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@  B-Fox : (16 January 2018 - 01:33 PM)

metalhawk

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 01:21 PM)

I love RotF Mixmaster, if that means anything.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 January 2018 - 12:42 PM)

Ehh.. when they get to complicated.. it gets annoying. PotP Optimus is decent. Rodimus pushes it just a little.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:32 PM)

Part of the appeal of Transformers for me has always been the mechanical puzzle angle, so I really enjoyed the ROTF/TF2010 line when that angle hit its zenith.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:31 PM)

I'm probably one of the few people who really enjoys complicated, fiddly transformations.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

Some were decent, but many suffered from that "collector mentality" where it just LOOKED good in both modes...but the engineering was complex merely for the sake of it.

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 10:30 AM)

Huh. That's dissapointing. I had completely missed the Alternators and had just always assumed they were good based on how they looked in photos.

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2018 - 03:34 AM)

I liked the Alternator Tracks mold. I think everyone agrees the Grimjack mold was just kinda shit even if you didn't care about it being Grimlock as a car.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:16 PM)

My local dept. store Shopko always seemed to get a few late run gems, like Blast Attack Optimus Primal and hard to find collection 2 Revenge of the Sith toys.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:15 PM)

Still wish I had snagged that extra Swerve I saw on clearance at Shopko, though

@  RichardT1977 : (15 January 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Smokescreen was the only Alternator I ever got.

@  Telly : (15 January 2018 - 07:24 PM)

i sold all my alternators last year

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 January 2018 - 05:27 PM)

Hound isn't bad, and, uh........

@  Paladin : (15 January 2018 - 05:23 PM)

there's only like 3 Alternator molds at most that still hold up...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2018 - 01:09 PM)

There were no shelfwarmer Altenators where I lived.. Cause no one ever got them in. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (15 January 2018 - 12:57 PM)

I have Alternators Nemesis Prime since he was a shelf warmer here.

@  unluckiness : (15 January 2018 - 10:07 AM)

You wouldn't want to anyway

@  Chromedome113 : (15 January 2018 - 07:21 AM)

My first Prime was Alternators Optimus, I still can't transform him

@  Shrug : (14 January 2018 - 06:42 PM)

Ah. I'll try to remember that, but I keep forgetting "Gobots" the Autobot even existed.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"Gobots" is the G2 Autobot Color Changer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:01 PM)

@Shrug That would be "Go-Bots".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 January 2018 - 03:16 AM)

At least you still had a big beefy super robot with giant guns.

@  JasperGunner... : (14 January 2018 - 01:47 AM)

My first Prime was Cybertron Prime. I was too stupid to know how to transform him lol

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:15 PM)

My first Prime was Transmetal Primal. Second was RID Prime. My first Megatron was actually Gobots Megatron. I just didn't know he was Megatron for like 15 years. I often used him as "Roller" for RID Prime and I assume he's never really forgiven me.

@  Telly : (13 January 2018 - 10:39 PM)

my first prime was g1 prime actually in 1984. saw him at a store and begged my grandparents to give me my christmas money early lol

@  unitremover : (13 January 2018 - 10:33 PM)

Mine was Beast Machines deluxe Primal but I don't think I knew he what he was at the time.

@  Dekafox : (13 January 2018 - 09:32 PM)

My first Prime was actually LioConvoy... followed by Fire Convoy

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:57 AM)

@Telly, but G1 Rodimus's vehicle mode is so durn sexy

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:30 AM)

PMOP was my second, and my first Optimus.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 04:29 AM)

My first Prime was Power Master Prime.. And though Titans Return had Power Master Prime.. Power of the Primes feels more like Power Master Prime to me.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

Still wanted Hot Rod too, though.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

I had Rodimus Prime as a kid, he was the first Prime I owned, and I loved 'im.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 12:27 AM)

At least he doesn't feel like he's about to fall apart in my hands like Masterpiece did.

@  Otaku : (12 January 2018 - 11:50 PM)

As a kid, I remember being confused that Rodimus Prime and Hot Rod had separate action figures. I thought there should be one that you could change between the "two".

@  Telly : (12 January 2018 - 10:59 PM)

'86 rodimus prime was a joke, even by '86 standards. it BARELY qualified as a transformer and his face was terrible

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

He's leaps and bounds above the original 1986 Rodimus Prime, it's unbelievable. That's more of a criticism to 1986 Rodimus Prime's simplicity though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:14 PM)

Rodimus is insainly complicated at first though.

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 03:07 PM)

I like to imagine that Orion Pax has his own Cybertronian vehicle mode even though the toy doesn't have it. It would be Orion Pax evolving into Optimus Prime, but Optimus Prime cannot turn back into Orion Pax (even though the toy obviously can).

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:05 PM)

Orion Pax? Only into Prime's truck mode.

@  Locoman : (12 January 2018 - 02:22 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Dekafox : (12 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

You mean: *var mode

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 January 2018 - 01:50 PM)

*Sorry to be that guy, but *vehicle.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 01:11 PM)

I love the leaders.. Just complicated! I am semi disapointed that they didn't somehow get Orions vehical mode in there though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:48 AM)

Possibly. Cause I didn't know how to transform his legs and was pulling the poor guy every whichaway

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 11:44 AM)

Maybe paladin just got the last one built on friday?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:42 AM)

Dunno about that... He seems pretty damn stable with as much as I was pulling and twisting.

@  Paladin : (12 January 2018 - 11:35 AM)

apparently he breaks easily. my interest has all but worn off.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:17 AM)

Rodimus is more complicated than I thought.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 10:57 AM)

I know I said PotP was Power Masters... But Prime -really- is very much desinged like the original PM Prime

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 10:46 AM)

And BBTS finally shipped mine! Will be another two weeks till they get here, but still! At least some good news today.


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TF Prime deluxes up to 16.99 on tru.com...


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#1 gargunkle

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:22 AM

Just had to boggle a bit at this.


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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:46 AM

FTP!

That's $1.00USD more than I paid for my Arcee on Thursday, and I pay the "stoopid tourist" tax that TRU adds to certain things at the Times Square (and their stores in NYC's 5 boroughs) store.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 08:16 AM

Dear lord, that's nearly half of what us Europeans have to pay for Deluxes these days!

Edited by Nevermore, 18 December 2011 - 08:16 AM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 08:19 AM

Nevermore, I can always count on you to make the price bitching I'm going to do seem redundant icon-hotrod.gif

actually My tru's been sale crazy lately... I don't think I've spent $100.00 and have everything
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 08:25 AM

Somebody finally told them they were exclusives.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 08:35 AM

Yeah. I thought they were too expensive at $14, nevermind $17.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 09:13 AM

TRU is on the ball when it comes to marking up items they get in first. You should see their prices on the new Batman Lego sets...

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:12 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Dec 18 2011, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nevermore, I can always count on you to make the price bitching I'm going to do seem redundant icon-hotrod.gif

actually My tru's been sale crazy lately... I don't think I've spent $100.00 and have everything


It's a fair comment though. US fans can moan about prices going up, but the prices they pay are still absolute bargains compared to what the rest of the world pay for Transformers. Count yourself lucky!

For the record, last I was in Tescos, deluxes were ?15, which is $23, so you guys are still better off by miles!

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:53 AM

What's the comparative cost of living though? (Not that I know)
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:10 AM

QUOTE(Blueshift @ Dec 18 2011, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Dec 18 2011, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nevermore, I can always count on you to make the price bitching I'm going to do seem redundant icon-hotrod.gif

actually My tru's been sale crazy lately... I don't think I've spent $100.00 and have everything


It's a fair comment though. US fans can moan about prices going up, but the prices they pay are still absolute bargains compared to what the rest of the world pay for Transformers. Count yourself lucky!

For the record, last I was in Tescos, deluxes were ?15, which is $23, so you guys are still better off by miles!

No, you need to recognize how unlucky you are, instead of pretending you're the baseline that everywhere else should be compared against. Transformers prices in Europe are absurd (I've heard it's actually cheaper to import from Japan, and Japan's prices are already considerably higher than America's.), and do not automatically justify any price anywhere that is less absurd.

And in any case this is a thread about one store's selective price gouging on "exclusives" and things that people want more, not general complaining about prices in general going up.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE(NovaSaber @ Dec 18 2011, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, you need to recognize how unlucky you are, instead of pretending you're the baseline that everywhere else should be compared against.


But... we're the majority. Transformers are more expensive pretty much everywhere in the world outside of North America.

Edited by Chris McFeely, 18 December 2011 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2011 - 12:41 PM

Am I alone in thinking that the deluxe Prime figures aren't worth those prices? Price gouging aside, there comes a point where the money charged ceases to equate to the figure it purchases.


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Posted 18 December 2011 - 12:46 PM

I wouldn't mind a high price like that every now and then, but if I was planning to pick up the entire First Edition wave at that price, I'd definitely hesitate. I don't think a price bump like $10 going up to $12.99 is insane because you are still getting a pretty good value for a deluxe-sized Transformer at that price, but creeping up toward $20 gets to be a bit much.

And yeah, the USA might be the main market for Hasbro stuff, which gets us lower prices, but our minimum wage and job market here are really bad compared to the cost of living.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 12:56 PM

Our minimum wage that just went up?


Anyway, I'm glad I found the first 3 of these before they went up to this new price. Guess I'll wait for HTS to get CJ and also have something else I want to justify the shipping (because I'm certain the the free shipping will go away just a few days before CJ gets listed).

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 01:03 PM

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Our minimum wage that just went up?


Cool dismissive tone, bro. It's $7.25 an hour here in Indiana, so you're probably looking at going up to around $7.50 if the other 2012 increases I'm looking at are a good indication. Doesn't really do much of anything to change the issue of cost of living versus wages. If it's not an issue for you personally, good for you. icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by Jeremy, 18 December 2011 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 01:34 PM

Oh yes, the minimum wage that's going to single-handedly save our economy. It's definitely worth pointing out!

And mentioning that fact that customers outside of the US have always payed a ridiculous amount for toys doesn't make a price increase on our side acceptable.

Edited by C16, 18 December 2011 - 01:56 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2011 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE(Chris McFeely @ Dec 18 2011, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NovaSaber @ Dec 18 2011, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, you need to recognize how unlucky you are, instead of pretending you're the baseline that everywhere else should be compared against.


But... we're the majority. Transformers are more expensive pretty much everywhere in the world outside of North America.

I think more are sold in North America than the rest of the world combined, though.
But aside from that, so what? "Majority" and "baseline" don't necessarily have to be the same thing anyway; when it comes to prices, it seems to me that there are two reasonable options:

1. use the MSRP in the relavent market (this means you can't compare prices in different markets at all)
2. use the lowest MSRP in any sizable market (because clearly this price is still profitable; it may not be practical to use that exact price in every market, but prices in many places are clearly higher by a much larger margin than any differences between markets would justify; this means the rest of the world still doesn't have much to do with what prices should be considered reasonable in America)

The US MSRP or Prime Deluxes is, IIRC, $12.99. A store charging 30% more than the MSRP just because something is unofficially exclusive is price gouging, even if the price is still lower in absolute terms than in some other countries.


If you want to complain about how high the prices are in your country, go right ahead; I agree with you that they are, and it's even possible that being more vocal about prices is a (small) factor in why ours are lower. What I object too is the idea that the prices being too high there somehow makes the highest prices here "a bargain".

Edited by NovaSaber, 18 December 2011 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

Saw a ton of these guys at TRU today in Rockaway, NJ, priced at 13.99. Probably 3 cases worth.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

Back when Classics (1.0) was on shelves, TRU was charging ~$13 while all the other stores were charging ~$10. I bought none at TRU. Won't stand for it.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 04:55 PM

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Back when Classics (1.0) was on shelves, TRU was charging ~$13 while all the other stores were charging ~$10. I bought none at TRU. Won't stand for it.


Not really an option with this line, unfortunately.

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