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@  MEDdMI : (23 July 2017 - 09:46 AM)

And dealing with me.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2017 - 08:47 AM)

Don't forget the rock music and D&D.

@  unluckiness : (23 July 2017 - 07:52 AM)

He certainly doesn't have the time to be employed full-time what with all the war-stoking, dinosaur fossil burying, pornographing and etc

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 July 2017 - 06:44 AM)

Look, I'm TRYING, okay?

@  Bass X0 : (23 July 2017 - 06:40 AM)

The devil is a part-timer!

@  Nevermore : (23 July 2017 - 06:32 AM)

I always took it to be a catch-all term for "person or thing of the same name" regardless of which came first.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 July 2017 - 10:06 PM)

So technically it could be either way and not be wrong, but it is more apt to be Kalidor's example.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 July 2017 - 10:05 PM)

one that has the same name as another; especially : one who is named after another or for whom another is named

@  Kalidor : (22 July 2017 - 09:45 PM)

I think the official meaning is that a namesake is the person or thing that is named after something else. So the USS Kalidor would be Kalidor's namesake

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 08:30 PM)

I thought it was either?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2017 - 08:27 PM)

It is very irritating that no one seems to agree on whether the word "namesake" refers to the thing that came first or the thing that came second.

@  2017 : (22 July 2017 - 07:19 PM)

I'd like it, but I really don't have the cash or the justification.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Anyone still need a Chaos on Velocitron set? Found one at TRU today...

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 July 2017 - 01:27 PM)

He REALLY likes blowing stuff up.

@  Dekafox : (22 July 2017 - 12:42 PM)

G1 Scattershot's 3rd mode gimmick?

@  MEDdMI : (22 July 2017 - 12:04 PM)

Nothing can be more awkward than the crotch rubsigns.

@  Bass X0 : (22 July 2017 - 11:28 AM)

well, they had to go somewhere.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 02:54 AM)

TR Quake's shoulder symbols are very awkward looking

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

..er myself.

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

NOT RESPONDING

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

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@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

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@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

Couldn't say it bett.....

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 July 2017 - 10:33 PM)

You just don't appreciate the speed of a solid state drive until you have to use an old laptop with an old spinning drive

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 July 2017 - 08:32 PM)

If there's at least one, you can army-build.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 July 2017 - 07:25 PM)

Are there even enough toys of him to collect?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2017 - 04:21 PM)

A nerd.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Speaking of, what do you call someone who collects toys of the Marvel character The Collector?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:18 PM)

What about people who collect the "Die Hard" movies?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2017 - 03:54 PM)

A lot of the die hard collectors don't need to be louder...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 July 2017 - 03:22 PM)

@Nevermore Benbot means "amped" as in excited. I believe the term is shorthand for (a sound) amplifier.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Or is "shorthand" a synonym for "amputated"?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Is "amped" shorthand for "amputated"?

@  Benbot : (21 July 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I am amped! But I also have standards.

@  Fear or Courage : (21 July 2017 - 08:38 AM)

I consider Thew to basically be the model toy collector. We should all aim to be so amped about the thing we collect.

@  Pennpenn : (21 July 2017 - 07:21 AM)

And some people are just whiny jerks who like to complain about stuff and don't realise that, so will invent irrational grievances to fuel that need.

@  Rycochet : (21 July 2017 - 06:13 AM)

A lot of toy collectors don't seem to get that the things the collect are toys.and have unrealistic expectations of what's doable in a modern retail environment. You're not going to get a $100 figure's worth of parts and paint for $20 or less and gimmicks are needed tomake the toys actually, you know, fun.

@  Foffy : (20 July 2017 - 09:40 PM)

Not necessarily. With the right condiments, they can taste surprisingly nice.

@  Evac : (20 July 2017 - 09:37 PM)

I think most toy collectors are bitter in some form.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:37 PM)

...or maybe I'm the bitter one?!  Oh no.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:32 PM)

And I don't even mean that everyone should love it all. But it does seem to bring the angrier ones in from the lurking.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:29 PM)

It's these reveals that always remind me how exceptionally bitter a large portion of toy collectors are on other forums.

@  Sean Whitmore : (20 July 2017 - 07:06 PM)

SDCC toy reveals make adults happy by telling them what they can get eventually. Kids don't care what they can get eventually, you make them happy by getting them whatever's available now.

@  Jalaguy : (20 July 2017 - 06:10 PM)

They exist, they just don't show them at SDCC because they assume that the adult fanbase doesn't care about them.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 06:03 PM)

On SDCC stuff...I'm disappointed, but not surprised, at the lack of the actual KIDS toys among all the toys for us old men

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:15 PM)

:burn

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:15 PM)

SSA response? "How would we know to un enroll you if you don't tell us?"

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:14 PM)

I'm supposed to un-enrolled in Medicare at the end of the month (36 months post-transplant), but I'm getting a bill for next quarter's coverage.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:14 PM)

I would LOVE to have ONE THING done correctly and promptly by the Social Security Administration

@  Ms Virion : (20 July 2017 - 02:22 PM)

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There hasn't really ever been a truly good tetrajet toy, has there?


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#1 gargunkle

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 06:59 PM

I was reading the Seekers article at the wiki and I came across this classic image:

http://tfwiki.net/wi...jet_seekers.jpg

This got me thinking... has there ever been a really good interpretation of this design in toy form? The main ones that come to mind are the Titanium and the Cybertron mold (which seems to be basically the same thing between Supreme/Voyager/Legends size). I don't have any of these. Are any of them good? Are there any others?

The look of the tetrajet in the G1 cartoon was just so slick.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:02 PM

I like the Titanium version aesthetically better than the Cybertron mold. That being said, I don't think a true Tetrajet is really possible without lots of finnicky panel kibble at any rate. Plus, it'd be even more difficult to make a real G1 Tetrajet since they'd still have bot modes with F-15 parts. icon-fire.gif

That being said, we've been surprised before - maybe some third party maker will get there.
 
 
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:04 PM

nope there aren't any others... and no there hasn't been another non-cybertron/titanium design

the problem being that according to G1 the tetrajets transform into robots that look like they turn into F15s

so there's obvious toy-design problems.

arg - Dake types faster than me

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:30 PM

Types better, too!

Maybe there'll be another one if they do a WfC Starscream for the next game.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:34 PM

and isn't even a jerk about it... guess he's got us both beat C16 icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Dec 18 2011, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Types better, too!

Maybe there'll be another one if they do a WfC Starscream for the next game.



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and isn't even a jerk about it... guess he's got us both beat C16 icon-arcee.gif


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I'd be surprised if we didn't get a FoC jet this go around, but they look more like the old Cybertron toys too really. Personally, I'd sacrifice the G1 bot mode details to get a well-done Tetrajet. I'd be ok if they just got it relatively close in robot mode.
 
 
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:25 PM

Honestly I was forgetting somewhat that the robot mode was still the F15. But yes I'd settle for a good bot mode (not having to be slavish to the F15 bot mode) and a great tetrajet.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:30 PM

Good find, guys. I'm sure C16 is going to go home and rethink his life now.

Hoping for a Fall of Cybertron Starscream toy here. It's a neat enough design that will satisfy any desire I have for Tetrajets, and it's an easy boost for a WFC/FOC display.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:48 PM

It's not really impossible... in fact the Luke Skywalker Snowspeeder toy I have sort of has the basic mental "this is how it would transform" concept, as I see it in my head.

But the Titanium and Cybertron toys wanted to be evocative of the Tetra jets, not actually them, and they're medicore (Ti) to awful (Cybertron).

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:01 PM

I know we'd dearly love transformable versions, I got that. However, I'm pretty satisfied with crazysteve's customs. http://pleasesavemer...modes/jets.html I have Sunstorm and one of the Skywarps, and in my opinion, Esteban is entirely too hard on himself as regards those initial offerings.

(Pretty nice when displayed in an HOC/SCF collection.)
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(C16 @ Dec 18 2011, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Types better, too!

Maybe there'll be another one if they do a WfC Starscream for the next game.



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and isn't even a jerk about it... guess he's got us both beat C16 icon-arcee.gif


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I'd be surprised if we didn't get a FoC jet this go around, but they look more like the old Cybertron toys too really. Personally, I'd sacrifice the G1 bot mode details to get a well-done Tetrajet. I'd be ok if they just got it relatively close in robot mode.


Yeah, I'm really surprised we didn't get it last time, but they can't pass it up for long. Because they made a decision in 1984 that's made a goldmine for them. Repaints of a lot of molds get a "yeah, yeah, boring repaint" response. But if they don't make 2 repaints of a seeker mold, "They're bums, I tell ya. Bums"

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:22 PM

I guess I don't have Cybertron Starscream. I have Shattered Glass Starscream.

Really, I thought the Titanium was good enough. I'm not really nostalgic about Sunbow tetrajets, I guess. That doesn't really sound like me, but there you go. The Titanium ones are really War Within, right?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:25 PM

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I actually like the Cybertron mold... it's more evocative of War Within than G1, but I still like it, and really wish there had been official releases in the various seeker colors...

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE(Nebucron @ Dec 18 2011, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I actually like the Cybertron mold... it's more evocative of War Within than G1, but I still like it, and really wish there had been official releases in the various seeker colors...


I love the Cybertron mold, but would still love to see an actual well done Sunbow tetrajet. I agree that the robot mode doesn't need to look like the F-15 seekers, though, just a decent robot.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:08 PM

I'd love to get a proper tetrajet. The War Within design is nice in that it doesn't have the silly F-15 details in robot mode, but all of War Within leans a little too far toward technogreeblies and away from the sleekness I liked in the old Sunbow designs. Of the two vaguely tetrajet molds we have, the Titanium is a far more attractive jet while the Cybertron toy is an overall better mold.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:21 PM

We talking about the same Scouts-have-have-better-arm-joints partially-exposed-head wider-than-he-is-tall Cybertron mold?

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:54 PM

sounds that way lol

I love Universe Dirge as a Cybertron jet... looks AWESOME ..I'm honest with myself that the mold has its share of problems... but it looks Great, and transforms like a breeze... flip, flip, joint, joint, tabs DONE.

- and on a side note, I hope C16 doesn't change his ways. icon-hotrod.gif I like the guy, keeps me on my toes. I respect that.
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:27 AM

I don't know, this thread has really been an eye opener for me. If only other people could take suggestions as easily!

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Dec 18 2011, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly I was forgetting somewhat that the robot mode was still the F15. But yes I'd settle for a good bot mode (not having to be slavish to the F15 bot mode) and a great tetrajet.


Considering the intent of having a pre-Cybertron mode which would naturally affect the robot mode, it makes perfect sense that if we every get a true tetrajet toy that the robot mode wouldn't be the same as the Earth robot mode. I'd love to see what someone comes up with. They only design elements I would want to keep in the robot mode are the chest canopy and the shoulder wings. Everything else can be whatever it takes to get the tetrajet.

For that matter I'd like to get Jazz, Wheeljack, and Bumblee too. But then, I still foolishly hope to finally get an accurate G1 Skyfire. Seems it's mostly a modified Robotech Valkyrie with a few transformational changes.

Edited by Magick, 19 December 2011 - 12:47 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE(Nebucron @ Dec 18 2011, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I actually like the Cybertron mold... it's more evocative of War Within than G1, but I still like it, and really wish there had been official releases in the various seeker colors...


I'm with you. I love the Cybertron seeker mold and wish they'd finally release the voyager mold in the US beyond the TRU exclusive. I hate that I didn't get that box set. We got the Legends size and the Surpeme size. It still amazes me and disappoints me that we never got a retail release of the voyager mold.
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