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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.


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#1 Ashley

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

There was recently a discussion in the Toku thread that turned to pen-and-paper roleplaying so I thought it might be worth turning it into a separate thread. Some points of discussion.

There is a new system called Legend that you can get here:
http://www.ruleofcool.com/
It is awesome. It has a very cool multiclassing system that let's you mix and match parts of classes. You could make a robotic pony jedi kamen rider with a motorcycle. Or a wizard with sneak attack. Or a barbarian ninja. You get the idea.


On the subject of mainline D&D, the Tome of Battle from 3.5. Opinions are apparently mixed on it, with people either thinking it's the fix that makes melee finally able to keep up with spellcasters or thinking it's the most broken thing ever. Personally, I go with the first. There's very little reason to play a normal D&D 3.5 fighter when you could play a cleric or druid. The cleric can buff himself up into a very good melee fighter (with spells like Divine Power, Greater Magic Weapon, Magic Vestment, Bear's Endurance, Bull's Strength, Divine Favor, and Shield of Faith) and still do standard spellcaster stuff like healing. And the druid can turn into a bear and eat people while also still being a great spellcaster. Tome of Battle helps dedicated melee stay ahead of those guys in melee combat.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

What's everyone's fav gaming system btw? Mine's Pathfinder. It's a pretty awesome system that allows for a lot of versitility in the d20 system. And now that I know about Legend's Vigilante track...I think I'm gonna try and homebrew my own Kamen Rider class for....something. Maybe even Pathfinder.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 06:28 PM

We have actually been playing a variation of FATE lately, but with White Wolf supposedly releasing new supplements for Old WoD, we may end up going back to it, but so far we are loving the narative flow of FATE.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:44 PM

I found a bunch of Wraith: the Oblivion pdfs in my PC, a leftover from my brother's incursion into roleplaying a few years ago, is it good?
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE(Pony of Merak @ Jan 5 2012, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found a bunch of Wraith: the Oblivion pdfs in my PC, a leftover from my brother's incursion into roleplaying a few years ago, is it good?



I was never a fan of Wraith itself, but the concept is solid, may just need some tweaking if you wanted to do a sort of home-brew style game. It's got some great ideas in it.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:52 PM

I found this, which is an overview of the "tracks" that make up Legend's class system. Being able to mix and match all of this stuff makes for an interesting game:

https://docs.google....amp;output=html

Switching subjects, something I've always wanted to try is a game of Paranoia with me using a tex-to-voice engine for the Computer.

Edited by Waspinator, 05 January 2012 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE(Dessl0ck @ Jan 5 2012, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Pony of Merak @ Jan 5 2012, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found a bunch of Wraith: the Oblivion pdfs in my PC, a leftover from my brother's incursion into roleplaying a few years ago, is it good?



I was never a fan of Wraith itself, but the concept is solid, may just need some tweaking if you wanted to do a sort of home-brew style game. It's got some great ideas in it.


the whole shadow thing seems quite complicated, but the little I've read looks as an interesting setting.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Ironbite @ Jan 5 2012, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's everyone's fav gaming system btw? Mine's Pathfinder. It's a pretty awesome system that allows for a lot of versitility in the d20 system. And now that I know about Legend's Vigilante track...I think I'm gonna try and homebrew my own Kamen Rider class for....something. Maybe even Pathfinder.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:20 PM

Play Legend. Do iiit. It's fantastic.


Of course, I'm biased, but!

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:52 PM

I play Pathfinder (used to play 3.5), Shadows (my wife's homebrew system based on Cyberpunk 2020 and the 'Classic' i.e. Old World of Darkness.), and we recently started playing Star Wars Saga. Love the system so far. I'm a huge star wars fan (E.U. up to Survivors Quest and the original movies) and have always wanted to play in the Star Wars Universe. My wife isn't as big a fan as me (she thinks Lucas is bat*&^% insane and has a huge problem with the Force's predestination stuff) and is kinda intimidated by the scope of it all, but she is giving running it a shot. The current games we are playing:

As I said, She's running Star Wars with me playing a Scout (named Tam Kaare who is force sensitive) from a mining colony on the edge of Republic Space near Hutt Controlled territory on the other side of Kessel from the Maw. It takes place 1000 YBY and the Republic is rebuilding after 'defeating' the Sith 'for the last time' (i.e. Darth Bane and the rule of two have just started). My 4 generations back grandfather on my mothers side was a Jedi that left the order and came to the colony with his pregnant wife to escape 'something'. Don't know what yet (trying to stay clear of Jedi stuff until wifey gets the hang of the system and gets over her problems with the setting). My character just reached his Majority and decided to leave the colony, so he signed on with a freighter/smuggler crew who landed at the colony after having been attacked by Hutts who wanted their 'cargo' (kids of influential Republic people) and helping them repair their ship.

The ship is captained by a Twilek warrior, with a crew consisting of a Bothan quartermaster, a sleazebag code-slicer nicknamed Grinner (he has a scar that gives him a permanent scowl), the Twilek warriors wife (a prized Twilek dancer that mostly stays in his quarters), a human female (I forgot her name) who's part Sith (the race) that ran away from her Master (and who's teaching me to control my Force 'signature' so to speak), and D3 our astromech/Utility droid (also known as Dumb Dumb), who somehow got the Wedding March hardwired into his processor and tends to respond with Dum, Dum, daDum to most inquires hence Dumb Dumb.

I'm also running a Pathfinder game for my wife. She is playing an Elven Sorceress who got shipwrecked in human lands headed to meet her betrothed (arranged marriage), and ended up being taken by slavers. She has since gotten free and is stuck in a land she doesn't understand where slavery is the norm and the ones with all the gold make the rules (sorta a cross between the lands of the Sultans and the Order's homeland in the Sword of Truth book Faith of the Fallen with the Tolnedran's from Eddings thrown in for extra spice and the Legion). The nobles of the country are lazy and fat, while their people live in misery or are enslaved. Her character just wants to find a ship and sail back to the Summer Ilse (homebrew world, the Elves live on a pair of large islands).

She's since bought a human slave named Lela, claimed a Drow slave (first son of the third house, enslaved by his own mother and forced to serve his sisters, hell on earth with a bow) after saving him during a Drow raid on the place they we staying, tried to free them both without success (drow tried to take her, Lela doesn't wanna be free), lost a companion, gained one (a blind thief), and is currently headed into the middle of a blood feud trying to find a ship. Oh and she just learned that the Drow have a constant supply of Elven slaves coming from the Summer Isle.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:02 PM

I've been playing 4th edition since it came out and I still love it for all its flaws. I've also dipped back into 2nd edition a bit recently. They're my two favorites.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:06 PM

I like 4e a lot, though most of my games tend to be in a mix of Pathfinder and 3.5, but I can't stand 2e. icon-fire.gif

I've been playing Legend and Star Wars SAGA recently. Going to run a 4e game soon, I think.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:07 PM

As I stated in our last thread for this topic, my system of choice is Savage Worlds - universal, simple enough to grasp quickly, yet with enough intricacies not to make it too basic. I use it to run my Deadlands game (which IS the current official system for it, anyway), and I wrote up a MechWarrior conversion for it.

We recently started using Pathfinder for a new Birthright (originally a DnD 2nd Edition) campaign, I like it.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:12 PM

Right now I want to see what they do for the adventure path for Legend. They just recently passed the mark for that and they're on their way to the campaign setting mark. Seems like they passed these marks faster than they expected, but I'm sure they'll get everything out eventually.

http://www.ruleofcool.com/?page_id=95

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:03 PM

I'm a life-long D6 fan because I find the whole idea of a class/level system is more trouble than it's worth. Just give me a good template, some guidelines to customize it, and turn me loose.

QUOTE(Rodimal @ Jan 5 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a huge star wars fan (E.U. up to Survivors Quest and the original movies) and have always wanted to play in the Star Wars Universe. My wife isn't as big a fan as me (she thinks Lucas is bat*&^% insane and has a huge problem with the Force's predestination stuff) and is kinda intimidated by the scope of it all, but she is giving running it a shot.

Ever sampled the old West-End Games version? It's pre-Prequels, so Force-users are treated as exceptions (no midichlorians, no prophecies, no social status for Force-users, practically no Jedi, and effectively only one Sith), and the whole system is practically built to be "pick up and play" (pretty much every sourcebook has a two-page primer that explains the entire process). It was my introduction to RPGs way back when.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:51 PM

WEG Star Wars > D20/Saga Star Wars. Plain and simple.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:37 AM

In a couple of games right now. I'm in a Pathfinder game where I'm a hafling summoner who rides around on a winged snake named Que(guess what that stands for). I'm in a Star Wars/Pathfinder mash-up game that's set in Episode 1 that we've already managed to derail all of Star Wars cannon. I play a Shistavaan soldier with a prefrence for violence. I'm in a game of Mage(OWoD) that I don't quite understand. And I'm in a World's Largest Dungeon where I play an elven cleric.

Ironbite-so there ya go...oh and I'm always looking for new games.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:19 AM

We've been playing a lot of Gamma World as of late, but since we're all a bit burnt out from the mini-campaigns, I'm trying to swing the group around to a new system. The last one we played was straight 4th Edition D&D. I'm pushing for Savage Worlds, probably for a Mass Effect campaign. In any case, I really want a break from 4th Edition, and something like Pathfinder/3.5 (Which I can't stand) wouldn't cut it.

Of course, there's the Dark Heresy campaign a friend is running that's currently on hiatus, so I could do something with that, but I'd rather run Deathwatch or Black Crusade. And I'm not paying ?30+ right now, and I know the rest of the group wouldn't.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:30 AM

As far as fantasy goes, I currently prefer either Fantasy Craft (my d20 variant of choice) or 4e (which is great, but didn't fit my needs so well since I had a 2-player group); I have played in a couple of Pathfinder campaigns and had fun, but I wouldn't actively seek it out and I'd certainly never GM it. I also really like Corporation, which is basically anti-cyberpunk - you play the genetically- and cybernetically-enhanced agents of the massive corporations that rule the world, and do things like corporate espionage and murder and all that good stuff.

I'm currently preparing to run a Pokemon campaign using Monsters and Other Childish Things, which I've really fallen in love with. The way you stat up monsters through the parts of their body that do things is really clever (even if it's not always perfect for Pokemon, since really simple stuff like Voltorb and Oddish don't work so well) and the One Roll Engine is such an elegant system. I do prefer M&OCT's version of it, though - I tried reading REIGN and my eyes sort of glazed over at all the options, though I'm sure I'll like it once I actually take some time to read it.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:00 AM

Given my schedule, I just play in a 4th ed game, though I'd love to jump back into a Shadowrun or a Vampire/Changeling game.

Regarding the Tome of Battle, while it does even the score in terms of melee to higher level caster, it gives you such good stuff at such earlier levels that casters are constantly playing catch up. Why go through the trouble of learning a mid level fireball spell when I can just assume a stance a light people on fire with my sword?

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