:30 PM)

TMM's first cat was Cookie b/c that's the first word he said when he saw her

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:34 PM)

Reminds me of when my nephew was one year old and my sister got him a puppy. He couldn't say puppy properly and it sounded like poppy, so Poppy is what they called her.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 02:36 PM)

Yeah. I thought it had some interesting informational articles too.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 01:59 PM)

does anyone else miss the ToyFare magazine? I just read it for the pictures and jokes rather than using it as a serious guide for buying and selling toys.

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Uncle Bobby Peach, baby! Uncle Bobby Peach!

@  Arazyr : (15 October 2017 - 09:21 AM)

Last night, playing Mario Kart with my daughter, I misread Baby Peach as "Bobby Peach".

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 09:03 AM)

Yeah, I might've forgotten that the Beast is pretty much just a mindless killing machine. That's pretty much what I get for going off of the TFWiki summaries without having actually read any of it.

@  tffan01 : (15 October 2017 - 08:34 AM)

@Onyxstrike Well, to be fair, the quality of the story aside, Beast Within illustrates the fact that Dinobots are feral in nature, with what would happen if they actually lost control. That's a character flaw in a way, correct? 

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:21 AM)

Send me a PM if you need help getting to the true ending, also.

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:15 AM)

Thinking about quirky robots occupies 30% of my brain's daily processing power. I can't remember birthdays and I never know where my phone is, but it's totally worth it.

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 08:03 AM)

Yay, I look forward to your dealings with quirky robots!

@  Strafe : (15 October 2017 - 08:01 AM)

Definitely, I started setting aside funds a month ago for the inevitable Black Friday digital sales in the Playstation and Xbox stores. Going to be ready this year, and that's one of the many games on my list!

@  2017 : (15 October 2017 - 07:30 AM)

Hey Strafe will you ever play Nier: Automata?

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

Plus, The Beast Within is overall not a very good story.

@  Onyxstrike : (15 October 2017 - 07:19 AM)

The problem is is that Victory's dreams are meant to prey on the Dinobot's character flaws. For instance, Grimlock downing every Decepticon in his path, but falling for Starscream's begging for mercy schtick, preys on his arrogence. What character flaws does The Beast Within prey on? Nothing. The entire premise of the book was to please the many fans who posed the many hypothetical "What if the Dinobots combined?" scenarios way back when, with a gratuitous death count to boot.

@  Bass X0 : (15 October 2017 - 05:51 AM)

What's wrong with wanting it to be a canon dream sequence?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 01:14 PM)

go home bass you are drunk

@  Bass X0 : (14 October 2017 - 12:15 PM)

My fanon is that The Beast Within is a follow up the Marvel UK annual story Victory. In Victory, the Dinobots are trapped within a dream world, unable to wake up - each one having dreams, ending in the Dinobots having another dream then waking up in a comic issue. My fanon is that The Beast Within is their final dream that finally pushes them into waking up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 10:25 AM)

As long as that means The Beast Within is still non-canon, I'm fine with it.

@  Locoman : (14 October 2017 - 09:29 AM)

When everything is canon, nothing is.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2017 - 09:25 AM)

The TF multiverse is an arbitrary concept. Whatever an author thinks, goes.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2017 - 05:59 AM)

Trypticon vs Deathsaurer. Make it happen!

@  tffan01 : (14 October 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Going by AVP, is Spider-Man and Zoids comic canon to the TF multiverse???

@  D Immortalis : (14 October 2017 - 12:37 AM)

stop that! we shall never speak of the "Embarassment", 'lest we be punished with more like it! =]

@  Pennpenn : (13 October 2017 - 08:23 PM)

Would the mutant heads have been on the headmasters or on the bodies (sort of like TR Galvatron's "helmet")?

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 08:05 PM)

Alternate reality: Beast Wars mutant heads really took off. Nearly every Transformers since '96 has featured them. The big complaint against the line-wide gimmick in TR isn't being headmasters, it's the lack of mutant heads.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Car TF molds get made all the time; bat TF molds don't. I feel like that justifies making a new Convobat from a mold configured highly unlike the original.

@  Bass X0 : (13 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

and yet Mindwipe is good enough to use as Convobat.

@  Shrug : (13 October 2017 - 03:19 PM)

I'm okay with that.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

Takara seems to have decided that the TR Chromedome mold is unsuitable for anyone else besides Chromedome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 03:07 PM)

*shrug* No 21st century (Macromaster) Nightbeat toy seems to have satisfied a decent number of people, from what I understand.

@  Locoman : (13 October 2017 - 02:57 PM)

You could probably finagle a pretty good Nightbeat body from TR Chromedome, or even a heavy retool of Cogman.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 October 2017 - 02:44 PM)

Nightbeat in particular. Hasbro seems to love him.


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Top 5 Decepticons who you would put on the Nemesis in a G1-remake/Ultimate G1?


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#261 Otaku

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:01 PM

So... what about a mass shifting Skorponok? It is completely over the top but some part of me really, really likes it. Whether he was a Headmaster or not, I have this hard time shedding the idea of starting with him not as a city bot but as a normal sized TF that eventually gained the mass-shifting technology to shrink, and then managed to successfully (at least for the short term) reverse the technology to increase his size (then he designs and adds a semi-mobile base a.k.a. "citybot"). This quickly turns the balance of power in his favor. I would have the epic climax where he pushes this technology so far, and something of course goes horribly wrong (also providing a reason why not everyone uses it). I was thinking of a triple whammy: the process requires huge amounts of energy consumption, creates a risk of being sucked into your own subspace pocket (or limbo between realities or some similar problem), and the combination of the two would warp the mind.

I'd bring him back as a Headmaster later... three times. You already knew there was something wrong with me. icon-arcee.gif First I'd have Skorponok return (and abandon his mass shifting technology due to what it did to him) and design his body as a double transtector. I'd try to keep the scorpion alt mode for all three pieces (this is how he adjusts his strategy - he can't mass shift, but you can't be certain what size version of him you're dealing with). When Skorponok is temporarily defeated, an ambitious Mo Zarak (I can't not use Mo!) alters himself with Cybertronian technology to a) become superhuman and b) make use of the rest of Skorponok... and would ultimately also fail and be captured. What begins as a rivalry in prison (not a normal prison, obviously) between the two becomes a bizarre friendship and they are the ones who realize that a war machine as potent as the Skorponok double transtector requires a team to control it (the difficulty of the task would probably be what caused both to fail in the past). Once they make good their escape the deal is struck. Mo abandons more of his humanity to become the small headmaster cyborg component, Skorponok remains in control of the "average Cybertronian" sized component of the unit, and the two together control the full sized citybot version, which I would then dub Dark Skorponok to make things easier to discuss.

Besides the two of them in control, I'd actually play this up as more of an unusual combiner: besides the human (or Nebulan) component, I thought to get a proper size Skorponok we need him to technically be a "combiner" anyway. Maybe I am wrong, but this way Hasbro can release several good sized Transformers that combine to make a citybot that is on par (or perhaps better) than what we've gotten in the past. The actual G1 Skorponok did have Fasttrack (not that he showed up in the cartoon and I have no clue about the comic book), so it isn't a completely random direction to take it.

Or maybe not. It's crazy, but I like it, so I thought I'd share it. The thread could use a good laugh.

Edited by Otaku, 23 January 2012 - 02:05 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:23 PM

The simple solution is to make Scorpinok normal sized, like the comic.

However, I think an Ultimate G1 should feature a host of "Warlords" on cybertron, featuring the badassed of leaders depicted in previous media - straxus, scorpy, Overlord, jhaxius, etc. Megatron's crew can then spend just as much time fighting THEM as the autobots do, whether he succeeds in taking them over or not depends upon the writing.

Decepticon politics is fun. We need more of it. and to have it be sensible, we need powerhouse 'cons who have a real shot at leading the 'cons.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Otaku @ Jan 22 2012, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Getting back to the main topic (even if the main topic isn't quite what MagmatronPrime intended), ^0^CORVUS^o^ I do like your ideas you've presented. I like mine better, but I have to be honest that yours is far more practical, and it is more practical because it uses a more proven structure than mine, which besides Starscream and "maybe" Bulkhead/Lugnut has no "A-listers", just B-Listers and some "who?" characters for many fans. XD

So you know what? Let's have some more fun discussing this.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 23 2012, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're a fan of transformers NOT because you got 2 toys in one. You're a fan because you followed a serious, fun, cartoon that dealt with some of the greatest social themes of the time in a responsible and fun way and introduced you to many science fiction concepts not unlike Star Trek did, leading you to support and embrace technologies like the internet.

You're telling us why we like things, now? You think you're some sort of mind-reader? And what the hell are these "themes" you talk of? You're saying as if these were th absolute core of everything TF instead of, well, heroic aliens come to earth and fight evil aliens.

You know what? Stop it.

There are 3 possibilities - (1) you like TF because you had them as children. I suspect you spend a lot of time on the Garbage Pail Kids forums as well. (2) you like TF because, as I say, the story was pretty good, or (2) you like TF for some other reason. I'm guessing it's a bad reason. Am I wrong? I don't really care. If you don't like TF for the story, I dont' want to talk to you anymore. How's that?

If you're afraid I'm reading your mind - don't be. When I spend several pages talking about the themes of value, and you spend all this time quoting me w/o paying attention to the themes? Yeah. That suggests something.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 23 2012, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are 3 possibilities - (1) you like TF because you had them as children. I suspect you spend a lot of time on the Garbage Pail Kids forums as well. (2) you like TF because, as I say, the story was pretty good, or (2) you like TF for some other reason. I'm guessing it's a bad reason. Am I wrong? I don't really care. If you don't like TF for the story, I dont' want to talk to you anymore. How's that?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ Jan 23 2012, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 23 2012, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are 3 possibilities - (1) you like TF because you had them as children. I suspect you spend a lot of time on the Garbage Pail Kids forums as well. (2) you like TF because, as I say, the story was pretty good, or (2) you like TF for some other reason. I'm guessing it's a bad reason. Am I wrong? I don't really care. If you don't like TF for the story, I dont' want to talk to you anymore. How's that?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE(Big Show @ Jan 23 2012, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(WorkbenchManiac @ Jan 23 2012, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 23 2012, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are 3 possibilities - (1) you like TF because you had them as children. I suspect you spend a lot of time on the Garbage Pail Kids forums as well. (2) you like TF because, as I say, the story was pretty good, or (2) you like TF for some other reason. I'm guessing it's a bad reason. Am I wrong? I don't really care. If you don't like TF for the story, I dont' want to talk to you anymore. How's that?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 07:03 PM

Magmatron will not be around to respond for the next two weeks so let's drop this whole thing and move on.
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#269 Otaku

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:02 PM

Can we actually discuss ideas on this thread that don't pertain to MagmatronPrime?

I think ^0^CORVUS^o^ and I are playing "nice", and at least somewhat on topic. Since the thread isn't being locked, I am assuming so, but I am also paranoid, so I am still asking.
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#270 Year Zero

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

I think we're good to go actually.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 06:24 PM

yeah the A-list names would be hard to do without (in some prominent area) in the story, since hasbro has a WHOLE PILE of money saying those names draw crowds... and they'd be absolutely no room for D-listers and beyond like Hauler or Deceptitran for the vast length of the relaunch.

Prime's writers did a good job given this mandate
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Prime, Arcee, Ratchet, Bumblebee... Ironhide on the way
Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream...

B

Bulkhead, Wheeljack, Brakedown, Cliffjumper : solid B list names


I'd love a series that dealt with E list and entirely new characters, but in all honesty for me that's always what Fanfic is for.
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#272 Otaku

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:43 AM

I understand what you mean Destron D-69. I really doubt I could get away with it, but I would hope that something close to my suggestions would work. I mean, my plans for Megatron and Optimus Prime would basically be to bookend the action on Earth with their responses on Cybertron. I know some prefer Cybertron's current status to be a mystery, though hey it still could. Nothing says Cybertron wasn't almost completely abandoned due to the resource crisis with almost every Cybertronian exiled...

...anyway, so yeah I was hoping to make most of the A-listers function as something akin to the Elite Guard, and hanging with Optimus Prime (for Autobots, Megatron of course for Decepticons). Plus every few episodes would just shift the focus a bit, instead having the Earth based teams book end that episode/story arc. I want some potential diversity but with enough connections younger or new viewers could avoid getting lost.

That sound impossible, or just risky? icon-arcee.gif

Oh, so as an example, Optimus Prime would be cruising around with a larger crew. Indeed I probably would alter the series so that whatever crashed on earth first wasn't the Ark... that would be what Prime was on. Stretching the original idea of the thread quite a bit, but oh well. After a few episodes (or story arcs) worrying about the lack of reinforcements, Optimus starts sending some of his own crew to earth to back up those already there. Namely one earth goes from "potential power source" to "potential colony world". Much good story material can be had with the reactions as some of those reinforcements arrive. Imagine Wheeljack or Perceptor hanging with Lander and Diver... since those two probably outrank them, and even Kup (who I had as leader of the Earth Team). I mean, keeping with their G1 personalities as depicted in the cartoon, you've got the crazy inventor and the inventor who drives you crazy! XD

If this was a successful series, I'd love to build to a televised movie event where all the various teams (or rather, exploration crews) finally met up and... since we are talking both sides, chaos breaks out. In the climax (as opposed to first 20 minutes) we see that mostly we are down to the various leader characters. There would be a little bit of a power struggle on both sides, but more so on the Decepticon side, but in the end we get a final, drag out battle between the top Autobots (even if that includes little of the Earth crew) and the top Cons (again, even if that means just one or two of the series regulars).

Then if that isn't the end of the series, it could be used for a G1 Season 3-esque change of the status quo... just done in a manner that is less risky and confusing than what actually happened.

Edited by Otaku, 26 January 2012 - 11:54 AM.

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