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@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.


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Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:01 AM




Okay, so this movie comes out in January for Americans, and it's already out in the UK and Australia.

Redline is a hyper-detailed hand-animated film by Studio Madhouse who did the thing as a big long project they've been working on for ages. Basically, it's the future and all across the galaxy civilizations compete in the Redline, a massive road race with no rules. Sweet JP, called as such because he doesn't use weapons, is a talented racer who is involved with the mafia and race-fixing, however due to the Redline's location being set as the backwards North Korea-like planet of Roboworld and several racers dropping out, he manages to qualify for the Redline.

The animation is fantastic and the story is pretty tight, and it has a fantastic soundtrack. And the english dub is pretty great too:




Seriously enjoyable film, pick it up if you get a chance.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:08 AM

I thought Redline was this "The Fast And The Furious with exotic cars instead of imports" knockoff starring Eddie Griffin.

Truth be told, I'd rather see the Eddie Griffin movie than this, though.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 03:10 AM

It was a great movie. very awesome animation and designs

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 08:39 AM

My brother showed me this yesterday. The animation and art looks great. I'll be watching it at some point (and I only watch 1 or 2 anime a year these days).

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 10:19 AM

Coulda swore this was about a 10 year old PC game...

Still, gonna look into this (rather, again as I already asked some questions about this a while ago.)

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:17 AM

Whoah. Shades of "Heavy Metal", or at least that's the vibe I got when I saw all the aliens. I might have to go for this one (it'd be the first non-Ghibli anime I've bought since The Guyver remake ended).

Still, Madhouse has been disappointing me recently. "Paprika" was a massive let-down and I didn't care for it in the slightest. Their Batman anime segments were really, "meh". And those Marvel anime shows... Good Lord.

And didn't "Redline" catastrophically bomb in Japanese theaters or something?

That preview looked really good, though...

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:21 AM

It did pretty poorly in Japan, yeah. They didn't dig the gritty style and weirdo alien designs. It's not normal anime styles, the closest to that would be the green-haired girl in the video, everything else just gets weirder from there.

As to the plot, Spengler, it's pretty westernized I thought. The writing and stuff wouldn't feel out of place in a summer blockbuster. And even if you don't like the story it's still very pretty. It's like, one of those good dubs where they manage to dance around the awkward parts and make it flow well, almost enough to sound natural.

Edited by Hora Hora, 25 December 2011 - 11:26 AM.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(Hora Hora @ Dec 25 2011, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It did pretty poorly in Japan, yeah. They didn't dig the gritty style and weirdo alien designs. It's not normal anime styles, the closest to that would be the green-haired girl in the video, everything else just gets weirder from there.

As to the plot, Spengler, it's pretty westernized I thought. The writing and stuff wouldn't feel out of place in a summer blockbuster. And even if you don't like the story it's still very pretty.


Yeah, just watching the trailer, it definately looked like a "written in America, animated in Japan" sort of dealie even if it was all-Japanese.

A shame it bombed in its homeland just because it went with unorthodox character designs and artstyle. The lack of visual and storytelling variety is one of the reasons I watch so little Japanese animation these days.

I think I'll pick it up. The reason I didn't dig "Paprika" was that it was one of those "trying too hard to be cerebral" anime flicks and I didn't care for the squeaky-voiced lead female. This looks to just be straight-up action and eyecandy, which sounds more appealing. As for their Marvel stuff, I disliked it because I can't get past the "move the camera as much as possible so we never have to animate the characters" money-saving direction that Japanese productions use so much (it made a second viewing of The Guyver almost agonizing for me, and I liked that show the first time through). But this is a big budget feature film, so it won't have that problem.

I'll check it out.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:30 AM

The perspecives are so forced it's hurtful.

Did the animators drop acid before working?

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:36 AM

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A shame it bombed in its homeland just because it went with unorthodox character designs and artstyle. The lack of visual and storytelling variety is one of the reasons I watch so little Japanese animation these days.


It's funny how Tiger and Bunny did so well though, considering all the tropes the Japanese audience normally likes.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:51 AM

This one been on my radar for awile I expected it state side a little sooner then now

Though it just makes me want Cyberfomula GPX stuff even more

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

I caught a fansub of this a while ago and I'm eagerly anticipating the official US release so I can buy it on bluray.

I pitched it to a friend as " FLCL and F-Zero have a bastard son with JetSet Radio music". After watching all he had to say was "Why do I feel awesome"

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:58 PM

Hey, just picked this up on blu ray.

Absolutely freakin' loved it.

This was a better Heavy Metal movie than either Heavy Metal movie. I can't believe this thing bombed in Japan; it was brilliant looking and just so much intense, carefree fun. The English dub was superb. Normally, I'd be annoyed by some of the gratuitous swearing they inserted, but some of it was really funny (particularly the announcer) and, well, I went into this pretending it was a Heavy Metal movie that that suits it just fine.

Madhouse's crazy use of perspective and shadow made this one of the most visually interesting animated films I've ever seen; it really deserves more recognition than as a straight-to-DVD foreign film. I be this thing was an absolute blast in theaters. It was also nice to see Madhouse deviate a bit from their Kawajiri-based house style for much of the character designs. It's not a style I particularly dislike, but variety is the spice of life, guys.

Lynchman and Johnnyboya were my favorite of the competing racers just because they were like if the Noid was a bounty-hunting supervillain and his sidekick was a karate-chopping Beavis.


Just a really, really cool movie.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:12 PM

Glad you liked it

Im glad I own the movie myself its just diffrant enough to be fun
The main end credit song Redline Day is awsome

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:46 PM

Force Chip... Ignition?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:58 PM

Saw this a few weeks ago. Distilled, liquid manliness. Wacky Races meets Death Race? Try "Wacky Races meets a big pile of crack."

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

Is that the Burton Batmobile in the trailer?

Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to look into it.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:08 AM

Yeah I saw this the week of its release, I really enjoyed it simply for the designs, animation, and craziness of it all.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:05 PM

Watched It last night and really enjoyed it.
It would be damn cool if somone made models of the vehicles, that would be such a big case of "Shut up and take my money!".

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:06 PM

Just picked up Redline and watched it multiple times and I really loved it.

It's amazing to hear that this film took 7 years to make with it being drawn entirely by hand, something that Anime does not do very much of any more sadly due to the current use of digital technology. Watching this movie really did in some way or another feel like a giant throwback to alot of Anime from the 80's & 90's that was viewed as another form of art being taken to the next level, with this in terms of animation and design this film is a masterpiece in more ways than one, yet it tanked at the box office due Anime now only appealing to the lowest common denominator if it features a tentacle, or some form of harem gibberish.

That's kind of sad when people don't know a true work of art when they see it, this really deserves the critical praise and love than what is currently going on right now with Anime.

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